Hi Fran,
I don't understand much about menopause, except that there are signs and symptoms, and ways to manage them. The hormone cycle is on my list of complicated things to understand - so any simplified explanations and examples are welcome. What I understand you to be saying is that an excess of the hormones responsible for provoking ovulation are what causes Hot Flushes - so Lutenising Hormone and Follicle Stimulating Hormone.
The holidays seem to be associated with a hormone cycle shift that was otherwise stuck in whatever mode causes the hot flushing. Both then and now she has a period instead of hot flushes.
Processing the trauma/adding St John's Wort provided the same shift so that her cycle has been re-established. I'll check on whether there is any suggestion of the flushes still happening as part of the cycle.
Thanks,
Gail.
Re: [Minutus] Re: Hot Flushes
On a quick reading it sounds as though the holidays had nothing to do with flushes ceasing but the return of the period did.
Hot flushes (though inappropriate) are all about trying to get the ovary to develop and release an egg when it is too tired and old to bother. Once ovulation occurs, the hot flushing will disappear or significantly reduce, only to return following the period as the body once again tries to squeeze one more egg out of an ovary.
Do you think this is what is happening?
Gail wrote:
Hot Flushes
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Fran Sheffield
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Re: Hot Flushes
Hi Gail,
Nobody is able to fully explain how hormones influence hot flushes - hence my odd description of what seems to be happening.
What seems to be the pattern for many perimenopausal women, is that flushing will gradually intensify, peaking at ovulation. If ovulation takes place, the flushes reduce or disappear - whatever was driving the flushes has achieved its objective.
If ovulation does not take place immedialtely, the flushing continues at heightened intensity for a variable period of time trying to force it to happen until the body seems give up as if exhausted. After "catching its breath" the buildup will start again as the body has another try for ovulation. This is my way of understanding it.
Sometimes the hormonal cycle is re-established for a period of time in which there will be no flushing. In your patient's case, this may have been triggered by the kinesiology and other things or it may just have been a normal part of early menopause - it is a common experience of many women as their menstrual cycle becomes less regular - they will experience a few months of normal periods interspersed by no periods but with the flushing.
Gail wrote:
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Kind regards,
Fran Sheffield
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Nobody is able to fully explain how hormones influence hot flushes - hence my odd description of what seems to be happening.
What seems to be the pattern for many perimenopausal women, is that flushing will gradually intensify, peaking at ovulation. If ovulation takes place, the flushes reduce or disappear - whatever was driving the flushes has achieved its objective.
If ovulation does not take place immedialtely, the flushing continues at heightened intensity for a variable period of time trying to force it to happen until the body seems give up as if exhausted. After "catching its breath" the buildup will start again as the body has another try for ovulation. This is my way of understanding it.
Sometimes the hormonal cycle is re-established for a period of time in which there will be no flushing. In your patient's case, this may have been triggered by the kinesiology and other things or it may just have been a normal part of early menopause - it is a common experience of many women as their menstrual cycle becomes less regular - they will experience a few months of normal periods interspersed by no periods but with the flushing.
Gail wrote:
--
Kind regards,
Fran Sheffield
Homeopathy Plus! (Information - Education - Treatment)
http://www.homeopathyplus.com.au
Do No Harm Initiative (Homeopathic Immunisation)
http://www.d-n-h.org
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Re: Hot Flushes
Hi Gail,
as to St. John's Worth:
In Germany it (Hypericum) is a very popular and apparently effective
herbal treatment for nervous complaints.
Regards
Luise
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as to St. John's Worth:
In Germany it (Hypericum) is a very popular and apparently effective
herbal treatment for nervous complaints.
Regards
Luise
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One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Re: Hot Flushes
My vote would go with the "addressed ... a traumatic issue which ...
coincide[d] with the onset of the menopausal flushes..."! If the
effect is from the herb, tho, I'd expect the situation to return, once
she stops taking the herb. Unless there's a solid homeopathic
correspondence, I would not expect short-term use of an herb--even so
nice a one as St. John's Wort--to cause that big and quick of a change;
whereas you'd definitely expect that big and quick a change from
addressing a traumatic issue.
Cheers,
Shannon
coincide[d] with the onset of the menopausal flushes..."! If the
effect is from the herb, tho, I'd expect the situation to return, once
she stops taking the herb. Unless there's a solid homeopathic
correspondence, I would not expect short-term use of an herb--even so
nice a one as St. John's Wort--to cause that big and quick of a change;
whereas you'd definitely expect that big and quick a change from
addressing a traumatic issue.
Cheers,
Shannon
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Re: Hot Flushes
Suggestion:
Do read Dr Christiane Northrup's book "The Wisdom of Menopause".
It's excellent.
Also - best hot flash TIP - QUIT THE SUGAR - IT WILL CAUSE THEM.
Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Do read Dr Christiane Northrup's book "The Wisdom of Menopause".
It's excellent.
Also - best hot flash TIP - QUIT THE SUGAR - IT WILL CAUSE THEM.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Re: Hot Flushes
Hi Luise,
Yes St John's Wort is very popular in Australia for depression and
anxiety. It's also used as an antiviral. I've been googling it and found
there is a study that shows it has helped PMT. It's regarded as a
noxious weed here because when sheep eat too much of it they become
oversensitive to the sun and die from sun exposure!
The other thing I've found out about it is that it speeds up the liver's
processes of metabolising some drugs - so people wanting to pass drug
screening tests use it to clear drugs from their body quickly.
So I'm thinking that its connection with the Hot Flushes has got
something to do with the liver's ability to process hormones and
possibly some other hormonal influence as well.
And I'm remembering that Fran's suggestion quite a while ago for
persistant hot flushes was Nux Vom, which could also be about liver
influence.
Gail.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Luise Kunkle wrote:
remember
When
returned.
doing
New
the
John's
far
fright'.
the
similar
remove
and
away
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ever
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while.
like
representations
on
receive
Yes St John's Wort is very popular in Australia for depression and
anxiety. It's also used as an antiviral. I've been googling it and found
there is a study that shows it has helped PMT. It's regarded as a
noxious weed here because when sheep eat too much of it they become
oversensitive to the sun and die from sun exposure!
The other thing I've found out about it is that it speeds up the liver's
processes of metabolising some drugs - so people wanting to pass drug
screening tests use it to clear drugs from their body quickly.
So I'm thinking that its connection with the Hot Flushes has got
something to do with the liver's ability to process hormones and
possibly some other hormonal influence as well.
And I'm remembering that Fran's suggestion quite a while ago for
persistant hot flushes was Nux Vom, which could also be about liver
influence.
Gail.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Luise Kunkle wrote:
remember
When
returned.
doing
New
the
John's
far
fright'.
the
similar
remove
and
away
she
ever
same
been
while.
like
representations
on
receive
Re: Hot Flushes
I use Oophorinum 30C with great success on PMS and pre menopausal symptoms. I purchased Dr. Ramakrishnan CD on Hormone replacements and it had a lot of good info. Kathy
Kathleen Ramsey M.C.S. D.D.
Naturopath, Flower Essence Practitioner, Master Herbalist
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gail
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:40 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} [Minutus] Re: Hot Flushes
Hi Luise,
Yes St John's Wort is very popular in Australia for depression and
anxiety. It's also used as an antiviral. I've been googling it and found
there is a study that shows it has helped PMT. It's regarded as a
noxious weed here because when sheep eat too much of it they become
oversensitive to the sun and die from sun exposure!
The other thing I've found out about it is that it speeds up the liver's
processes of metabolising some drugs - so people wanting to pass drug
screening tests use it to clear drugs from their body quickly.
So I'm thinking that its connection with the Hot Flushes has got
something to do with the liver's ability to process hormones and
possibly some other hormonal influence as well.
And I'm remembering that Fran's suggestion quite a while ago for
persistant hot flushes was Nux Vom, which could also be about liver
influence.
Gail.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com , Luise Kunkle wrote:
remember
When
returned.
doing
New
the
John's
far
fright'.
the
similar
remove
and
away
she
ever
same
been
while.
like
representations
on
receive
Kathleen Ramsey M.C.S. D.D.
Naturopath, Flower Essence Practitioner, Master Herbalist
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gail
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:40 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} [Minutus] Re: Hot Flushes
Hi Luise,
Yes St John's Wort is very popular in Australia for depression and
anxiety. It's also used as an antiviral. I've been googling it and found
there is a study that shows it has helped PMT. It's regarded as a
noxious weed here because when sheep eat too much of it they become
oversensitive to the sun and die from sun exposure!
The other thing I've found out about it is that it speeds up the liver's
processes of metabolising some drugs - so people wanting to pass drug
screening tests use it to clear drugs from their body quickly.
So I'm thinking that its connection with the Hot Flushes has got
something to do with the liver's ability to process hormones and
possibly some other hormonal influence as well.
And I'm remembering that Fran's suggestion quite a while ago for
persistant hot flushes was Nux Vom, which could also be about liver
influence.
Gail.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com , Luise Kunkle wrote:
remember
When
returned.
doing
New
the
John's
far
fright'.
the
similar
remove
and
away
she
ever
same
been
while.
like
representations
on
receive
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