EMR interference with remedies?

[Helen Tucker]

Here is my second question on EMR's.
I live in Peru, and I have personally observed that remedies seem to work better here in South America than they do in the States. I have noticed that they work better in remote villages with little electromagnetic and chemical pollution than in larger towns.
Has anyone else noticed that remedies work better in some locations than others? I wonder if remedies work better in remote villages for us because there is less interference from electromagnetic radiation. Has anything been written about EMR interfering with remedies?
Thanks,
Helen

[Shannon Nelson]

Helen, I'm fascinated by that observation! Can you say just what you
mean by remedies "seem to work better"--do you mean that they hold
their effect longer, or fuller effect, or seem to cure in fewer doses
(or maybe all of the above)?

I would think most likely it is difference in the *patient response*,
rather than any change happening to the remedy--tho I'm only guessing.
Do your observations seem to suggest one rather than the other?

In Hahnemann's day it had been noted that people from e.g. cities and
more hectic and etc. lifestyles were / are more difficult to treat than
people coming from a more "natural" ("simpler") environment. It might
be hard to sort out whether the effects you're noticing are in fact EMF
related, or whether it's more a matter of lifestyle etc.?
Shannon

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Peter Chappell observed the same when he was treating people in Eastern Europe. In fact he said the cases were 'pure' and the patients were like walking materia medica. So you clearly saw the remedy like Nat-m, Sepia, etc
Seeing patient is Iran for me is the same, as opposed to those in UK.
It could be due to cleaner environment as well as cleaner personal history.

Regards

Soroush

[Teresa Kramer]

My homeopath, who is Pakistani and practiced for many years in Pakistan, says that he uses sycotic remedies much more in the US (for reasons that I believe are not yet totally clear to him, even) than he ever did in Pakistan.
I heard or read that George Vithoulkas had great success with remedies in Greece in the 60s, say, and that success (i.e., his teaching) was harder to replicate in more polluted environments. Teresa (Northern VA)
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of helensan@att.net
I live in Peru, and I have personally observed that remedies seem to work better here in South America than they do in the States. I have noticed that they work better in remote villages with little electromagnetic and chemical pollution than in larger towns.

[Helen Tucker]

First, thanks to everyone who responded. I appreciate your input.

Remedies seem to have a fuller effect here than in the USA. For example, his first remedy was Mezereum. In the States (in that house next to the power substation), he would swing between dramatic improvement and aggravation with just one dose. We tried tweaking the doses, but they always produced a cycle of aggravation after improvement. We tried this for a month, but because of the aggravations, there was no net improvement. When we moved to Peru, the same remedy (I brought the same exact bottle) caused only improvement without the aggravation. In one month, my son's severe itching eczema was 50% better.
Here in Peru, I live in a town of 25,000 people called San Vicente. On the weekends, I travel to a little remote village outside of cell phone coverage with a population of 1600 called Pacaran. I always give him a dose of his remedy before we travel to Pacaran. My son's symptoms included intolerance/allergy to all foods, severe eczema, and failure to thrive (inability to gain weight). The same bag of corn chips that he breaks out to in San Vicente causes no reaction in Pacaran. It was in Pacaran that he first was able to eat meat (fish), that always caused him to swell up in San Vicente. His eczema gets better in Pacaran, then gets worse again when we return to San Vicente. Whenever his weight gain stalls, he would gain weight after a trip to Pacaran. If I go to Pacaran *without* giving him his remedy, he still improves, but not nearly as much. This makes me think it is the combination of both the remedy and the place that helps.
We have tried traveling around to see which locations he responds to better. His best location is a little village in the Dem Rep of the Congo that doesn't have electricity and has very poor cell phone coverage. There he responded to his remedies, both acute and chronic, almost miraculously. In just four weeks there, his eczema (which was oozing and bleeding all over his body) disappeared entirely! And he was able to eat things that he has moderate allergies to, that he can't even eat in Pacaran.
I don't know that it is the absence of EMRs that makes the difference. It could be a combination of both EM and chemical pollution. I don't know.
One more note. I have talked to 2 other people whose children have allergies, asthma, and eczema. Their problems aren't as severe or as extensive as my son's. But they report that their children's symptoms clear up when they visit families in India for a couple of months, without any change in treatment. I wonder if the States and Western Europe have maintaining causes that block the effect of remedies.
It makes me wonder also if this is why homeopathy is more popular in India and South American than in the States. Maybe it is because remedies work better in these locations.
Helen

[Shannon Nelson]

Mm, that does seem to lay it all out pretty clearly!
And it does *sound* (to me anyway) as tho EMFs are the more likely
culprit than chemical pollution, but it does make sense to keep both in
mind...

So it's clear, then, that "remedies work better" means (picking a nit
) that "people respond better to remedies", which was my
assumption. Tho in the cases Hahnemann and others have talked about,
the usual factor has been differences in the *patients* (with "simpler"
and "cleaner" background tending to lead to stronger vital force, less
"compensation" and fewer "layers" or complications to the case);
whereas with your son, the change in *environment* is primary.

I'm finding your situation especially compelling for several reasons.
One is that, although your son's situation is uncommonly intense
(history *next to* power station, and his extreme reactions to EMFs),
I've been suspecting that it's a *type* of problem (sensitivity to
these newer radiation sources) that will be affecting us (as
populations, at least) increasingly. Second is that, as you say, it's
a new situation and we're going to have to *learn* how to manage it.
Third is that it seems likely that a different range of remedies may
come into play--not entirely, since e.g. silica seems relevant and is
certainly not "new", yet will equally certainly not solve all of the
problems for all of the affected people. (Well, I am assuming only...)

(Thinking...) Carcinosin seems like another that *might* be relevant
somewhere along the way, as it is "famous" for multiple allergies and
failure to thrive, tho you'd want to see whether that's supported by
other aspects of his case, personal and family history (including but
*not* confined to cancer in blood relatives--have you read up much on
carcinosin?).

And the EMF remedies should be well worth reading too.

Helen, I hope you'll let us know if you're able to find remedies that
reduce his sensitivity!!!

Have you been able to get a sense of what he would be like (health,
temperament, etc.) if he were living long-term in an EMF-free zone? I
*think* that would be the place to start looking for a possible deeper
remedy for him?

Thanks for sharing this!
Shannon

[Theresa Partington]

Hello Helen
This is indeed an interesting thought - though whether it is the remedies or the people who suffer from EMR would be hard to tell. A lot of people avoid exposing remedies to mobile phones etc when in transit.
I have never understood why people living in war torn central europe in the shadow of Chernobyl and of political collapse ( all highly vaccinated and medicated) would somehow be leading a simpler, less stressed and purer lives! It is hard also to see why restricted diets and malnutrition should make homeopathy easier in developing countries when we put so much store on maintaining causes in the developed ones.
Likewise, when people say that it was easier for olde homeopaths because of less pollluted environment and less stress I can't help thinking of the first world war, the london smogs, lead in strawberry jam and arsenic in green wallpaper...
The amount of emr really is something new and if it is true that the challenges are greater (rather than the skills less) then it might be explanation.
BW
Theresa

[Shannon Nelson]

On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Theresa Partington wrote:
But she did say--
Helen wrote: We tried this for a month, but because of the
aggravations, there was no net improvement. When we moved to Peru, the
same remedy **(I brought the same exact bottle)** caused only
improvement without the aggravation.
?? Are you saying these people are responding *better* to homeopathy
than the rest of us, or ??

I'm thinking about Nuala Eising's wonderful cases of the Chernobyl kids
responding to granite and marble--is that what you're referring to, or
something more? (I would LOVE to hear follow-up on them!)
The people said to be easier to treat were not the ones who'd have been
living in London smog or eating much strawberry jam or using a lot of
wallpaper... At least not from my (vague) understanding. Maybe I'm
being naive (again). But Hahnemann apparently found his Paris
clientele less straightforward than his earlier, rural patients.
) Yes, I'm sure skill comes into it too!!
And we no doubt *read* more about the "old guys'" successes than about
their failures, too.

Also in these polluted, complicated times and places today, some
homeopaths are evidently having better success rates than others, which
surely supports the idea that skill is a factor!

Shannon

[bty17859616]

Hi everyone, just picked up on this thread, as my computer has not
been working well in the last few days.
Just want to share that I have been getting very good results with a
new remedy called MRPG3 - mobile mast radiation, for when the person
does not improve on the indicated remedy, and I suspect EMF
influence, for example a lot pf people now use cordless phones, which
are so unhealthy. Best results have been with children. Had a child
recently with severe snot, not clearing, gave one dose of MRPG3 and
it totally cleared overnight. I think that EMR could become a new
miasm. Grace

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
you mean by remedies "seem to work better"--do you mean that they
hold their effect longer, or fuller effect, or seem to cure in fewer
doses
example, his first remedy was Mezereum. In the States (in that house
next to the power substation), he would swing between dramatic
improvement and aggravation with just one dose. We tried tweaking
the doses, but they always produced a cycle of aggravation after
improvement. We tried this for a month, but because of the
aggravations, there was no net improvement. When we moved to Peru,
the same remedy (I brought the same exact bottle) caused only
improvement without the aggravation. In one month, my son's severe
itching eczema was 50% better.
Vicente. On the weekends, I travel to a little remote village
outside of cell phone coverage with a population of 1600 called
Pacaran. I always give him a dose of his remedy before we travel to
Pacaran. My son's symptoms included intolerance/allergy to all
foods, severe eczema, and failure to thrive (inability to gain
weight). The same bag of corn chips that he breaks out to in San
Vicente causes no reaction in Pacaran. It was in Pacaran that he
first was able to eat meat (fish), that always caused him to swell up
in San Vicente. His eczema gets better in Pacaran, then gets worse
again when we return to San Vicente. Whenever his weight gain
stalls, he would gain weight after a trip to Pacaran. If I go to
Pacaran *without* giving him his remedy, he still improves, but not
nearly as much. This makes me think it is the combination of both
the remedy and the place that helps.
to better. His best location is a little village in the Dem Rep of
the Congo that doesn't have electricity and has very poor cell phone
coverage. There he responded to his remedies, both acute and
chronic, almost miraculously. In just four weeks there, his eczema
(which was oozing and bleeding all over his body) disappeared
entirely! And he was able to eat things that he has moderate
allergies to, that he can't even eat in Pacaran.
difference. It could be a combination of both EM and chemical
pollution. I don't know.
allergies, asthma, and eczema. Their problems aren't as severe or as
extensive as my son's. But they report that their children's
symptoms clear up when they visit families in India for a couple of
months, without any change in treatment. I wonder if the States and
Western Europe have maintaining causes that block the effect of
remedies.
in India and South American than in the States. Maybe it is because
remedies work better in these locations.

[Helen Tucker]

Thanks for the info! Where can you get this remedy, MRPG3?
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I think so too.
Helen