bold print in proving symptoms

[Sheri Nakken]

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asked by a student that I don't really know why the bold is there, and the
trouble is I'm still not sure how much importance to give these symptoms.
way remedies have been reduced to two or three symptoms or mental/emotional
states, how important do you think the bold symptoms in the MMP are?

I don't think it is important at all. I agree with what Karen Allen wrote
in that article I sent.
I don't go by it at all because something that is not in bold could be just
as important for my patient.
Same as the whole thing with statistics - they say statistically you will
get such and such - say 90% - what if I'm in the 10%.

It has never been important in any case I've done.
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[Shannon Nelson]

Someone expressed it--
"You don't need a gold-plated key to open a door; a plain one will do."
Well, that's probably paraphrased, but something close to that.

[Irene de Villiers]

Gaby Rottler wrote:

This is also my understanding - per the books my cousin inherited from
several generations ago of homeopaths.

Namaste,
IRene
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

Vera Resnick wrote:

MY view is this:

When repertorizing a CHRONIC case:
* If the remedy appears at all in the rubric, then it is a valid symptom
to consider for that remedy, whatever intensity it has. The principle is
that if the remedy has that symptom, it CAN help that symptom.
* If the remedy is emphasized in a SMALL remedy (one that has fewer
known rubrics) then I consider it of extra significance.
* If the emphasized remedy is a polycrest, then I take no special notice
in a chronic case.

When repertorizing an ACUTE case:
* Same applies as above except that a remedy emphasized that is a
polycrest is likely to be especially helpful (and likely a keynote
issue), hence reliable as a first aid selection and I'd give the mphasis
extra significance here.

Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Gaby Rottler]

Hi Vera,

a proving symptom observed more often should be something worth to be
followed, even worth to be leanrt sometimes.
One way:
after reading the remedy in the MMP, go to Hering's Guiding symptoms.

At least in the beginning, he differentiated clearly between symptoms
produced, symptoms produced more often, symptoms cured, symptoms
repeatedly cured.

These classifications help you to learn or memorize a remedy, get an
idea of what it 'easily' does, what it does more often.

So when confronted with a new case, you should have an idea of the
remedies before looking at the rep and checking for special symptoms.

Best,

Gaby

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Gaby Rottler
Germany
rottler@curantur.de
http://www.curantur.de
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[Vera Resnick]

Hi Gaby,
Thanks very much - at present I'm really looking at this from the point of view of the student, how best to study proving symptoms and MM in general. My feeling is that if someone bothered to write something in bold or italics, they wanted it to be more noticeable - as is true in anything anyone writes today. The question was - what level of importance, and also whether the emphasis was made by someone other than the author, which does not seem to be the case here.
I'll check out Hering - I don't have the books, only the software version so I'm not sure how full it is. Next book purchase coming up...
Regards,
Vera

[Sheri Nakken]

At 09:00 AM 10/25/2007 +0200, you wrote:

Again, this webpage tells exactly what they meant by BOLD in each MM by
Hahnemann, Hering, TF Allen, & HC Allen

From Roger van Zandvoort (who developed the Complete Repertory)

Here is his info on what the Degrees are in each MM

http://www.morphologica.com/english/repertory/guide.htm

VIEW AT Webpage because below info is in chart form and does not format
well in email
Remedy degrees have been chosen using specific guidelines for the grades
indicated in the material medica. Here are a few examples.

Hahnemann?s Materia Medica Pura and Chronic Diseases
(Between brackets) not relevant enough to use
Normal print infrequently seen in provings/patients First degree: plain type
Bold text often seen in provings/patients Second degree: italics
Hering?s Guiding Symptoms, Analytical Repertory of the Symptoms of the Mind
Knerr?s Repertory to the Guiding Symptoms
| or no sign occasionally confirmed proving symptom First degree: plain type
|| more frequently confirmed proving symptom First degree: plain type
| (bold) symptoms verified by cures Second degree: italics
|| (bold) symptoms repeatedly verified by cures Third degree: bold
pointing finger approved characteristic Third degree: bold
?, the Greek letter theta indicates a specific pathological or
physiological state during which a specific symptom was cured by the
remedy. We included those remedies when there was more than one entry for
that situation and/or when these entries were not in plain type. These
remedies have a certain value not restricted to that specific situation and
therefore should be mentioned. Toxicological symptoms were included. ?
symptoms have been included, standing for symptoms observed in the sick.
The Knerr repertory omits the ? and ? symptoms.
T F Allen?s Encyclopedia of Pure Materia Medica
Normal text not verified symptoms First degree: plain type
* Normal text verified symptoms First degree: plain type
Italic text more frequent in provings Second degree: italics
* Italic text more frequent in provings, verified in cures Second degree:
italics
Bold text frequent in provings Third degree: bold
* Bold text frequent in provings and verified in cures Third degree: bold
H C Allen?s Materia Medica of the Nosodes
Allen probably used a combination of information from Jahr and Hering
| or no sign proving symptom, not or only occasionally confirmed First
degree: plain type
|| more frequently confirmed proving symptom Second degree: italics
Italics more frequently confirmed proving symptom Second degree: italics
| Italics symptoms verified by cures ? Second degree: italics
||| frequently confirmed proving symptom ? Third degree: bold
?, the Greek letter theta indicates a specific pathological or
physiological state during which a specific symptom was cured by the
remedy. (see Lac vaccinum defloratum)

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[Vera Resnick]

Thanks Sheri,
I checked out the website, it's really useful and I've bookmarked it.
Regards,
Vera