Evaporation and vital energy

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Tanya,
But this is confusing again...
If you are further diluting, why would you need to equalize the
succussions? I understand why one would if you're e.g. preparing a
second bottle of the same LM potency, but if you've added water to the
remainder of the first before succussing, then you're increasing the
potency (by a somewhat indeterminate amount), and I wouldn't have
thought number of succussions would be a factor? Other than being a
"more potent" or "less potent" version of the potency, if that makes
any sense...
Shannon

[Tanya Marquette]

because i would usually succuss the bottle and when refilling, would
succuss it
to bring it up the altered potency before beginning to use it again.
does that make sense to you? i actually do this with c scale rx as well as
lm's
i just did this with a 200c ledum bottle in water for a severe pi case for
someone.

tanya

[Ellen Madono]

Hi Shannon,

No I would add the blanks, add a few drops of very high proof alcohol
(so the blanks don't melt with the water content of the alcohol) and
then swish the alcohol around so the blanks are all covered. (Here's
where alcohol in a bottle with a good spoit comes in handy). I keep
the blanks in salad dressing serving jars covereed by a wine pouring
caps that has a cap. It took a lot of effort to set this up, but the
Doc has to do this regularily so it is worthwhile getting organized
from the beginning.

Then let the blanks dry naturally in the shade with the cover just
partly off the bottle to avoid dust getting into the blanks. I dry
stuff like this on my many bookshelves. I would not put a bunch of
bottles of drying blanks together and try to avoid sniffing the bottle
(impossible).

I do notice the difference between 6c and 9c when I am increasing the
dosage gradually, but where ever you start, the increased potency is
the key. That's where you notice the change, not that there is an
absolutely magic potency in for example 6c.

Hi Rosemary,
I routinely dilute remedies for hyper-sensitive patients. I do this
to avoid predictable aggravations. The ameliorations come anyway with
the dilution if the remedy is right. We know what to expect because
we got those ameliorations before the dilutions. Succussion is just
to gradually increase the potency to avoid repeating the exact same
dose with its increased chances of aggravationns.

Grafting remedies as described above does not depend on succussion.

Best,
Ellen

[Ellen Madono]

By the way, I don't think the vital energy is in the bottle. It is in
living things, (I think).
Best,
Ellen

[Rosemary C Hyde PhD]

Yes, apparently diluting in more liquid does actually increase potency, although that's not universally known among homeopaths. Rosemary

[Rosemary C Hyde PhD]

Hi, Shannon, I added more water to a liquid remedy. :-O
Rosemary

[Ellen Madono]

Hmm. Is that what is happening. Makes sense. Thanks Rosemary.

[Leilanae]

Hi Rosemary,

I thought potency was a result of succussion?

Leilanae

[Rosemary C Hyde PhD]

I did too, until I took Dr. Luc's online class about case management, and
one of his points was (I THINK) that diluting the remedy in a larger amount
of liquid resulted in a higher potency.

Rosemary

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Dilution + succussion = higher potency, quantifiable
Dilution only = same potency, with a smaller dose/amount of remedy, lowers the risk or seriousness of aggravation
Succussion only = small increment in potency, proportionally to the number of succussion but actually not really quantifiable, used when repeating a dose of the same remedy in order not to have exactly the same potency.
With LM/Q potencies, it is done by the patient therefore the force used and the technique used is about the same every time and some level of quantification is possible; theoretically, for each amount of remedy taken out of the bottle, we should add the same amount of water before next succussion in order to have a real increase in potency.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".