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Shannon Nelson
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Food [was: Researching Fungus Fungi

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Soroush,
Yes, isn't that interesting!!
As you know, many people have many theories... :-)
Depletion of the immune system, by various sources of toxic assault,
including vaccination, is no doubt one part. Another likely part of
the picture is depletion of our immune systems thru depletion (at least
here in the US) of the food supply (combination of processed foods
and/or chemical-intensive, incomplete and imbalanced farming methods).

A third apparent factor is that hybridization--and now "genetic
engineering" too--is bringing us foods that, tho going by the same name
as the "traditional" ones, e.g. wheat and corn, are nutritionally *not*
the same. E.g., some people who cannot tolerate the commercially
available hybridized versions of wheat and corn, *can* tolerate
"older", non-hybridized varieties. One example is the "ancient wheat"
kamut, which some wheat-sensitive people can tolerate; another is that
some corn-sensitive people will not react to blue corn and popcorn.

I recall someone on I think this list, some time back, saying that she
had wondered why so many Americans are wheat-sensitive. Then when she
(European, I think?) lived in the US for some time she found she had
become wheat-intolerant--but only until moving back home, after which
she was fine with wheat again. Is the person who wrote that here? I
found it extremely thought-provoking!

Shannon


Jeff
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Re: Food [was: Researching Fungus Fungi

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I think the treatment must have to do with Curing with similars

This is a similar idea to that of vaccinations; by providing the body with a ‘taster’ of the disease, it prompts the body to create resistance but unlike vaccinations , homeopathy is given not just as a preventative, but most often as a remedy to an existing condition.

When taking homeopathic medicine, you are effectively kick-starting your body into fighting the problem itself by giving your immune system the necessary information to do so. This gentle approach has many obvious advantages and is able to offer a response tailored to your specific symptom to Cobham. it means using a substance that could cause a similar problem to cure the problem, e.g. in a condition where the skin had symptoms that looked and felt like a nettle sting even though it wasn't (e.g. urticaria), Nettle might be used homeopathically because the effects of nettle are 'similar'.
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Teresa Kramer
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Re: Food [was: Researching Fungus Fungi

Post by Teresa Kramer »

What about LEAKY GUT SYNDROME? I think that is the answer to some of the allergy/food intolerance stuff and it was, in my case anyway, due to antibiotics as well as vaccines perhaps (vaccinated over and over for Foreign Service life overseas).
I became “allergic” to wheat, oatmeal, turkey, peanuts etc. in the 80s. All the things I was eating a lot of. Came to find out later that due to antibiotic overload plus stress (as I understand what I researched so thoroughly back when there was no internet), I had “leaky gut syndrome”. Had many of the sx of IBS. The whole proteins from those frequently eaten but poorly digested foods had passed into my blood stream and triggered my immune system’s response, as I understand it.
I think my immune system was not depleted but reacting to something it should not normally have come into contact with. I drank homemade kefir for years and healed my intestines to a good extent, then H treatment, which I only found in the late 90s, did the rest. So I think leaky gut syndrome is is one of those “theories” that it pays to become familiar with. Teresa (Northern VA)
I recall someone on I think this list, some time back, saying that she had wondered why so many Americans are wheat-sensitive. Then when she (European, I think?) lived in the US for some time she found she had become wheat-intolerant--but only until moving back home, after which she was fine with wheat again. Is the person who wrote that here? I found it extremely thought-provoking!


Irene de Villiers
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Post by Irene de Villiers »

jeffAfrankel@aol.com wrote:

According to what theory please?
I see no correlation at all between vaccinations (a way to induce
antibodies to a VERY specific antigen and simultaneously skew the immune
system, predisposing chronic disease and weakening the vital force)
... and homeoprophylaxis (a strengthening of the vital force and a
building of resistance to specific SYMPTOMS regardless of cause.)
Yes
According to?
If we only had to kick-start the immune system, then homeopathy would
readily work through steroid suppression of immune systems, and it does
not. So the mechanism is not one of directly stimulating the immune system.

Namaste,
IRene
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Food [was: Researching Fungus Fungi

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Teresa Kramer wrote:
I agree, but there are two steps to atopy. (allergic condition in which
one easily develops allergies).

Step one is to skew the immune system so that Th-2 cytokines (which
include those that produce antibodies) are MORE active in an out of
balance way, with TH-1 cytokines (which help against chronic disease,
including atopy.)
Vaccines are KNOWN to skew the immune system to TH-2 and away from Th-1.
So your immune system was skewed ahead of time.
That is prerequisite for developing allergies.

AFTER that - if you then have anything happen which allows undigested
protein into the blood stream - through the gut wall or lungs or other
compromised tissue - into the blood stream - your body will see that
protein as "foreign protein" and will develop antibodies to it - and
attack it. Hence the allergy.
That is the 2nd step - getting foreign protein into the blood.

So you got both steps as is required to get an allergy to something.
Thats would help againt the ability to get foreign proteins into the
blood, so it would stop you getting new allergies.
This can re=balance the Th-1 and Th-2 cytokines so there is not
OVER-response to antigens, and thus can reverse prior allergies.
One reason is that lectins in wheat interact with Type O blood group
antigens strongly, and less so with Type A blood group antigens, and
this leads to problems.
Eating rice-based products instead, is usually a good answer. Even Rye
(which has gluten) is better. In this case it is not a gluten
sensitivity (though there is such a thing as well) but a wheat lectin
problem.
Might be different lectin levels in foreign wheat?

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


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