High carbohydrate foods.

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks, Dale!
Makes sense.
Shannon

[Luise Kunkle]

Hi Shannon,
Mostly grain-fed from infancy;-(

Other meat is rarely consumed, since very expensive. Most people who
do not want to eat meat from mass production will do without meat
alltogether (Myself being one of them)
Eskimos have always been used as an example for the benefits of high
protein/high fat diet. However, it is argued also that they may have
died young - of heart attack:-) I do not know whether there has been
research to sustain or falsify this argument.

I also wonder whether

You are probably right - although there seem to be quite a few
"pudding vegetarians", the word expresses what is meant, I think:-)
Quite possibly this is at least part of the answer.

As I said - I gave up on the problem years ago. I am a veggie for
ethical/philosophical reasons. Speaking for myself: I did not notice
any difference in health AND/or "wellness" after I changed to Adele
Davis, abandoned it to a degree, then changed to (lacto-oo)
vegetarian. Whether or not it has done anything for or against my
health as far as long-time effects are concerned I, of cource, do not
know.

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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[Luise Kunkle]

Hi Irene,
This may be true for cat/animal food - not for people.

We learned in 1981, i.e. long before the research you mention above,
that with kidney damage one has to eat low protein foods. This had
been well-established even then, so the idea must be even quite a bit
older.

I am not arguing whether for people this opinion is right or wrong - I
am just saying it cannot be based on the Hills research.

cut
What you say above has been the paradigm of regular medicine. It was
such when Prof. Wendt did his research (which was not accepted by reg.
med.) This also applies to the studies pertaining to show that
vegetarians had a significantly lower incidence of coronary heart
disease.

There also have been publications that aim to show that the incidence
of heart attacks is lower in the meditarranean countries, specifically
Greece than in the rest of Europe. In those countries wheat is staple
food., they used to eat a lot of fish rather than meat before the
Mediterranean Sea got depleted of fish. Other studies aim to show that
in Japan there has been much lower incidence of heart attacks - in
Japan the staple food is rice, and they tend to eat fish rather than
meat.

Please do remember: staple foods in most of the world have been
grains, fruit, potatoes, yams - all high carbohydrate. Common people
could not afford to eat meat except - where lucky - on Sundays and
holidays.

Regards

Luise
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One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks, I'll try to remember that.

[Shannon Nelson]

The Inuit also have *adapted* to their diet--as has every population
which has lived for many generations with a limited and stable diet. I
read somewhere that they have an enlarged... some organ that helps to
process all the fat; I don't think it was gall bladder, but perhaps.
They have specifically adapted, as a race, to that particular diet.
They both tolerate it better than would a differently-adapted race, and
also they need it more than would a differently-adapted race. My
reason in bringing them into it was only to say that different races
(genetic inheritances) do have different specific adaptations which
make them better suited to certain diets and circumstances, and less
well suited to others. I assume there are other races which, as a
race, would *not* do well with a high-meat diet--perhaps there are
genetic groups who have lived for an equally long time in an
agricultural setting?
Shannon

[Rosemary C Hyde PhD]

Hi, Shannon. You're right. I think that's actually the basis for the "blood type diet." -- at least historically.
Rosemary

[Luise Kunkle]

Hi Shannon,
. I assume there are other

The people of South India come to mind - Tamils and others. They do
not eat meat - and probably no eggs.

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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[muthu kumar]

Not so- Tamils eat meats and eggs and have done so for at least 2000
years ...

There are certain castes in Tamils as in other regional / linguistic
groups in India that do not eat meat or eggs.

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[Luise Kunkle]

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Well, all I could say is that in Tamil Nadu andKarnataka
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"meals" consisted of vegetarian food, that families I got to know were
veggies etc.

Regards

Luise
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So definitely know what's true:
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[Sally Wallingford]

From my research, Eskimos died early from "Eskimo Lung Disease" - not from malnutrition or high protein or low carb diets. Many long distance runners, or people who insist in running in the winter, suffer from this. They exert themselves in 0 degree weather and their lungs suffer from condensation.
Sally Wallingford
Ontario Canada

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