Researching Fungus Fungi

[Irene de Villiers]

Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:

I don't find it worthwhile to go his site any more at all - more than
half the stuff I saw last time was inappropriate - for example last I
looked his microwave stories were as old wives tale as ever.

To me there's no point using any website where the stuff presented is
not checked out. If you are expert enough to spot what's good and what's
not, you do not need the site - and if you are *not* expert enough to
know it already - how will you tell? So why go there?

There are PLENTY of good places to get true information. No need to get
the iffy stuff of one person's often incorrect third or fourth-hand
opinion - he does no research!

Namaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

I don't quite understand what he is on about "If you are familiar with Homeopathy".

Any way, is there any evidence that microwaving produces chemicals that other forms of cooking do not?

Regards

Soroush

[Tanya Marquette]

it is obvious that mercola does not understand homeopathy.
he, at times, sounds like he supports its use, but has
never really shown any understanding of it. this post
just seems to indicate that he has not put any energy into
trying to learn anything about how it works or its healing.
i have written to him in the past about his ignoring homeopathy
as a healing modality. the best article he ever ran, that i
noticed, was something taken from a libertarian website that
supported the unfettered regulations against it. but that is
the libertarian philosophy in general. mercola, i believe,
is a libertarian judging from numerous articles that he has
written on social, political or economic positions.
but i think he has provided good information on many subjects
with numerous links for further reading. i think one takes
what is meaningful and leaves the rest, as they say. at base,
we all need to become responsible for educating ourselves and
making choices with which we will have to live. in a sense,
this is what gets discussed/argued over all the time on minutus.
ultimately, we all make decisions about information presented, which
often changes as more research is done and more experience is
accumulated.
tanya

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks Leilanae and Irene!
Shannon

[medmidas]

Hi,
For Fungi, I remember "Dr. Reckeweg R82"
Google for more info with words inside "--".
There are similar nosode combination remedies.
Any experiences with these?

This is ofcourse unconstitutional nosode therapy (:

[Jeff]

In homeopathy there is treatments that are recommended for fungus, the products recommended were Thuja Graphites , Sepia Sulphur

No information in this letter should be construed as medical advice.
This information is for educational purposes only.

Jeff Frankel
10360 Pine Lakes Blvd
North Fort Myers, Fl 33903
239-731-2655
http://www.msprotocols.com/
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[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Jeff
I am glad that you have taken a deep interest in homoeopathy.
However, in homoeopathic treatment, we do not treat particulars - unless it is an emergency.
The treatment is based on the relevant totality of the presenting symptoms.
So the patient may have a fungal infection, but if the 'general prescription' is correct, then the infection goes away as the body becomes less susceptible to such infections.
And I would imagine as professional homoeopaths most of us would know what to do in such cases. But if any one asks for help, then please do not hesitate to offer your input and help.
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On the question of being severely affected by micro organisms that have been on the Earth while we have evolved to our present day stage, the question must be asked as to why is it that so many people are showing a negative reaction to staple food sources such as wheat etc.
Has the depletion of our immune system by such things like vaccination got any thing to do with it?

Regards

Soroush

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Jeff,
So far as I'm aware, these remedies would only be effective for fungus
in a person of a corresponding constitutional state, not for any
fungus in any person. Do you recall any specifics of what you read?
Shannon

[Irene de Villiers]

Finrod wrote:

No there is no such evidence.
Microwave cooking is simply heating.
Whatever heat does, it does whether by microwave or any other heating
method. Temperature is what counts. Overcooking by microwave or any
other method, will cause problems.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Irene,
Trying to track down some vague memories, I found this interesting
piece. What I was trying to track down had to do with changes in
nutritional content, findings that certain nutrients are preserved by
microwaving, while others are depleted. I haven't found that yet...
identical plants, raising one with regular tap water, and the other
with microwaved tap water. It suggested that microwaved water is not a
good thing for plants--but certainly a personal experiment involving
only two plants can't be taken as proof.

But what I found was far more interesting, and also far more damning.
I would be interested in your thoughts?

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From http://www.relfe.com/microwave.html

[...]

There have been very few scientific studies done on the effect of
eating food microwaved food. This is rather surprising when you think
about the fact that microwaves have been with us for only a few decades
- and that in that time the incidence of many diseases has continued to
increase.

Two researchers, Blanc and Hertel, confirmed that microwave cooking
significantly changes food nutrients. Hertel previously worked as a
food scientist for several years with one of the major Swiss food
companies. He was fired from his job for questioning procedures in
processing food because they denatured it. He got together with Blanc
of the Swiss Federal Institute of Biochemistry and the University
Institute for Biochemistry.

They studied the effect that microwaved food had on eight individuals,
by taking blood samples immediately after eating. They found that after
eating microwaved food, haemoglobin levels decreased. "These results
show anaemic tendencies. The situation became even more pronounced
during the second month of the study".

Who knows what results they would have found if they had studied people
who ate microwaved food for a year or more?

The violent change that microwaving causes to the food molecules forms
new life forms called radiolytic compounds. These are mutations that
are unknown in the natural world. Ordinary cooking also causes the
formation of some radiolytic compounds (which is no doubt one reason
why it is better to eat plenty of raw food), but microwaving cooking
causes a much greater number. This then causes deterioration in your
blood and immune system.

In addition, they found that the number of leucocytes increases after
eating microwaved food - something which haematologists take very
seriously, because this is often a sign of highly harmful effects, such
as poisoning.

Also, after eating microwaved food, cholesterol levels increased.
Hertel said "Common scientific belief states that cholesterol values
usually alter slowly over longer periods of time. In this study, the
markers increased rapidly after the consumption of the microwaved
vegetables." He believes his study tends to confirm new scientific data
that suggest cholesterol may rapidly increase in the blood secondary to
acute stress. "Also," he added, "blood cholesterol levels are less
influenced by cholesterol content of food than by stress factors. Such
stress-causing factors can apparently consist of foods which contain
virtually no cholesterol - the microwaved vegetables."

The results were published in "Search for Health" in the Spring of
1992. How was this research greeted? A powerful trade organisation, the
Swiss Association of Dealers for Electroapparatuses for Households and
Industry somehow made the President of the Court of Seftigen issue a
`gag order'. Hertel and Blanc were told that if they published their
findings they would face hefty fines or up to one year in prison. In
response to this, Blanc recanted his findings. Hertel, on the other
hand, went on a lecture tour and demanded a jury trial.

FINALLY, in 1998 the Court `Gag Order' was removed. In a judgment
delivered at Strasbourg on 25 August 1998 in the case of Hertel v.
Switzerland, the European Court of Human Rights held that there had
been a violation of Hertel's rights in the 1993 decision. The Court
decided that the `gag order' prohibiting him form declaring that
microwaved food is dangerous to health was contrary to the right to
freedom of expression. In addition, Switzerland was sentenced to pay
compensation of F40,000.

In Summary: Blanc and Hertel found that eating microwaved food:

* Increases cholesterol
* Increases white blood cell numbers
* Decreases red blood cell numbers
* Causes production of radiolytic compounds (compounds unknown in
nature)