breach babies
breach babies
Does anyone remember who wrote about discovering that giving Pulsatilla
could turn a breach baby to a head presentation. I thought it was in
Kent under Pulsatilla, and I also checked Clarke's Pulsatilla without
finding it.
Gail.
could turn a breach baby to a head presentation. I thought it was in
Kent under Pulsatilla, and I also checked Clarke's Pulsatilla without
finding it.
Gail.
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Re: breach babies
Hi Gail,
it's mentioned by Allen in his Handbook and by Hering, Guiding symptoms:
A: - Irregular labor-pains; it not infrequently restores a harmonious
contraction of the uterus and determines a natural presentation of the
child, testimony on this point is so strong that its power to rectify
abnormal presentations seem undoubted.
H: - || During first stage of labor child was lying transversely (first
position, shoulder presentation), in thirty minutes vertex presented.
Best,
Gaby
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it's mentioned by Allen in his Handbook and by Hering, Guiding symptoms:
A: - Irregular labor-pains; it not infrequently restores a harmonious
contraction of the uterus and determines a natural presentation of the
child, testimony on this point is so strong that its power to rectify
abnormal presentations seem undoubted.
H: - || During first stage of labor child was lying transversely (first
position, shoulder presentation), in thirty minutes vertex presented.
Best,
Gaby
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Gaby Rottler
Germany
rottler@curantur.de
http://www.curantur.de
Updates: RESEARCH - ENQUIRIES
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Re: breach babies
Thanks Gaby,
Have you (or anyone else reading) had any experience using it. I had
a pregnant woman due in 3 weeks, asking for it - her midwife
mentioned to her that it was a remedy often used successfully. She
has about a week before the doctor will try and turn the baby
manually. Does it ever bring the labour on early?
Gail
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without
symptoms:
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the
rectify
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presented.
Have you (or anyone else reading) had any experience using it. I had
a pregnant woman due in 3 weeks, asking for it - her midwife
mentioned to her that it was a remedy often used successfully. She
has about a week before the doctor will try and turn the baby
manually. Does it ever bring the labour on early?
Gail
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in
without
symptoms:
harmonious
the
rectify
(first
presented.
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Re: breach babies
I would bet that the way this connection was discovered was
"clinically"--by a few examples of seeing women who got pulsatilla
because that was *called for* by their presenting picture--and seeing
incidentally, that it also caused the presentation to right itself. So
my first thought (and apologies if this is only stating the obvious...)
would be--take her case; does Puls seem indicated elsewhere? If so, it
should be an easy call to give it; if not, why not first give "the
indicated remedy" and see whether that does the trick? (I have zero
actual experience with this issue... Am only offering my FWIW
thoughts.)
Shannon
"clinically"--by a few examples of seeing women who got pulsatilla
because that was *called for* by their presenting picture--and seeing
incidentally, that it also caused the presentation to right itself. So
my first thought (and apologies if this is only stating the obvious...)
would be--take her case; does Puls seem indicated elsewhere? If so, it
should be an easy call to give it; if not, why not first give "the
indicated remedy" and see whether that does the trick? (I have zero
actual experience with this issue... Am only offering my FWIW
thoughts.)
Shannon
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Re: breach babies
That's a good approach, Shannon. I can attest that giving Puls without taking the case, just to "turn the baby" is not necessarily effective. I've been asked to provide it a couple of times by people whose thinking on remedies is basically allopathic -- as one might expect, using the remedy in that way doesn't necessarily work.
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Re: breach babies
Hi
It often does the trick! another rem to think of is Tuberculinum, which also can help- of course there should be some symptoms to guide.
few own experience, some from my patients treated by hom. midwifes .
Here in Germany Dr. Friedrich Graf has a lot of experience, who has been teaching hundreds of midwifes over the years.
afaik none of his books have been translated.
Peter
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It often does the trick! another rem to think of is Tuberculinum, which also can help- of course there should be some symptoms to guide.
few own experience, some from my patients treated by hom. midwifes .
Here in Germany Dr. Friedrich Graf has a lot of experience, who has been teaching hundreds of midwifes over the years.
afaik none of his books have been translated.
Peter
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Re: breach babies
Hi Peter,
Just as a point of curiosity--are you saying that it often works *even*
if the patient is not presenting any (other) recognizable pulsatilla
symptoms (or referring to instances where it was given without finding
out the rest of case?
Shannon
Just as a point of curiosity--are you saying that it often works *even*
if the patient is not presenting any (other) recognizable pulsatilla
symptoms (or referring to instances where it was given without finding
out the rest of case?
Shannon
Re: breach babies
it's mentioned by Allen in his Handbook and by Hering, Guiding symptoms:
I have used Pulsatilla for restoring normal uterine tone and in two cases the results are positive
In one case a woman who previously had retained placenta for each birth now had a normal birth and normal expulsion.
In another , a breech presentation became cephalic 3 days before delivery. I gave the remedy a few days before the turn.
regards
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I have used Pulsatilla for restoring normal uterine tone and in two cases the results are positive
In one case a woman who previously had retained placenta for each birth now had a normal birth and normal expulsion.
In another , a breech presentation became cephalic 3 days before delivery. I gave the remedy a few days before the turn.
regards
Suriya
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Re: breach babies
Suriya--
I would like to ask you the same question: Can you say whether the
women in which you saw it work also had *other* symptoms of pulsatilla?
Shannon
I would like to ask you the same question: Can you say whether the
women in which you saw it work also had *other* symptoms of pulsatilla?
Shannon
Re: breach babies
Dear Shannon
Yes indeed they did. I did not prescribe Pulsatilla empirically but
based on Similimum.
It did not include the constitutional picture , only the symptom picture
regards
Suriya
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Yes indeed they did. I did not prescribe Pulsatilla empirically but
based on Similimum.
It did not include the constitutional picture , only the symptom picture
regards
Suriya
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