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Gail
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breach babies

Post by Gail »

Does anyone remember who wrote about discovering that giving Pulsatilla
could turn a breach baby to a head presentation. I thought it was in
Kent under Pulsatilla, and I also checked Clarke's Pulsatilla without
finding it.

Gail.


Gaby Rottler
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Re: breach babies

Post by Gaby Rottler »

Hi Gail,
it's mentioned by Allen in his Handbook and by Hering, Guiding symptoms:

A: - Irregular labor-pains; it not infrequently restores a harmonious
contraction of the uterus and determines a natural presentation of the
child, testimony on this point is so strong that its power to rectify
abnormal presentations seem undoubted.

H: - || During first stage of labor child was lying transversely (first
position, shoulder presentation), in thirty minutes vertex presented.

Best,

Gaby

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Gail
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Re: breach babies

Post by Gail »

Thanks Gaby,

Have you (or anyone else reading) had any experience using it. I had
a pregnant woman due in 3 weeks, asking for it - her midwife
mentioned to her that it was a remedy often used successfully. She
has about a week before the doctor will try and turn the baby
manually. Does it ever bring the labour on early?

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Shannon Nelson
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Re: breach babies

Post by Shannon Nelson »

I would bet that the way this connection was discovered was
"clinically"--by a few examples of seeing women who got pulsatilla
because that was *called for* by their presenting picture--and seeing
incidentally, that it also caused the presentation to right itself. So
my first thought (and apologies if this is only stating the obvious...)
would be--take her case; does Puls seem indicated elsewhere? If so, it
should be an easy call to give it; if not, why not first give "the
indicated remedy" and see whether that does the trick? (I have zero
actual experience with this issue... Am only offering my FWIW
thoughts.)
Shannon


Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.
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Re: breach babies

Post by Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D. »

That's a good approach, Shannon. I can attest that giving Puls without taking the case, just to "turn the baby" is not necessarily effective. I've been asked to provide it a couple of times by people whose thinking on remedies is basically allopathic -- as one might expect, using the remedy in that way doesn't necessarily work.
Rosemary

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Peter Boehm
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Re: breach babies

Post by Peter Boehm »

Hi

It often does the trick! another rem to think of is Tuberculinum, which also can help- of course there should be some symptoms to guide.

few own experience, some from my patients treated by hom. midwifes .

Here in Germany Dr. Friedrich Graf has a lot of experience, who has been teaching hundreds of midwifes over the years.
afaik none of his books have been translated.

Peter

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Shannon Nelson
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Re: breach babies

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Peter,
Just as a point of curiosity--are you saying that it often works *even*
if the patient is not presenting any (other) recognizable pulsatilla
symptoms (or referring to instances where it was given without finding
out the rest of case?
Shannon


Suriya
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Re: breach babies

Post by Suriya »

it's mentioned by Allen in his Handbook and by Hering, Guiding symptoms:
I have used Pulsatilla for restoring normal uterine tone and in two cases the results are positive
In one case a woman who previously had retained placenta for each birth now had a normal birth and normal expulsion.
In another , a breech presentation became cephalic 3 days before delivery. I gave the remedy a few days before the turn.

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Shannon Nelson
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Re: breach babies

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Suriya--
I would like to ask you the same question: Can you say whether the
women in which you saw it work also had *other* symptoms of pulsatilla?
Shannon


suriya56
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Re: breach babies

Post by suriya56 »

Dear Shannon

Yes indeed they did. I did not prescribe Pulsatilla empirically but
based on Similimum.
It did not include the constitutional picture , only the symptom picture

regards

Suriya
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