Joint replacements
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Rosemary C Hyde PhD
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Joint replacements
I'm realizing that, in the US at least, the incidence of this type of surgery is increasing rapidly and dramatically. I wonder if anyone on the list has experience treating after-effects of such surgeries, what your experience has been in terms of resolving symptoms and hastening recovery, and what remedies you've used. Obviously the affected clients are folks who go for surgery, and then come later hoping for help with aftereffects, rather than seeking homeopathic treatment first and considering the surgery as a last resort. In fact, "elective" surgeries of all kinds seem to be seeing a huge increase in acceptance in this country -- interesting.
Rosemary
Rosemary
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Joint replacements
Rosemary C Hyde PhD wrote:
surgery is increasing rapidly and dramatically. I wonder if anyone on
the list has experience treating after-effects of such surgeries>
My mother of approx 70 yrs, had a half-knee "replacement" surgery. I had
a friend who was administrator of an orthopaedic children's hospital at
the time, and she directed me to the best surgeon for the job. People
went to Cape Town from all over the world to get his quality work on a
knee - he specialized in this.
A short fellow who went about in khaki shorts, who had a good sense
of humour and no small amount of confidence in his own skill - he had my
mom walk away from him and back towards him. "Well Mrs Hulbert, you're
awfully knock-kneed on the right aren't you?" My old fashioned mom was a
but shocked at the cavalier approach of the khaki shorts and rude
knock-kneed suggestion compared with her own (useless) doctor's usual
cordial cup of Earl Grey tea and scones type consultation.
But I found out why so many people went to this surgeon. Mom was the
only South African of four folks he operated on next day. I have a poor
memory but I think his name may have been Erasmus.
The day after mom's surgery it went this way:
First I should mention half a knee requires a lot more skill than a
total knee as the artificial bearing half has to be set up in complete
balance with the other half - too thick or thin would be a disaster. But
this is less invasive when one half is still functional.
The day after the surgery I had a look at the surgery scar. It was
hard to find it! There was no swelling to speak of either. There was a
faint thin line down the center of the knee, extending some distance
above and below. An Op-site type transparent dressing was over the area.
I was amazed.
Also, mom was walking already! a little limp was there the first day -
but not a lot - and it was soon gone. I could hardly believe my eyes.
She never looked back. The knee was still fine when she died at age
84, and except that she could no longer sit on her legs as she was wont
to do to appear taller in a chair - you'd not know she had had any knee
work at all. (The knee did not bend quite all the way to allow that -
and the surgeon had warned her about it in advance.)
Her only other problem after the surgery was going through metal
detectors once in a while. She had to carry a letter of explanation
about why she "beeped", to cover the titanium involved.
So I suppose this is a testament to "replacement" surgery well done.
Homeopathy is perhaps only really needed when the mechanics is not so
expertly done?
In which case I'd use remedies according to what was damaged.
>
I've done both personally.
My first knee issue was helped by surgery, though it was not so much a
"replacement" as a major overhaul and redesign. I feel one small part of
it in bad weather - just the tendon over the patella which is split down
the middle so as to go half each side the kneecap when I bend the knee,
to help keep the patella from going sideways. I feel where the split
starts and ends in bad weather - it's like a built-in barometer. and it
fools doctors looking for a reflex reaction by tapping my knee:-))
It was physiotherapy that got me walking properly - about 4 years
later. The physio took only a week to get me walking well.
Many years later, after a fall carrying a heavy load down stairs, I had
a torn meniscus cartilage - same knee. No money for surgery at the time
- and I had the knee fixed by Reiki instead, courtesy of a kitten client
in Holland.
Not homeopathy, but still energy healing. It took 20 mins a day for 5
days to fix.
It's awfully hard to beat energy as a healing method.
But good quality surgery also has a LOT to be said for it.
NAmaste,
IRene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
surgery is increasing rapidly and dramatically. I wonder if anyone on
the list has experience treating after-effects of such surgeries>
My mother of approx 70 yrs, had a half-knee "replacement" surgery. I had
a friend who was administrator of an orthopaedic children's hospital at
the time, and she directed me to the best surgeon for the job. People
went to Cape Town from all over the world to get his quality work on a
knee - he specialized in this.
A short fellow who went about in khaki shorts, who had a good sense
of humour and no small amount of confidence in his own skill - he had my
mom walk away from him and back towards him. "Well Mrs Hulbert, you're
awfully knock-kneed on the right aren't you?" My old fashioned mom was a
but shocked at the cavalier approach of the khaki shorts and rude
knock-kneed suggestion compared with her own (useless) doctor's usual
cordial cup of Earl Grey tea and scones type consultation.
But I found out why so many people went to this surgeon. Mom was the
only South African of four folks he operated on next day. I have a poor
memory but I think his name may have been Erasmus.
The day after mom's surgery it went this way:
First I should mention half a knee requires a lot more skill than a
total knee as the artificial bearing half has to be set up in complete
balance with the other half - too thick or thin would be a disaster. But
this is less invasive when one half is still functional.
The day after the surgery I had a look at the surgery scar. It was
hard to find it! There was no swelling to speak of either. There was a
faint thin line down the center of the knee, extending some distance
above and below. An Op-site type transparent dressing was over the area.
I was amazed.
Also, mom was walking already! a little limp was there the first day -
but not a lot - and it was soon gone. I could hardly believe my eyes.
She never looked back. The knee was still fine when she died at age
84, and except that she could no longer sit on her legs as she was wont
to do to appear taller in a chair - you'd not know she had had any knee
work at all. (The knee did not bend quite all the way to allow that -
and the surgeon had warned her about it in advance.)
Her only other problem after the surgery was going through metal
detectors once in a while. She had to carry a letter of explanation
about why she "beeped", to cover the titanium involved.
So I suppose this is a testament to "replacement" surgery well done.
Homeopathy is perhaps only really needed when the mechanics is not so
expertly done?
In which case I'd use remedies according to what was damaged.
>
I've done both personally.
My first knee issue was helped by surgery, though it was not so much a
"replacement" as a major overhaul and redesign. I feel one small part of
it in bad weather - just the tendon over the patella which is split down
the middle so as to go half each side the kneecap when I bend the knee,
to help keep the patella from going sideways. I feel where the split
starts and ends in bad weather - it's like a built-in barometer. and it
fools doctors looking for a reflex reaction by tapping my knee:-))
It was physiotherapy that got me walking properly - about 4 years
later. The physio took only a week to get me walking well.
Many years later, after a fall carrying a heavy load down stairs, I had
a torn meniscus cartilage - same knee. No money for surgery at the time
- and I had the knee fixed by Reiki instead, courtesy of a kitten client
in Holland.
Not homeopathy, but still energy healing. It took 20 mins a day for 5
days to fix.
It's awfully hard to beat energy as a healing method.
But good quality surgery also has a LOT to be said for it.
NAmaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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always.question
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Re: Joint replacements
Additional question: I have heard that once there is an implant of some
kind, giving Silica can cause problems. Seems to make sense from the VF
point of view - expelling a foreign body etc. Has anyone come across
this effect in an actual case?
Suse
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wrote:
surgery is increasing rapidly and dramatically. I wonder if anyone on
the list has experience treating after-effects of such surgeries, what
your experience has been in terms of resolving symptoms and hastening
recovery, and what remedies you've used. Obviously the affected clients
are folks who go for surgery, and then come later hoping for help with
aftereffects, rather than seeking homeopathic treatment first and
considering the surgery as a last resort. In fact, "elective" surgeries
of all kinds seem to be seeing a huge increase in acceptance in this
country -- interesting.
kind, giving Silica can cause problems. Seems to make sense from the VF
point of view - expelling a foreign body etc. Has anyone come across
this effect in an actual case?
Suse
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Rosemary C Hyde PhD"
wrote:
surgery is increasing rapidly and dramatically. I wonder if anyone on
the list has experience treating after-effects of such surgeries, what
your experience has been in terms of resolving symptoms and hastening
recovery, and what remedies you've used. Obviously the affected clients
are folks who go for surgery, and then come later hoping for help with
aftereffects, rather than seeking homeopathic treatment first and
considering the surgery as a last resort. In fact, "elective" surgeries
of all kinds seem to be seeing a huge increase in acceptance in this
country -- interesting.
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Irene de Villiers
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- Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:00 pm
Re: Joint replacements
always.question wrote:
I can not imagine Sil removing something that is working. It addresses
what is NOT working and which is causing consternation to the immune system.
Implants like joint "replacement" parts, are inert and do not concern
the immune system. So there are not symptoms to match energetically.
This is unlike say a splinter that needs to be removed and which does
concern the immune system and does cause symptoms - and will be helped
by Sil.
Namaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
I can not imagine Sil removing something that is working. It addresses
what is NOT working and which is causing consternation to the immune system.
Implants like joint "replacement" parts, are inert and do not concern
the immune system. So there are not symptoms to match energetically.
This is unlike say a splinter that needs to be removed and which does
concern the immune system and does cause symptoms - and will be helped
by Sil.
Namaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Rosemary C Hyde PhD
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Re: Joint replacements
I can tell you from experience that Silica does not appear to damage or
interfere with any implants that are already safely incorporated into the
physical system. I wouldn't want to give it, however, with any new implants
before they've been assimiliated by the body.
I had a dramatic experience with the expulsive powers of Silica when I gave
it as the remedy indicated by symptoms to a patient who was experiencing
nausea as a result of injected blood thinning drugs. It stopped the nausea
like a dream, and the patient immediately started forming granulomas around
the injected matter. Instead of being distributed, the subcutaneous doses
simply became hardened lumps under the skin!! We never found another remedy
that worked as well for the nausea, and finally, they found a substitute
drug to give to the patient by mouth rather than injection.
Rosemary
interfere with any implants that are already safely incorporated into the
physical system. I wouldn't want to give it, however, with any new implants
before they've been assimiliated by the body.
I had a dramatic experience with the expulsive powers of Silica when I gave
it as the remedy indicated by symptoms to a patient who was experiencing
nausea as a result of injected blood thinning drugs. It stopped the nausea
like a dream, and the patient immediately started forming granulomas around
the injected matter. Instead of being distributed, the subcutaneous doses
simply became hardened lumps under the skin!! We never found another remedy
that worked as well for the nausea, and finally, they found a substitute
drug to give to the patient by mouth rather than injection.
Rosemary
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Joint replacements
Hi Suse,
Apparently this is one of homeopathy's "urban myths", or an example of
something that *sounded* right (silica being such a great expeller,
right?), but is based on faulty reasoning, *not* on observation.
Periodically over the years there has been discussion about this, and
to the best of my memory *no one* has given any example of an instance
where silica caused expulsion of anything untoward. There were a
couple of examples of fillings being expelled--but in each case there
was very good reason to believe that the tooth was already infected or
damaged, and the filling was "dead meat" already.
Sheilagh Creasy gives her decades of experience to the effect that she
has *never* seen silica cause trouble by expelling anything that should
have been retained; that if silica is indicated in the case, that is
what she gives--regardless of implants and etc.; never any problem.
It's also been pointed out that *any* indicated remedy (that is,
indicated by the particulars of the case) can cause expulsion of
*inappropriately* retained material such as splinters etc., because it
(whether silica or another indicated remedy) is simply stimulating the
body to do what it *ought* to have been doing anyway--expelling the
foreign material. So, silica and implants--no worries!
Just yesterday I was reading (argh, where?!?) comparison between this
situation and that of organ transplantation. In that case, the new
part *is* viewed by the body as foreign, and the body *will* try to
reject it, hence the need for lifelong immune suppressing drugs. So
(the writer noted) it could be a problem to treat a transplant patient
with homeopathy, since if the vital force / immune system is
strengthened enough it could overcome the immune suppressing drugs and
lead to rejection of the implant. That's a sobering idea. Anyone
know--is it possible to use homeopathy with someone on immune
suppressing drugs, e.g. for an organ transplant?
Shannon
Apparently this is one of homeopathy's "urban myths", or an example of
something that *sounded* right (silica being such a great expeller,
right?), but is based on faulty reasoning, *not* on observation.
Periodically over the years there has been discussion about this, and
to the best of my memory *no one* has given any example of an instance
where silica caused expulsion of anything untoward. There were a
couple of examples of fillings being expelled--but in each case there
was very good reason to believe that the tooth was already infected or
damaged, and the filling was "dead meat" already.
Sheilagh Creasy gives her decades of experience to the effect that she
has *never* seen silica cause trouble by expelling anything that should
have been retained; that if silica is indicated in the case, that is
what she gives--regardless of implants and etc.; never any problem.
It's also been pointed out that *any* indicated remedy (that is,
indicated by the particulars of the case) can cause expulsion of
*inappropriately* retained material such as splinters etc., because it
(whether silica or another indicated remedy) is simply stimulating the
body to do what it *ought* to have been doing anyway--expelling the
foreign material. So, silica and implants--no worries!
Just yesterday I was reading (argh, where?!?) comparison between this
situation and that of organ transplantation. In that case, the new
part *is* viewed by the body as foreign, and the body *will* try to
reject it, hence the need for lifelong immune suppressing drugs. So
(the writer noted) it could be a problem to treat a transplant patient
with homeopathy, since if the vital force / immune system is
strengthened enough it could overcome the immune suppressing drugs and
lead to rejection of the implant. That's a sobering idea. Anyone
know--is it possible to use homeopathy with someone on immune
suppressing drugs, e.g. for an organ transplant?
Shannon
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always.question
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Re: Joint replacements
Thanks for those thoughts - was thinking along the similar lines but
felt other view would make theoretical sense, hence Q about actual
experience of incidences (cf aph 6). Second the request for
info/experiences re organ transplants, would be v interesting to hear
about. Like the term 'homeoapthic urban myths' - anything else people
think falls under that heading?
Suse
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felt other view would make theoretical sense, hence Q about actual
experience of incidences (cf aph 6). Second the request for
info/experiences re organ transplants, would be v interesting to hear
about. Like the term 'homeoapthic urban myths' - anything else people
think falls under that heading?
Suse
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robert & Shannon Nelson
wrote:
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Re: Joint replacements
had a 29 yr old client with a titanium rod in his tibia. he came to me with sores on his tongue. remedies didn't seem to have any effect. he had the rod removed and the sores went away
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Joint replacements
i have had questions about the toxicity of titanium
in the body. they are using it a lot in bridge work
these years. your client's case seems to clearly
make the point about the toxicity of this metal (and
probably all metals used for repair in the body)
what are others thoughts/experiences with this.
tanya
in the body. they are using it a lot in bridge work
these years. your client's case seems to clearly
make the point about the toxicity of this metal (and
probably all metals used for repair in the body)
what are others thoughts/experiences with this.
tanya

