Bad menses pain

[Irene de Villiers]

I would like to go further back than the needed hormones and
homeopathy - and first correct the nutrition and vitamin and other
nutrient balance.
The start of PMS and other menses imbalances is this nutrient
imbalance. Vit B6 is the number one culprit, as it is needed in high
amount premenstrually and during pregnancy (hence "morning"
sickness) . But long-term depletion of B6 then leads to a multitude
of other problems as the body tries to cope with the B6 lack, in all
the multitude of places where it is necessary.

So I would start with nutrition, and only after correcting it, check
hormone balance (which after all is out of whack because the nutrient
raw materials were missing.) Hormones in my book are an end product -
and I prefer to correct the basic building blocks for those end
products - the nutrients - all 40 or so of them, rather than playing
with end products and not correcting the maintaining cause.

Namaste,
IRene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[eternalhealth]

Absolutely agree- but this as list is supposed to stick mainly to homeopathic remedies I chose not to incite further comment-
Rochelle, sometimes there is a thyroid component in PMT. It also depends if the contraceptive pill has been used as it may cause an increase in plasma tyrosin trans-aminase activity and a fall in plasma tyrosine levels mid cycle.
other nutrients to look at would include fish oils, niacin, magnesium esp. and possibly calcium, zinc
Diet is very important - there sould usually be rich sources of linoleic acid i..e sunflower seeds and low animal fat/dairy.
Beverly
www.eternalhealthconcepts.com
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[Rochelle]

Dear Irene,
Thanks for that. I will tell her to take B6 (I recommend 100mg a day except
when menstruating as it can increase the flow) if she is not ready but this
is a woman who is careful about her diet, has a good diet, probably organic
when possible. I think she is veggie. She also exercises regularly for
fitness although she is very slim.

Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Irene de Villiers]

eternalhealth@optusnet.com.au wrote:
homeopathic remedies

???

I believe this list is about homeopathy - not about homeopathic remedies
alone.
As Hahnemann says in the Organon (and that IS homeopathy) one must
remove the maintaining cause:-)
So I think the nutrition is relevant here, being a maintaining cause.
)

I agree with much of this - not all:

depends if the contraceptive pill has been used as it may cause an
increase in plasma tyrosin trans-aminase activity and a fall in plasma
tyrosine levels mid cycle.
esp.

YEs magnesium is almost guaranteed undersupplied and it is associated
with Vit B6 - each helping to absorb the other for example. I've yet to
meet anyone who gets enough Mg without taking supplements:-)

linoleic acid i..e sunflower seeds and low animal fat/dairy.

I do not agree with the sunflower oil at all.
I'd recommend extra virgin olive oil along with avoidance of other plant
oils.
ALL the seed oils - like sunflower - are far too high in inflammatory
omega-6 and have no omega-9 to speak of. EV olive has the omega-9 and
without the inflammatory overdose of omega-6.
Omega-3 should come from fish oil which you did mention.

An anti-inflamamtory diet (see Dr N Perricone's books) -
anti-inflammatory at cell level - with lots of antioxidants and no
infammatory foods - is a great way to build health.
Too much carbohydrate and sugar and too little antioxidant and correct
ratio fatty acids imbalance the system - as does insufficient good
quality animal protein.

Namaste,
IRene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

rochelle wrote:

According to?
I have searched the National Library of Medicine for any reference to
this idea and find none.
B6 can reduce clotting causing less discomfort, but the total flow is
determined by the build-up of the uterus *before* menstruation (in
preparation for potential embryo implantation), and the level of prior
buildup can not be changed *during* menstruation.

B6 is MOST useful however in the week before the start of menstruation
as that is when supplies are lowest. B6 is destroyed by many things
(smoking, medicines, coffee, etc) - as well as being used up under
stress - so the amount needed depends partly on how fast it is destroyed
or used up.
A lot of women have what they think is a good diet - but when analysed
it is found to be very deficient after all - especially a vegetarian
diet. To know it's good, requires one analyse a typical day's intake for
ALL nutrients - using the USDA Tables of Food analysis for example - and
comparing to MDR or at least RDA for each (and those RDA/MDR lists are
lousy low suggested values - based on what the govt thinks a poor person
might find in food - rather than optimum health ones).
Also it's important that soy is a big no-no and most vegetarians live
on it - it's a guarantee of chronic poor health to follow.

Namaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Rochelle]

Dear Beverly,
This patient has not been on the pill and not used contraception for the last 10 years as she would like to have a child. As I said I believe this patient does watch what she eats and may even take supplements. I will ask her.
Irene - I will check about the Magnesium. I don't know where I got that information about B6 and menstruation - just one of those things I must have been told and have regurgitated!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[eternalhealth]

Irene,

I apreciate your comments and haven't time to go into it further than I have below as I am busy in clinic

As we all know there are 2 essential fatty acids - polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) that cannot be made in the body - linoleic acid and alpha-linolenic acid. They must be provided by diet. In the body both can be converted to other PUFAs such as arachidonic acid, or eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA).

They are of course needed to maintain the membranes of all cells and to make prostaglandins which regulate many body processes including inflammation and blood clotting; for regulating body cholesterol metabolism and to enable the fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E and K to be absorbed from food.

The fatty acids caproic acid, capric acid, caprylic acid, lauric acid, and ricinoleic acid can be directly produced only from a vegetable source: . palmitic acid, myristic acid, stearic acid, and oleic acid can be produced from both animal and vegetable sources:

We need both omega 3 [flaxseed and fish oils and other food sources for alpha-linoleic acid] and 6 and 9 and yes sunflower oil has higher omega 6 but it is one of the excellent sources of the essential fatty acid linoleic acid having about 48-78%. Olive oil has much smaller amounts in it although as we know it is excellent for the body being high in omega 9 [monosaturated, non essential fatty acid - Oleic acid comprises 55-80% of olive oil though there may be only 0.5-2.5% or so as actual free acid; in grapeseed oil there is approx 15-20% . we also know that omega 9 being mono-saturated has only one double bond that can be attacked by oxygen so is less susceptible to oxidative stress than polyunsaturated omega 3's and 6's which need more antioxidant protection. and prompt consumption.

Obviously we need balance.

Sunflower seeds instead of the oil itself can be a very good part of the diet.
regards
Beverly
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[eternalhealth]

Rochelle
any number of things can contribute to the situation, stress, unknown food sensitivities, malabsorption, gut dysbiosis but it gets down to how you are going to treat the situation. If you have checked for food sensitivies, you have basic nutrients under control and are feeding the gut then that leaves as contributing factors possibly hormonal situation i.e thyroid and estrogen/progesterone imbalance for whatever reason and nervous system amongst others to address. Even if her diet is 'good' compared to others and even if organic many other factors come into play.
regards
Beverly
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[always.question]

Hi Rochelle,

I have't read all of the posts on here, but as there is some endometrial tissue and endo is often responsible for horrendous abdominal pains, have a look at this link:

http://www.bar-do.net/endo-final-1-1.html

I found this a couple of years ago and just now on checking whether the link still works realised that this is Louise Kunkle's website (so thank you to Louise for putting it out there). It's an excellent article, good background, good MM.

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[Rochelle]

Thanks for that and I have already tried to use this document when trying to sort the case. I have corresponded with and even met Suriya when I was in Malaysia last year. Her and her husband met my husband and I and we spent the day together. I have actually sent her the case but she has not responded as yet. She maybe is away or changed her email address .
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk