Testing the rem before prescribing: one more way. From this issue of Homeopathy 4 Everyone (you've probably all seen, sorry for duplicate message, it's just so COOL!). Best, Margaret
http://www.hpathy.com/papersnew/winsor- ... chines.asp
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One doctor was tested by Dr. Voll before lunch and found to have some serious heart problems. After lunch they were going to try and determine the extent of his problem and then suggest a treatment program for him. But when they returned and tried to continue the testing, all the values had returned to normal. They wondered what was happening? How could this doctor suddenly be so healthy? They took off their jackets and got to work trying to solve the mystery. And, guess what? All of the measurements were back to indicating that the doctor again had a serious heart problem. What was different? After much discussion, they discovered that the doctor was carrying his heart medication in the pocket of his suit jacket. After more trials with the doctor holding the remedy and then putting it down and then holding it again – medication testing was ‘born’.
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Electro-Acupuncture According to Dr. Voll, or EAV, been used around the world for decades, as a means of diagnosing disease and of determining treatment programs. It is not the objective method that the German doctors were seeking, but as a subjective electronic measurement method, it has become an invaluable tool in assisting homeopaths to choose treatments for their patients.
How does it work?
EAV is in essence a point based method of diagnostics. It is based on precise measurement of the many ‘acupuncture’ points with a device that has been designed and calibrated to specific electronic standards and which uses brass contact electrodes. Put simply, they are measuring the electrical resistance between a contact electrode (usually a brass cylinder held in the patient’s hand) and the brass electrode tip on a specially designed probe held by the doctor and touched to the acupuncture points of the patient. The remedies are then placed into the circuit with the patient, to measure their effect on him. Basic testing devices such as the MORA RM-10 Super can be incorporated into a homeopathic practice with relative ease. Many books and manuals are available that discuss the points, the type of disorders to be measured on each point and the usual remedies that will respond.
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Verrrrrry interesting
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Verrrrrry interesting
Hi Margaret,
Yes, it does sound cool, but...
I don't know whether anyone uses EAV to look for a single remedy, but
"back in the days" I knew a bunch of people who were very into it, and
that prescriber--as I *think* is usual for EAV (Electroacupuncure
According to Voll) users--gave each patient a bunch of remedies each
time. It was fun
, as each remedy was packaged in such a cute
and clever way--I remember tiny bottles that came with a little "saw"
to take the top off, others in tiny straws... There was quite a
variety, but I guess those were the two I enjoyed most, as that's all I
remember, tho I recall getting at least six different ones each time,
and sometimes more.
Did it work? I can't speak for the others, just don't know, but for
me, initial results were promising, but it never went anywhere in the
end--and this was before I knew of any *other* form of homeopathy, and
I gave it a good, long try. For me, results with the classical
approach were just worlds and worlds better.
Just my experience, FWIW!
Cheers,
Shannon
Yes, it does sound cool, but...
I don't know whether anyone uses EAV to look for a single remedy, but
"back in the days" I knew a bunch of people who were very into it, and
that prescriber--as I *think* is usual for EAV (Electroacupuncure
According to Voll) users--gave each patient a bunch of remedies each
time. It was fun
, as each remedy was packaged in such a cute and clever way--I remember tiny bottles that came with a little "saw"
to take the top off, others in tiny straws... There was quite a
variety, but I guess those were the two I enjoyed most, as that's all I
remember, tho I recall getting at least six different ones each time,
and sometimes more.
Did it work? I can't speak for the others, just don't know, but for
me, initial results were promising, but it never went anywhere in the
end--and this was before I knew of any *other* form of homeopathy, and
I gave it a good, long try. For me, results with the classical
approach were just worlds and worlds better.
Just my experience, FWIW!
Cheers,
Shannon
Re: Verrrrrry interesting
I would have to agree with you Shannon, I have also found the intial
results from the EAV tested remedies quite good - gave me a good idea
of some remedies that have similarities to me and the potency range
that tends to act well for me - but am not convinced about long term
effects, as in treating a person miasmatically rather than just
treating the current surface distraction. Maybe it has similarities
to those machines you can connect up to - can't remember their names -
which rebalance all your meridians - after spending a few minutes on
them you have really positive results on the EAV - but the effect
doesn't last - you keep needing more treatments.
One positive thing about them is how validating it is to see the
print out that shows you have so many systems struggling when all the
results from allopathic investigations said there was nothing wrong
with you. But on the other side, after you've had a few months of
treatment everything on the tests can look good even when you still
feel that something has been missed.
The other thing about EAV is it means you no longer have to think for
yourself - the machine does it for you - you give away responsibility
and power and the pleasure of learning and discovery, and the sense
of mastery that comes from applying your knowledge. Although I guess
there is a mastery in learning to use the machine well
Gail A.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robert & Shannon Nelson
wrote:
but
and
each
cute
little "saw"
all I
time,
for
the
and
issue of
duplicate
some
what was
took off
guess
doctor
heart
with
around
that
based on
device
standards
brass
and
are
effect
of
that
results from the EAV tested remedies quite good - gave me a good idea
of some remedies that have similarities to me and the potency range
that tends to act well for me - but am not convinced about long term
effects, as in treating a person miasmatically rather than just
treating the current surface distraction. Maybe it has similarities
to those machines you can connect up to - can't remember their names -
which rebalance all your meridians - after spending a few minutes on
them you have really positive results on the EAV - but the effect
doesn't last - you keep needing more treatments.
One positive thing about them is how validating it is to see the
print out that shows you have so many systems struggling when all the
results from allopathic investigations said there was nothing wrong
with you. But on the other side, after you've had a few months of
treatment everything on the tests can look good even when you still
feel that something has been missed.
The other thing about EAV is it means you no longer have to think for
yourself - the machine does it for you - you give away responsibility
and power and the pleasure of learning and discovery, and the sense
of mastery that comes from applying your knowledge. Although I guess
there is a mastery in learning to use the machine well
Gail A.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robert & Shannon Nelson
wrote:
but
and
each
cute
little "saw"
all I
time,
for
the
and
issue of
duplicate
some
what was
took off
guess
doctor
heart
with
around
that
based on
device
standards
brass
and
are
effect
of
that
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Luise Kunkle
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Verrrrrry interesting
Hi Shannon,
I have never used the method and do not know much about it.
But years ago there was on the German list a MD who worked that way
(he eventually left the same way, for the same reason that
"non-classicals" have left the English language lists). But while he
in the discussion it was very interesting.
Well, one thing that came out, probably the most important, was that
for being a good EAV therapist you need lots of knowledge and
experience also.
The reason I myself have never got more interested in it is because of
my background in TCM. I could not agree to the theory that the circuit
to certain acupuncture points really would express what the EAV people
claim it does.
This same applies, for me, to kinesiology/muscle testing, of which I
did learn quite a bit more than of EAV. The same theoretical
objections - (which are OT to this list:-)
Regards
Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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I have never used the method and do not know much about it.
But years ago there was on the German list a MD who worked that way
(he eventually left the same way, for the same reason that
"non-classicals" have left the English language lists). But while he
in the discussion it was very interesting.
Well, one thing that came out, probably the most important, was that
for being a good EAV therapist you need lots of knowledge and
experience also.
The reason I myself have never got more interested in it is because of
my background in TCM. I could not agree to the theory that the circuit
to certain acupuncture points really would express what the EAV people
claim it does.
This same applies, for me, to kinesiology/muscle testing, of which I
did learn quite a bit more than of EAV. The same theoretical
objections - (which are OT to this list:-)
Regards
Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
==========> ICQ yinyang 96391801 <==========