cushing syndrome?@Irene

[Irene de Villiers]

Jean Doherty wrote:

It's not necessary to surmise - there is a proving - it's listed in O A
Julian's repertory.
Euphoria according to?????
(Anything but!)
That's not one I've seen among the couple hundred cushings sufferers on
my Cushings support group list.
The responses to high cortisol are exaggerated but not euphoric -
there's a difference.
There will be tears triggered by far less of a trigger than normal - and
excitement (but not euphoria) triggered also by far less of a trigger
than normal - a doorbell or phone ringing. Either the depression extreme
or the high anxiety excitement extreme can be triggered by relatively
small things - cortisol causes an extreme version of the normal response
to stimuli.
The depression extreme is triggered by the extreme tiredness and
lack of energy - due to the extreme effort needed just to exist at all.
Cortisol uses up a great deal of oxygen, breaks down tissues, leaves
the individual exhausted in a very intense way, every muscle, every
fiber is achingly tired. Just getting up from sitting takes immense
energy and effort for example. Walking across a room can make the person
ready to fall over and collapse from lack of breath and exhaustion.
The excitement extreme feels the way one feels after getting huge
fright (and indeed can trigger heart attacks) but is triggered by
relatively small things - and can escalate very easily if any kind of
stressful situation can not be escaped and avoided immediately and the
use of calming techniques used. This stress situation then can trigger
even more over-reaction - including yelling and crying in frustration
for example.

Neither extreme is any fun!
It's not euphoric!

NAmaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

I'm sorry I don't remember who wrote this but I have a few comments:
Intelligent people can change their minds when presented with a sensible
argument - such as that to repertorize correctly and get well a
diagnosis IS required.
A childish approach which a homeopath should overcome IMO.
Whatever they have got - they Do have it - and thinking they have the
wrong thing can cause them to die of it - with or without homeopathy as
it will be misdirected.
Knowing what it is, can help them restore health from it.
So do they want to get healthy or not?

Are you sure they are not afraid of the drugs or treatment rather than
just the diagnosis?
IF so they can state they will be going elsewhere for a 2nd opinion -
and the 1st opinion then will not push the treatment aspect.
You mean isopathic?
How is that going to help?
As far as I can tell, every case of cushings is different and needs a
properly chosen repertorized remedy. It's very hard to get one to work
at all due to the immune system damage from the steroid - but all the
MORE reason to choose the remedy really well.

Cortisol or cortisone remedy MIGHT be helpful to undo some
cortisone/cortisol damage (not to restore health and resistance however)
but even that use of it IMO would be experimental and iffy at best.

Namaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Jean Doherty]

I take your point that if suffer from Cushings euphoria is unlikely. People can exhibit it when put on high dose of Cortisone and Cortisone Psychosis is not unknown and if so could it not be in the provings. I must find a Julian's. Thank you for such a good picture of Cushing's, Best Wishes Jean

[Joy Lucas]

You are a mischief maker Irene, you know I wrote that post and your comments are misguided.

I have many clients who (thankfully in lots of cases) refuse conventional medical approaches. This can be for lots of reasons - invasions of the body and spirit in an uncomfortable manner, fear of diagnosis that can be right or wrong but the amplification can trigger a << of their lifestyle, total lack of faith in conventional approaches bordering on complete disdain and of course a preference, nay an insistence, to work with homeopathy, etc.

My position is that I always tend towards encouraging diagnostic testing but it has to be the client's choice as I am not about to bully anyone into anything and on top of that a diagnosis doesn't change the homeopathic picture.

These 2 clients have more that a bit of knowledge on medical matters so who are you to comment on my clients approach - diagnosis or not will not change the homeopathic picture. It is our duty to know as much as possible about the diseased state in anyone and knowing what organs are involved is part of this but I am not about to go and prescribe unproven sarcodes like yourself on a medical diagnosis whilst at the same time ignoring the homeopathic picture.

My post was to offer a presentation of 2 cases that I am sure will be interesting as all cases are and you need to know you don't have the first and last say on cushings.

You really don't need to tell me how to practice either Irene.

Joy

woman who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it!

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/provings

[robin9168]

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robert & Shannon Nelson
wrote:

In one case good classical, in another a combination of classical and
sarcodes and other support remedies. In my cases single remedy
prescribing.

[Sarvadaman Oberoi]

Dear Jean,

There are two provings of Cortisonum, first in 1953 and the second in 1966.

Cortisonum (cortisone acetate, C23H30O6, C21H28O5, cortiso.) (W.L. Templeton 1953, B.K. Sarkar 1966)
For more detail may see extracts.

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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Irene de Villiers
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:05 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] cushing syndrome?@Irene

Jean Doherty wrote:

It's not necessary to surmise - there is a proving - it's listed in O A
Julian's repertory.
Euphoria according to?????
(Anything but!)
That's not one I've seen among the couple hundred cushings sufferers on
my Cushings support group list.
The responses to high cortisol are exaggerated but not euphoric -
there's a difference.
There will be tears triggered by far less of a trigger than normal - and
excitement (but not euphoria) triggered also by far less of a trigger
than normal - a doorbell or phone ringing. Either the depression extreme
or the high anxiety excitement extreme can be triggered by relatively
small things - cortisol causes an extreme version of the normal response
to stimuli.
The depression extreme is triggered by the extreme tiredness and
lack of energy - due to the extreme effort needed just to exist at all.
Cortisol uses up a great deal of oxygen, breaks down tissues, leaves
the individual exhausted in a very intense way, every muscle, every
fiber is achingly tired. Just getting up from sitting takes immense
energy and effort for example. Walking across a room can make the person
ready to fall over and collapse from lack of breath and exhaustion.
The excitement extreme feels the way one feels after getting huge
fright (and indeed can trigger heart attacks) but is triggered by
relatively small things - and can escalate very easily if any kind of
stressful situation can not be escaped and avoided immediately and the
use of calming techniques used. This stress situation then can trigger
even more over-reaction - including yelling and crying in frustration
for example.

Neither extreme is any fun!
It's not euphoric!

EXTRACTS

JULIAN O. A., Materia Medica of New Homeopathic Remedies (jl1)

Cortisonum

CORTISONE AND CORTICOIDS

Source

Cortisone , or Kendall's compound "E", is : 17 Hydroxy-11-dehydrocortocosterone, formula C21H28O5; molecular weight = 360.46; melting point = 218-220°.

Cortisone is used in an acetate form, and is prepared today by synthesis.

It is a cortico-suprarenal hormone, belonging to the group of 11 steroids or 11-oxycorticosteroid hormones.

Its fundamental properties are : promotion of the formation of glycogen; diminution of the use of glucides by the tissues, negation of the nitrogen balance, elevation of urinary elimination of uric acid; of creatine (without any change in the level of creatinine in the urine), and of potassium; sodium retention, varying action on the urinary elimination of phosphorous and calcium; degeneration of the lymphoid organs, with lymphocytopenia; increase of globulins in the plasma, and inhibition of conjunctival inflammatory reactions.

In addition, it inhibits the production of A.C. T.H. , and produces atrophy of the suprarenal cortex.

It gives the impression of wellbeing and euphoria, but there is the possibility of maniacal or depressive psychological complaints.

The Corticoids are a group of synthetic bodies whose action is analagous to that of Cortisone, but with greater power at equal weight, and, theoretically, with greater tolerance.

In fact, all corticoids can bring about irregularities, namely : perforation of gastric and duodenal ulcer, gastric and duodenal haemorrhaging, psychological complaints, virilism, acne, osteoporosis, diminution of resistance to infections and to tuberculosis, amenorrhoea, and Cushing's syndrome.

Prednisone and prednisolone (delta-cortisone and delta-hydrocortisone) cause less retention of water and salt, and less potassium reduction in the blood than cortisone, but on the other hand, can be the cause of myopathy.

Amongst the corticoids, the following can be distinguished :

Hydrocortisone , 17 - hydroxycorticosterone.

Delta-cortisone , derived from cortisone by dehydrogenation in position 1 and 2 (cortancyl).

Delta-hydrocortisone (hydrocortancyl).

Dexamethasone , fluorine 9-a-trihydroxy-11 b-17a21 methyl 16 a dioxo 3-20, deltacortisone 1.4 (Decadron).

Delta-methyl-deltacortisone , 16-beta-methyl-delta-1-cortisone (Betalon, Betnesol).

Methyl-beta-delta-hydrocortisone (Medrol).

Triamcinolone , fluorine 9 and hydroxy-16 and delta-1-dehydrocortisone.

Below is given the Hahnemannian proving for cortisone, and a short clinical symptomatology for the corticoids.

Hahnemannian symptomatology of cortisone

The Hahnemannian proving of cortisone was carried out during May and June 1963 (1953?) by W. L. Templeton on eight provers and five controls, using the potencies 6c, 12c and 30c, prepared by A. Nelson and Co. Ltd., from the substance supplied by Organon Ltd.

Generalities

Allergic (psoric ) types , slow and irritable , with a dull psyche .

Suitable especially, but not exclusively, for carbonic types and for Bernard's fat Sulphur types.

Subjects fleshy, with round face, sad, weeping for no reason.

Mind

Psychological

Euphoria, quick changes of mood.

Alternation of excitability with increased activity, and a state of fatigue with weariness.

Heavy , confused , irritable , impatient .

Action calms him.

Memory weak, mental effort arduous, aggravating the general condition.

Difficulty in concentrating.

Thoughts of death, melancholic state.

Nervous

Headache , as from a band around the head .

Sensation of frontal and occipital rending.

Pain stronger around the right eye and forehead.

Pain aggravated by pressure, heat, movement, sun.

Ameliorated in the open air.

Pulsating headache around the right eye, the vertex, and the left side of the occiput.

Vertigo , aggravated in a warm room .

Sleep light, easily disturbed, does not refresh him.

Agitated, cannot sleep, wakes tired.

Endocrine

Face round, puffy, "moon-faced".

Legs swollen , with oedema .

Skin and mucous membranes dry.

Slowness of the body and of the mind, with irritability.

Varying moods.

Morbid hunger.

Polydipsia.

Digestive system

Mouth, tongue, pharynx

Dryness of the mouth , especially in the morning .

Dryness of the throat and pharynx , worse with swallowing, ameliorated by eating warm honey.

Uvula red in colour.

Stomach, intestines, abdomen

Insatiable appetite : has "butterflies" if he does not eat.

Milk and fats provoke nausea .

Amelioration by empty swallowing; aggravated in the morning and by hot drinks.

Diarrhoea on rising in the morning, after breakfast, after a meal.

Constipation and incomplete evacuation of hard stools , in balls .

Respiratory system

Dyspnoea , aggravated in a warm room .

Heaviness behind the sternum, respiration difficult.

Short of breath from nervous irritation, from warming himself, and when in a hot room.

Laryngeal cough, with sneezing in the morning.

Cough aggravated by laughing , by becoming excited, by walking, by physical fatigue, by undressing and by shaving.

Grey, gelatinous sputum.

Sense organs

Nose

Sneezing in the morning, ameliorated by washing.

Ears

Ringing in the ears.

Eyes

Tension behind the eyeballs.

Eyeballs painful, dry, edges of the eyelids agglutinated.

Styes.

Inflammation of the inner canthus.

Foggy vision.

Accommodation difficult.

Urinary and genital organs

Urinary

Urination at night; oliguria.

Frequent, pressing micturition.

Male genital

Diminution of sexual desire.

Female genital

Amenorrhoea in young girls .

Heaviness in the lower abdomen.

Sensation of repletion in the stomach, ameliorated by menstrual flow, and by walking.

Menses copious, blood thick.

Locomotor

Dorsal pain , under the ribs on the left side, spreading to the anterior sacro-iliac region, ameliorated by movement and pressure, aggravated in a sitting position, by bending down, and in the morning.

Acute sacro-iliac pain on the right side, better when lying down or standing, worse when stooping halfway or when seated.

Dorsal pain, as if broken.

Pain between the bones.

Legs restless, not ameliorated by movement in bed.

Pain in the loin, worse when seated or lying down.

Sacro-iliac pain , as if it were about to break.

Drawing pain behind the knees .

Skin

Red streaks on the skin.

Acne of the face, shoulders and back.

Increased growth of hair in the usual places.

Dryness and irritation of the back of the hands.

Face and hands rough, rash in places, worse with the heat.

Round, raised marks, slightly hard, on the hands, ankle, cheek, and left side of the neck.

Itching rash on the legs, feet and hands.

Red rash on the lower part of the sternum, at the nail beds, and on the backs of the fingers.

Dorsum of hands cracked, chapped, with red marks.

Vesicular eruption on the backs of the hands, itching, with round marks, worse with the heat.

Skin of the thorax discoloured.

Skin streaked with weals .

Pathological findings

Retention of chloride and sodium.

Diminution of ascorbic acid.

Loss of potassium, calcium, phosphorus.

Increase of creatinine, cholesterol, uric acid.

Glycosuria.

Increase of the 17 ketosteroids and diminution of the 11 ketosteroids.

Proteinuria.

Tubular casts in the urine.

Increased production of the thrombocytes, erythroid hyperplasia, polymorphism of the leucocytes.

Modalities

Amelioration

From menstrual flow.

From walking, in the evening.

Aggravation

In the morning, from external heat, immobility, scratching, coughing and pressure.

Laterality

Predominantly on the left side.

Dosage

Potencies :

From 5c to 30c.

Principal symptoms

Tendency to obesity, with retention of water.

Unstable mood, alternating between euphoria, melancholy, and excitement.

Loss of willpower.

Right frontal and orbital pain, aggravated by the heat in a room, by pressure, and in the afternoon.

Dryness of the nasal and pharyngeal mucous membranes, with coughing, and dry, sticky eyes.

Sacro-iliac pain, as if the back were about to break.

Skin discoloured, vesicular eruption, dryness and cracking of the skin on the face and hands, with exfoliation of the nail beds.

Related remedies

Sulfur

Impatient, quarrelsome, has grandiose ideas, pain and burning eruptions.

Psorinum

Sad; periodic migraines; anxious; scabby, weeping eruptions; weakness of the back and limbs as if dislocated.

Pulsatilla

Changing, variable, weeps at the slightest trifle, alternation of smiles and tears.

Erratic pains, dry cough, congestion of the veins.

Clinical diagnosis

Generalities

Allergic conditions.

Diabetes.

Cushing's syndrome.

Resistance to infection diminished.

Premature senescence.

Mind

Depressive, melancholic conditions.

Addison's disease.

Ophthalmic migraine.

Sunstroke, heatstroke.

Dysthyroidism, with tendency to hypothyroidism (O. A. Julian).

Digestive system

Hepatic deficiency.

Spasmodic entero-colitis.

Respiratory system

Bronchitis with sputum.

Respiratory allergies.

Sense organs - nose

Allergic rhinitis (hay fever).

Sense organs - eyes

Allergic conjunctivitis.

Styes.

Urinary system

Nephrotic syndrome.

Oedema.

Female genital

Amenorrhoea in young girls.

Pelvic congestion.

Vulvar eczema.

Locomotor

Painful joints.

Osteoporosis.

Leriche's painful post-traumatic osteoporosis.

Skin

Acne; blotchiness.

Eczema with puffiness of the face.

Chapping.

Slow healing of wounds.

Lupus erythematosis.

Psoriasis.

Clinical symptomatology of corticoids

Source

This is a group of synthetic bodies whose action is analogous to that of cortisone (see above).

It can be seen that : Medrone (6 Methyl delta-hydrocortisone) causes principally aggravation of diabetes and provokes gastric and duodenal ulcers; Decadron (dexamethasone) induces necrosis of the bones and osteoporosis; and that Triamcinolone sometimes causes lack of reflex in the tendons, and muscular atrophy of the quadriceps of the lower limbs.

Generalities

General increase in appetite and weight.

Diabetes.

Aggravated infections.

Malignant chickenpox, influenza, shingles.

Acute pancreatitis.

Mind

Psychological

Psychological stimulation.

Nervous

Intra-cranial hypertension.

Headache, vomiting, bradycardia, torpor, impaired vision, vertigo and convulsions; the back of the eye reveals papillary oedema.

Endocrine

Hypercorticism : moon-faced, virilism.

Inhibition of secretion of A.C. T.H.

Goitre.

Digestive system

Gastric ulcer.

Circulatory system

Arterial hypertension.

Purpura.

Ecchymosis.

Sense organs

Eyes :

Cataract.

Locomotor

Osteoporosis.

Osteonecrosis, of the hip in particular.

Muscular atrophy of the quadriceps of the lower limbs.

Biological characteristics

Sodium retention

Loss of potassium.

Dosage

Potencies :

From 5c to 30c.

Principal symptoms

General lack of reaction (diminution of the organic reactional capacity).

Fat and water retention

Intra-cranial hypertension

Rhythmic disorders of several glands : pituitary, adrenal, pancreas.

Acrid dyspepsia, which can lead to gastric ulcers

Cataract.

Oesteoporosis.

Osteonecrosis (especially of the hip).

Related remedies

Cortisone , q.v.

Corticotrophin , q.v.

Clinical diagnosis

See the sections on Cortisone and Corticotrophin.

Also, the principal symptoms, which sum up the clinical indications at the same time.
VARMA P. N. and INDU V., Encyclopaedia of Homoeopathic Pharmacopoeia (vma2)
Cortisonum

(cortisone acetate)

C23H30O6

Mol. Wt.: 402.49

Uses: Anti-inflammatory.

Synonyms: Latin: Cortisoni acetas, cortisonum aceticum; English: Cortisone monoacetate; French: Acetate de cotisone; German: Cortisonacetat

Description: White or practically white, odourless, crystalline powder. It is stable in air. Melts at about 240oC with some decomposition. Insoluble in water, slightly soluble in alcohol. Cortisone acetate contains not less than 97.0 percent and not more than 102.0 percent of C23H30O6, calculated on the dried basis.

History and authority: Stephenson, J.: Provings Homoeopathic Pharmacopoeia of United States.

Preparation: Solution 1/1000 in strong alcohol. Trituration.

a)
Mother Solution 3x Drug strength 1/1000

Cortisone aceticum 1 g
Strong Alcohol in sufficient quantity

To make one litre of the Mother Solution.

b) Potencies: 4x and higher with Dispensing Alcohol.

c) Trituration 1x Drug Strength 1/10

Cortisone aceticum 100 g

Saccharum Lactis 900 g

To make one Kilogramme of the Trituration.

d) Potencies: 2x and higher to be Triturated. 6x may be converted to liquid 8x.

Caution: Lower potencies have side effect and should be used under physician supervision.

Prescribed dose: 3x and higher.
VERMEULEN F., Synoptic Materia Medica 2 (vml3)

Cortisonum

Cortiso.

Signs

Cortisone [from L cortex, corticis, bark].

'Compound E,' a naturally-occurring corticosteroid isolated from the adrenal cortex, or prepared from ox bile, etc, used as an anti-inflammatory agent and in the treatment of Addison's disease.

Endogenously, it is probably a metabolite of hydrocortisone but exhibits no biological activity until converted to hydrocortisone [cortisol]; it acts upon carbohydrate metabolism and influences the nutrition and growth of connective [collagenous] tissues. [Stedman's]

To the class of steroids belong sterols [e.g. , cholesterol], bile acids, adrenal hormones [e.g. , cortisone], sex hormones [such as testosterone and progesterone], vitamin D.

Corticosteroids are currently being used on a large scale in medicine, both internally and externally, in the treatment of allergic reactions, various skin diseases, rheumatoid arthritis and other inflammatory diseases by limiting their spread. The number of side-effects is proportionately large. One of the negative characteristics of these preparations is that they can reactivate latent infections and mask acute disorders, where surgical intervention may be required. They also reduce resistance to infections and can bring about disorders of the water and hormonal systems and the blood pressure, as well as osteoporosis, diabetes, peptic ulcers, hirsutism, acne, amenorrhoea and psychic disorders.

The strong suppressive effect often causes a blockage, especially in the excretory functions from skin and mucous membranes. The result is that the vital force seeks release on a deeper level of sickness.

In patients with a history of corticosteroid use [internal or external!], therefore, Cortisonum in a homoeopathic potency is necessary to regenerate the reactive capacity of the organism and subsequently enable the appropriate constitutional remedy to do its work.

Proved in 1953 by W.L. Templeton on 8 persons. [See: James Stephenson, A Materia Medica and Repertory, and O.A. Julian, Dictionary of Homoeopathic Materia Medica], and by B.K. Sarkar [see: B.K. Sarkar, Up-to-date with nosodes, Calcutta, 1966. ]

Compare

Sulphur. Psorinum. Sepia. Pulsatilla. Ribonucleinicum acidum.

Region

Endocrines. Digestion.

Leading symptoms

M Unstable mood,

alternating between euphoria, melancholy and excitement.

Alternation of excitability with increased activity and a state of fatigue with weariness.

M Irritable and impatient; amel. occupation.

Irritability when travelling too slow.

Delusion bus is going to slow.

G Fat persons with round face [like the full moon], sad mood, causeless weeping. [Julian]

Tendency to obesity with retention of water.

G Slow irritable subjects with a dull mind.

G Increased growth of hair in unusual places.

G Lack of reaction.

Weakness after acute or prostrating diseases.

and Disposition to catch cold. [Voisin]

Physical and mental slowness and irritability.

G agg. Warmth; warm room; sun; heat.

[vertigo; headache; dyspnoea; itching eruption on back of hands; rough skin of face and hands]

G Ravenous hunger.

"Has butterflies if he does not eat." [Murphy]

Faintness when hungry, esp. around noon.

G Milk and fat badly digested [= nausea].

G amel. Menses.

G Dryness of skin and mucous membranes.

Dryness of mouth in morning.

Skin of face and hands rough in patches, agg. heat.

Skin of back of hands red and cracked in patches.

G Fluid retention.

P Dullness and heaviness of head, when stomach is empty, amel. eating.

P Right-sided headaches, above right eye.

agg. Motion; pressure; warm room; sun.

amel. Open air.

Or headache as from a band around the head.

P Allergic rhinitis.

and Allergic conjunctivitis.

P Acne of face, shoulders, back.

P Sensation of fullness in hypogastrium.

amel. Menses; walking.

P Pain in sacroiliac region, agg. right side.

agg. Sitting; rising from sitting.

amel. Lying; standing; pressure; continued motion. [Voisin]

Rubrics

Mind

Cheerfulness ??? vexation [1]. Euphoria ??? sadness [1]. Excitement ??? indecision [1]. Paleness of face and insanity [1; Stram.]. Mannish habits of girls [1]. Witty talk [1].

Head

Pain, headache agg. warmth [1].

Eye

Inflammation of inner canthi [1]. Stitching pain agg. pressure [1]; stitching pain agg. thinking of it [1/1].

Nose

Sneezing in morning amel. washing [1/1].

Mouth

Dryness amel. warm drinks [1/1].

Throat

Dryness agg. empty swallowing [1/1]; amel. warm drinks [1].

Stomach

Nausea after eating fats [1]; after milk [1].

Abdomen

Gurgling as if from water [1].

Kidneys

Pain while lying [1]; when sitting [1].

Female

Menses absent in girls [1]; painful, dysmenorrhoea, amel. walking [1/1].

Cough

Undressing or uncovering body [1].

Back

Pain amel. pressure of cushion [1].

Extremities

Backs of hands cracked [1; Sep.]. Red discolouration of backs of hands, in patches [1/1]. Eruption, eczema on backs of hands [1; Mez.]; agg. warmth [1/1]. Pain at hollow of knee while standing [1]; extending to thigh [1]. Restlessness of legs not amel. by movement in bed [1].

Skin

Eruptions from sun [1]; from warmth [1/1]. Excessive growth of hair [1/1].

Generalities

Hypertension in children [1/1]. Hypothyreoidism [1]. During menses amel. [1]. Obesity [1]. Rest agg. [1]. Walking amel. [1]. Weariness in morning [1]. Wounds slow to heal [1].

Food

Aversion: Bread [1]; fish [1]; meat [1].

Desire: Eggs [1]; pickles [1]; sour [1]; spicy [1].

Worse: Fats and rich food [1]; milk [1].

Better: Warm drinks [1].

Notes

[Irene de Villiers]

Jean Doherty wrote:

Yes Jean - you are right, I had skipped over it but it is there for
cortisone..... HEre are all the mind sxs....

The Proving says - (with my comments in brackets):

"Psychic:
Euphoria, Jolly Mood
(It's the one mind sx on the list that does not match cushings as I see
it - but then as you say matches cortisone as a drug. Interesting!
Actually the "jolly mood" could be said to apply in that with cushings
one is overstimulated - but it is a false jolliness brought on by the
steroid, not due to genuine feelings of joy. It's usually followed by
exhaustion and depression.)
"ALTERNATE (emphasis theirs) excitation (and I'd call excitation a
better word than jolly or euphoria) with increased activity (and here
I'd say not necessarily physical activity but excited activity) then a
state of fatigue and lassitude (and I'd say often accompanied by
depression).
Then all stressed:
Heavy, confused, irritable, impatient. (All VERY relevant in cushings)
WANT OF ACTION for calming down his irritation (I believe they mean "in
order to calm down the irritation" and stop triggering it to escalate more).
Weak memory (that's an understatement - especially mainly short-term,
with some long-term items that are random - for example one day awake
and not remember one's own middle name and have to use alternate
thinking paths to recover it or look it up and relearn it.)
Intellectual effort painful aggravating the general condition. (This is
extreme and a good description, and makes any concentration work
impossible. Some people may manage 4 minutes at a time - others a little
more. Reading a book or being on the phone becomes impossible due to the
need to concentrate in one place, but for example driving is easier as
the concentration can wander from one thing to another and not be
*focused* in one place.)
Difficult to concentrate.
Thoughts of death. Melancholic state. (This has been described by MANY
cushing sufferers, and all or most experience it. Their spouses etc find
it very frustrating, as it occurs in those who would never normally
"want to die" or "give up". I believe it is caused by the extreme
exhaustion plus the aggravation caused by any effort to improve by
"doing something" leading to an impossible aggravating downward spiral.
My suggestion to them is to promise themselves to wait a week before
doing anything drastic such as something suicidal. Waiting and
de-stressing is the only way "out of the hole". Care-givers should not
nag as that only makes it worse - it need compassion. It helps to offer
sympathy, calmness, destressing herbs, green tea, yoga, alternatie
breating exercises, deep breating, sleep, whatever de-stresses and
removes the excessive cortisol-induced state.)
You're welcome.

NAmaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks Robin,
I do wonder why that should be!!

[Irene de Villiers]

Joy - thanks for letting me know who wrote that, I suppose I should have
looked in the archives but I have a slow dialup line.

Joy Lucas wrote:

My point was that non-invasive diagnosis - such as measuring cortisol in
urine for Cushing's syndrome - is nothing to do with conventional
approach to an illness - it's only finding out what illness is there.
How to handle it need not involve any conventional anything:-)
It doesn't matter if they know everything about medical matters - they
still need a lab test to know if they are producing too much cortisol -
or too little ACTH - or have polycytic ovaries or Hashimoto's etc as the
cause of their symptoms )
With respect that's where we disagree. Diagnosis often - in fact usually
- DOES change the homeopathic picture.

It is our duty to know as much as

I agree - and we can't know that without the diagnostic tests.

NAmaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Jean Doherty]

Thanks . All this information good to have, Jean