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Simon King LCPH MARH
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Simon King LCPH MARH »

I only know Foll from the human MM so I can't comment re Puddy Tats

Whether the French are still stuck with the 30 or not I know not either, all I know is I can't legally practice there - BWAAAH! (trans: Merde alors!)
;-)


muthu kumar
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by muthu kumar »

I never said it was either physiological or homeopathic

I said
"

Some medicines have a
physiological action (whether sarcodes or otherwise in low doses)-
like many of our mother tinctures - and this would happen irrespective
of whether indicated or not- even these will have a curative reaction
later on based on symptom similarity"

which is what you said and elaborated.

I wanted to convey that we are not supposed to be prescribing for
their physiological action but homeopathic and efforts must be towards
that.


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Irene,
Re recovering from prednisone use, some time back on another list
Suriya Osman talked about very good experiences using ACTH 6c in
helping patients recovery from steroid "therapy". She said that, in
several of her cases to that date, it brought back adrenal function
very nicely, so that might be worth considering for your "war chest"?
Best,
Shannon


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Joy,
It's worth considering that Irene is working "on the front lines" with
such a severe, fast-moving disease as FIP. Personally I am unlikely
ever to need to treat that particular disease, but I have been
fascinated (and "enlightened") by her detailed explanations of the
process she uses for it, and heartened to hear that she's curing 50% of
the "hopeless" cases! It sounds like she's doing a very effective job
of working out over time what does work and doesn't, and no doubt her
procedures will change over time. IMO your concerns about whether some
of these "experiments" are dangerous to the (already deemed to be
doomed) patients, tho no doubt founded in part, are better evaluated by
the one who is doing the prescribing, taking the heat, in possession of
the details, and in a position to observe the responses--not by
theorizing about it... One does have to experiment in order to
learn... Hahnemann did; I do; every student does, as does every
practitioner faced with a patient they've been unable to help, but are
"still trying". Life is an "experiment"...

Re your remark at the end, that she should remember this list is for
Hahnemannian homeopathy--I feel that her very detailed and educational
posts about how she translates between the animals' symptoms (and in
some cases LACK of usable symptoms) and the human-oriented rubrics, are
really sterling examples of how "Hahnemannian" homeopathy can be used
at a much broader level. Do you think Hahnemann would have objected?
:-) Surely you wouldn't want her to stop posting about this sort of
"horizontal thinking" and how it can broaden the usefulness of the
rubrics in life-or-death illness??? Please don't even think about
it!!!!!
Best wishes,
Shannon


Joy Lucas
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Joy Lucas »

the only 'front lines' necessary is Hahnemannian homeopathy - why go
elsewhere, except by saying that homeopathy doesn't work, as if to
justify this practice

Our 'experimentation', i.e. our 'science', is provings, these are
there for a purpose so we can accept a medicine for what it is truly
worth - that is what defines the essentials of homeopathy

to pluck out a potentised substance and use it just because you
'think' it will help isn't any kind of homeopathy - it is a bit like
saying "I am allergic to carrots so I will prescribe potentised Daucus
carota sativus and this is ridiculous

homeopathy is becoming horribly diluted with these theories of using
potentised substances without provings or matching sx - time and again
on this list, time and again within the colleges and even more so in
every day practice - why? It just seems to be a short cut and messing
around with potentised substances in a way that is not homeopathic. It
seems to be such an accepted method now and I don't know how it can be
justified.

how can anyone arrive at such a theory as 'homeopathy doesn't work for
these acute cases so I will give 'unknown' sarcodes as an experiment
instead' - take the trouble to find the simillimum, or prove the
substances so the results are reliable or don't call it homeopathy

working on the front lines with any aggressive pathology only really
needs what already soundly exists within homeopathy from a
Hahnemannian point of view and I have yet to understand how people
feel the need to go outside of that unless they just can't take the
trouble - we have 100's of rx in our MM, there is something for
everything and there is a limit to how the physical body, the mind and
the emotions can break down and become diseased and I can't appreciate
how guesswork is interesting, let alone safe.

Irene doesn't answer some of my posts regarding these issues so I
won't comment further - my concerns are to do with prescribing
'unknown' potentised substances and giving credibility and
encourgement to do this.

Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com

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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

HOMOEOPATHY by DEFINITION is prescription on the basis of SYMPTOM
SIMILARITY.

If the substance is not proved (i.e. we do not know what symptoms it is
capable of producing) then the laws of homoeopathy cannot be applied when it
is used.

Ergo - it's use whether potentised or not, is NOT homoeopathy.

Rgds
Soroush


Theresa Partington
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Theresa Partington »

Hi Simon

I have this book (Plastic Medicine) I find it quite a disturbing book for a homeopath to have written! No where does he use anything less than 200 potency. He uses that for breast enhancement and breast reduction, drying up milk, plumping up skinny legs and removing double chins. He goes up to 5m and 6m in some weight loss cases.

What he does say is that a remedy given on 2nd 3rd and 4th days after new moon (i.e. during the increasing moon) will ‘make a part bigger’ and on 2nd, 3rd and 4th day after the full moon (i.e. during the decreasing moon) will reduce the part size.

There is a little repertory and, fyi, Solub. (sic), nit ac and ars are the remedies for fattening up lips and silica, lyco, sulph, and Ign for doing the same to ‘lean buttocks’.

I would find his observations more useful in providing physical characteristics of remedies than for ‘curing’ things like wrinkles, as he claims to.

As for waxing lyrical over the shape and texture of teenage breasts …….well, all a bit creepy if you ask me!
theresa
Posted by: "Simon King" sk2006@ntlworld.com homeopathy_advice

Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:50 pm (PST)

I think Gallvardin also used to specify potencies of specific
remedies in one of his book entitled I believe 'Plastic Homeopathy'
(i.e. as in 'Plastic surgery ' : how to use homeopathy to change
or improve physical undesirabilities


Rosemary C Hyde PhD
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Rosemary C Hyde PhD »

I agree, Dale. Irene has given us some excellent suggestions in her posts, and I've appreciated them.
Also, I wanted to corroborate your statement that animals "get on board" with the plussing when the remedy seems resonant for them. They do ask for it, and it's obvious that they feel its power to help. Not just plussing -- when you've got the right remedy for a companion animal, they know it, and they do come and ask for it when it's needed. Rosemary


Irene de Villiers
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Joy Lucas wrote:

Have no idea. As I said in my email I ADD it to the simillimum (the
simillimum being homeopathy) as a kind of supplement system.

Hahnemann taught me to include nutrition and environmental issues as
relevant to a case.
Common sense and education taught me to continue to find things that DO
work. Hahnemann used to do the same, hence 6 Organon editions... right
up to time of death he was adding and changing things.
All 5000 or so?
I repertorize to find the right simillimum for each case - I believe I
mentioned that:-))

Have a great day.
NAmaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Simon King LCPH MARH
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Simon King LCPH MARH »

When I read it I couldn't believe it!

he did some interesting things in his life for sure!


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