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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Dale Moss wrote:
successfully treating my black Lab for lymphoma (4 years later, at age
13, he's still going strong, though a bit less rambunctious).

Excellent!!!!



I consider terminal case homeopathy to be an important aspect of animal
homeopathy.

gathering symptoms and confirming remedies. Also use Dr. Ramakrishnan's
technique of plussing (10 doses a day, in water)>>

It needs a dedicated owner, who is not away at work all day. There are
some who can and will do that.

>

Oh that's for sure.
I am currently helping a cat I rescued - a Phos type - he's so funny. I
give him a 0.5 ml dose of his remedy and he thinks about it - pulls my
hand near for more - stops at 2 ml and says urr!... and walks off very
sure of himself.
If I am late with remedy I get reminded.

I don't know if this sort of thing works for all cats or just specific
constitutional types - certainly for Phos types it's very definite - and
if one is unsure between 2 remedies - they can be placed on saucers and
the cat will know which is the right one.

I hope only one copy of this is going to arrive on the list and that
Yahoo gets their act together soon to fix this latest silly goof-up of
theirs!

Namaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Irene de Villiers
Posts: 3237
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:00 pm

Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Dale Moss wrote:
successfully treating my black Lab for lymphoma (4 years later, at age
13, he's still going strong, though a bit less rambunctious).

Excellent!!!!



I consider terminal case homeopathy to be an important aspect of animal
homeopathy.

gathering symptoms and confirming remedies. Also use Dr. Ramakrishnan's
technique of plussing (10 doses a day, in water)>>

It needs a dedicated owner, who is not away at work all day. There are
some who can and will do that.

>

Oh that's for sure.
I am currently helping a cat I rescued - a Phos type - he's so funny. I
give him a 0.5 ml dose of his remedy and he thinks about it - pulls my
hand near for more - stops at 2 ml and says urr!... and walks off very
sure of himself.
If I am late with remedy I get reminded.

I don't know if this sort of thing works for all cats or just specific
constitutional types - certainly for Phos types it's very definite - and
if one is unsure between 2 remedies - they can be placed on saucers and
the cat will know which is the right one.

I hope only one copy of this is going to arrive on the list and that
Yahoo gets their act together soon to fix this latest silly goof-up of
theirs!

Namaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Joy Lucas
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Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:00 pm

Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Joy Lucas »

I know about organ pathology and these drugs, I have dealt with their
use many times but I asked about the law of similars regarding the use
of potentised Pred and Thymus and where is the homeopathy in their use
or do you have proving data that you are using to match sx -
potenitsed rx used as supplements isn't hahnemannian homeopathy (or
any kind of homeopathy. Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com

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4c,
approach
hyou
hyperthyroid.


Shannon Nelson
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Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:00 pm

Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Irene and all,
This is an idea I've heard for years, but find very strange!!!! And
also my own (albeit limited) experience does NOT back up. At the time
that I made my first few attempts at using sarcodes (and actually i
haven't made many since then) I had simply forgotten about this idea,
and chose the potency rather arbitrarily, at 9c, to stimulate an
under-functioning pituitary. It worked nicely, tho only for a while
(and then we moved on to a "bigger" case-appropriate remedy which did
the same things and more). Similarly good (tho ultimately
insufficient) effect on a severe hypothyroid, again with (arbitrarily)
9c.

When some months later I was reminded of the "rules" above, I realized
how weird I find them. Generally speaking, remedies work by
"normalizing"--that which needs to be higher, will be raised; that
which needs to be lower, will be lowered. Why should the sarcodes be
different in this way? (And it appears to me that they're *not*.) It
that were true, shouldn't my two cases have gotten *worse* from the
potencies I gave them? Any thoughts?
Shannon


Simon King LCPH MARH
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Joined: Wed May 28, 2003 10:00 pm

Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Simon King LCPH MARH »

This protocol was developed by the French as I understand it beuse they
arent allowed to use anything above the 30c so they have researched all
the potencies below vigorously

Th first mention I saw of this was reading Folliculinum


muthu kumar
Posts: 1208
Joined: Mon May 24, 2004 10:00 pm

Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by muthu kumar »

I agree with you-

In general either a remedy has a direct physiological action or a
homeopathic one based on the dilution. Some medicines have a
physiological action (whether sarcodes or otherwise in low doses)-
like many of our mother tinctures - and this would happen irrespective
of whether indicated or not- even these will have a curative reaction
later on based on symptom similarity ( like when Homeopathy started
and hahnemann was giving drop doses with initial aggravation etc)

When you are working with potencies and prescribe it based on
indications ( which means the patient is sensitive to receive it) then
the indicated remedy will work only if is covers the dynamic changes (
partially or fully); and that is why when giving potencies ( and
infrequent doses) we say any reaction is a good reaction since either
we got the simillimum or nearing it- even aggravation shows we are on
the right track - a sharp aggravation followed by long lasting
amelioration.

That is also the reason the admonition to go for a higher potency
when more individualistic symptoms are covered since we know that we
are covering all the important and individual symptoms and so the
higher dilution will only work if the patient is really sensitive to it.

Regarding sarcodes ( esp. with horomanl products) even in the body in
natural state, all of these are governed by cybernetic feedback loops
and self regulating mechanisms.

An increased thyroid hormone level would trigger off homeostatic
mechanisms that reduce the stimulating hormone etc. and try to
maintain relative stability. I would think the same will happen in
potencies as well...that is why irrespective of hyper / hypo you can
still give the sarcode since it works on the same hyper/hypo axis and
based on law of signatures...

I would rather not give them in low potencies due to potential
physiological action.
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muthu kumar
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by muthu kumar »

I have also come across something of this sort for even regular
medicines - there was a piece published by H.Recorder 1946 by K. Moyer
on the treatment of Diabetes.
He has a list of 10 or so remedies - Apis mel Q or 1xnormalizes, Ant.
crud 3x reduces, Baryta Carb 30 x increases, Nux.mos normalizes etc.

Some of this might be action of the crude substance and considering
how hormones need minute amounts to act physiologically, there might
be some physiological action in low potencies
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realized
It


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by Shannon Nelson »

The distinction between physiological versus homeopathic actions seems
relevant... But you say that you prefer not to use them in low
potencies--what potency have you generally used, and for what
circumstances?
Thanks!
Shannon


muthu kumar
Posts: 1208
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Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by muthu kumar »

I have generally used the 30 or 200, generally the hormones and glands,
pretty much pathological and based on clinical indications and tips-
when there is a pathology involved in these spheres...
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then
changes (
sarcodes be
*not*.) It


robin9168
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Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:49 pm

Re: Cat with aggressive breast cancer

Post by robin9168 »

4c,
these are just extras to try to help.

Can anyone prove that the above actually does anything, I understand
the theory and have used this approach several times over the years
but really dont bother now because I have never been able to discern
whether it helps or not and I dont like giving powerful substances in
potency willy-nilly. It is not impossible that this may do more harm
thatn good. I think it is used in faith and hope more than anything.
hyou
hyperthyroid.

Similar comment. I know where this comes from but I really dont
believe it. Experimented in my early days with the concept and have
used low potencies a lot in my own way since and have no evidence that
these rules are true. Difficult to assess anyway. It seems its one of
those things you take on as a belief and kinda make it work for you
maybe possibly...


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