so-called AIDS in Africa

[Ananda Ruchira]

Dear all,
for what its worth, there's lots and lots of otherwise wellfed, healthy fat people who get AIDS. While no doubt poverty and its linked health-social conditions leads to a poor immune system and hence a more virulent spead of aids among the poor, there are, nevertheless, plenty of people who get AIDS who are not in that social class. So that particular one is a myth and a misconception of the life of African people.

till later,
Sincerely,
Didi Ananda Ruchira
Director, Abha Light
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tel: +254 20 445-0181 / cells: 0733-895466 / 0723-869133
skype: anandarucira
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[Sheri Nakken]

At 10:24 PM 1/24/2007 +0300, you wrote:

what may look like healthy and fat isn't necessarily.
The wrong foods, lack of mineralization of the soil and therefore food is a
huge factor in malnutrition.
Fat and looking healthy does not mean healthy

While no doubt poverty and its linked
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[Sheri Nakken]

At 02:04 PM 1/24/2007 -0500, you wrote:

It isn't about that. Those that think it is vaccines are talking about the
polio vaccine being grown on monkey kidney cells and that is the source.

I agree vaccinations are bad but I have a

There is a lot to read on this including a HUGE volume called The River
where the whole thing is laid out
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/bookstor.htm

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[Simon King LCPH MARH]

Did that and all I got was the idea .

Nothing new there ( to me)

anyway getting too OTT AFAIC
Simon
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[Simon King LCPH MARH]

maybe , I don't know, I kinda lose interest when Im swamped with
research ad nauseam.

Simon
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[Kathleen Ramsey]

Thanks I stayed up until 3 am reading last night Pretty soon the kids
will have to get their own breakfast. Kathy
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Subject: RE: [Minutus] so-called AIDS in Africa
At 02:04 PM 1/24/2007 -0500, you wrote:
have

It isn't about that. Those that think it is vaccines are talking about the
polio vaccine being grown on monkey kidney cells and that is the source.

I agree vaccinations are bad but I have a

There is a lot to read on this including a HUGE volume called The River
where the whole thing is laid out
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/bookstor.htm

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http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm
homeopathycures@tesco.net
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[Ananda Ruchira]

I wrote

And Sheri replied

Well, true. but then millions of americans would have aids too. they are certainly more suseptible as far as being over-vacc'ed, malnourished and over-drugged in general. So I'll rephrase my above statement & opinion.

...there are lots of otherwise nutritionally well fed healthy people who get AIDS and for that matter, lots of nutritionally malnourished people who don't get it......

so I believe that the statement "AIDS is simply effects of malnutrition ...." is a myth. Look for another cause or definition.

Sheri-
in Kenya, while the upper class does has access to modern "junk food", still the greater population depends on non-junk, non-additive foods, since packaged food is considered something of a luxury. Generally its maizemeal, rice, beans, un-processed "organic" -if you will- meats, indigenous & other veggies, fruits, wholegrain protein porridge. The only real failings in the Kenyan diet is generally too much sugar, tea, white bread, cooking fats and deep-fried potatoes. If you have money- you generally eat a wellbalanced diet. If you are poor, you eat one meal a day, usually lacking in proteins and too much sugars and hydrogenated fats.

Now, Kenya is much more modern than many other countries in Africa. and so it's true the diet is getting "westernized" somewhat. In other countries, tho, the luxury of junk food is not very available. Their diet, pre-AIDS or post-AIDS, hasn't changed.

poverty contributes to the spread of AIDS, but I don't believe malnutrition is a primary causation.

till later,
didi
Sincerely,
Didi Ananda Ruchira
Director, Abha Light
visit: www.abhalight.org
tel: +254 20 445-0181 / cells: 0733-895466 / 0723-869133
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[Tanya Marquette]

didi,

from your personal experience, what do you think contributes to aids in
africa?

i subscribe to the belief that aids was intentionally injected (pun
intended) into the
african public as part of the eugenics program supported by many of the
richest
corporate people of the world. there is too much information available to
discount
this. we do know that for countries to receive aid from organizations such
as the
world bank, leaders are pressured to agree to withhold human services on
every
level, while agreeing to promote the kinds of development that support
corporate
need; ie airports, hotels for traveling political and corporate leaders,
etc. acceptance
of the aids infection was one of these blackmailing pressures. i know some
people
may think this too political and too paranoid a statement, but the
information is
there despite the attempts to have it suppressed.

vaccinations are the simplest method of dissemination. the plasma was
included
in the vaccines and we all know how the vaccination program burgeoned in the
last quarter of the 20c, along with aids.

tanya
certainly more suseptible as far as being over-vacc'ed, malnourished and
over-drugged in general. So I'll rephrase my above statement & opinion.
get AIDS and for that matter, lots of nutritionally malnourished people who
don't get it......
...." is a myth. Look for another cause or definition.
still the greater population depends on non-junk, non-additive foods, since
packaged food is considered something of a luxury. Generally its maizemeal,
rice, beans, un-processed "organic" -if you will- meats, indigenous & other
veggies, fruits, wholegrain protein porridge. The only real failings in the
Kenyan diet is generally too much sugar, tea, white bread, cooking fats and
deep-fried potatoes. If you have money- you generally eat a wellbalanced
diet. If you are poor, you eat one meal a day, usually lacking in proteins
and too much sugars and hydrogenated fats.
so it's true the diet is getting "westernized" somewhat. In other
countries, tho, the luxury of junk food is not very available. Their diet,
pre-AIDS or post-AIDS, hasn't changed.
malnutrition is a primary causation.
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[Simon King LCPH MARH]

If you believe that then presumably you content that it is
categorically a virus that causes AIDS?

Interesting because if you were right that would make 'malice
aforethought' part of the AIDS homeopathic picture I imagine.
( alongside paranoia presumably?)
Simon
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[Irene de Villiers]

Tanya Marquette wrote:

Simple. The men think nothing of visiting Shebeens any time they want,
and do not use any "protection" as it is not macho to do so. Till
recently even the president in SA was claiming HIV had nothing to do
with AIDS and so encouraged inappropriate and dangerous behaviours.
A friend of mine who was administrator for a children's orthopedic
hospital in Cape Town for ages up to 12 yrs, found 85% of the children
HIV positive back in the 80s.
The "epidemic" has been brewing a long time.
Oh stop believing such nonsense! It makes no sense. The biggest
corporate world player in the area is Shell Oil - the biggest company
in the world. I was in charge of company strategy there in the 90s, and
Shell (and BP) were leading the way in hiring and supporting the black
population in their business - to the extent they even built villages of
housing for them. I know first hand as I was Strategy Planning Manager
for Shell Oil South Africa.
The biggest employers are the gold mines. I grew up on the biggest
mine in the southern hempisphere (Vaal Reefs) (and my dad was in
management there). Those mines are at the core of the economy and
provide the company's main source of income - have done for a long time
- and would go out of business without the black population as the main
work force.
Forget the urban legends about eugenics!

..Irene
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