OFF TOPIC: Antidepressants

[Gaby Rottler]

Dear all,

new study says:

Antidepressants increase the number of attempted suicides, but on the
long run mortality is lower.
Sigh.
More attempts - Less successful.
What happens to those who attempted more often because of the
antidepressants?
The world of statistics.
They'll probably see it as a success.

Sigh.
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Antidepressants and the Risk of Suicide, Attempted Suicide, and Overall
Mortality in a Nationwide Cohort

http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/conten ... 63/12/1358

Conclusions
Among suicidal subjects who had ever used antidepressants, the current
use of any antidepressant was associated with a markedly increased risk
of attempted suicide and, at the same time, with a markedly decreased
risk of completed suicide and death. Lower mortality was attributable to
a decrease in cardiovascular- and cerebrovascular-related deaths during
selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor use.
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Best,

Gaby

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Gaby Rottler,
Germany
rottler@curantur.de

http://www.curantur.de
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[Shannon Nelson]

Can someone explain what this part means: "Lower mortality was
attributable to a decrease in cardiovascular- and
cerebrovascular-related deaths during selective serotonin reuptake
inhibitor use."--doesn't that mean e.g. strokes and heart attacks?
Shannon
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[Luise Kunkle]

On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
Yes, it does mean that.

As far as the higher rate of attempted suicides is concerned:

This is a risk with *all* successful treatment of depression. We were
warned of that in Naturopathic School, and you can e. g. find it on
relevantd sites in the net also.

A person in a deeply depressed state does as a rule not have the
energy for attempting suicide. As the depression gets better, there
often occurs a state of "higher energy + remaining depression" - this
is a high suicide risk situation.

Regards

Luise
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One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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[Shannon Nelson]

Ah, thanks Luise, I do remember being told that! But had completely
forgotten.
Shannon
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