to :doctor leela

[Bonnieallenart]

re: cirriohsis
i have a couple of questions regarding your good suggestions.
pulsatilla is acting wonderfully for her (200c)
but i don't think it's touching the miasm that includes cirriohsis...so some
would claim that i haven't found her constitutional.but she is responding
very well with this remedy, although her liver continues to deteriorate.
are you suggesting that I give her intercurrently a mother tincture? Carduus
Benedictus seems to fit well, although i'm finding it difficult to find the
tincture.
thanks for you imput.
all the best,
bonnie
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[dr. leela]

Hi Bonni,
I just came back from the Lyteforce list and Ramachandra has posted
few cases that jogged my memory of a cirrosis case I treated.
I used Tuberclainum 1 M for a cace that was early cirrhosis with
prolonged jaundice in a child of 5 yrs, about 9 years back.

I think Tuberculinum is the antimismatic nosode indicated in
Cirrhosis. As ramachanfra's expereince confirms this. Cirrhosis is
an expression of destruction. This is a combination of Psora and
Syphilis which expresses as Tubercle miasm or Pseudopsora.

Pulsatilla is predominantly antisycotic. Probably the ladies history
has a predominant sycotic miasmatic trait. So if Puls is
consitutional and now you have to deal with the heriditary miasm,
Tuberculinum 1M is what is needed as intercurrent.

tell me the symptom related to the Cirrhosis (probably from the time
that liver function has been greatly compromised). I could give you
an idea about the mother tincture that will help.
From India, you could call Zorashtrian Pharmacy at 91-22-22013226
and find out if they have and can ship you the tincture.
Dr. leela
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cirriohsis...so some
responding
deteriorate.
tincture? Carduus
find the

[Bonnieallenart]

Dear Doctor Leela,
She has no symptoms to note regarding the cirriohsis. The deterioration of
her liver was discovered at a routine medical check up and her mother and
grandmother both had this wit apparently no drinking history. I felt carduus
benedictus could be helpful based on the Compositae plant family common symptoms
(Sankaran).
So i was wondering based on your original email if I would give her this in
a tincture repeated daily? this is new ground for me..I don't use tinctures in
my practice, but that's because i'm not familiar with them. Ideologically, I
like to remain open .
So I don't know...
Thank you very nuch for reviewing this with me....
bonnie
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[Simon King LCPH MARH]

I would be wary of using Mts unless you are a medically Qualified
herbalist as well, or know one:-)

I have seen some apparently innocuous MT prescriptions cause
problems - remember MTs are not the same as giving dilute remedies,
the same rules don't apply!
kind regards

Simon King
44 (0)1603 466092
(include the zero in brackets only if calling from the UK)
http://www.Homeopathy-Help.net
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[dr. leela]

Hi BOnnie, there is usually a reason why the cirrhotic canges being
to develop, from the homeopathic perspective. It is the weakness of
the liver - if you like.

Routine medical check up you mean something like a scan or a blood
test? We need to have something reliable to test the progress on the
remedy - if sympotms are not available them we have to rely on the
blood tests.
Could you give me detials of that medical check up? If it was a
scan, then the compete descriptive report.
We'll take it from there.

Also, does she have any varicose veins in the lower extremities?
Does she have haemorrhoids? Does she ahve any swellings? Dose she
have any digestive problems? Any eruptions on the skin? All these
are subtle signs of cirrhosis.
thanks
d.r lelea
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deterioration of
mother and
felt carduus
common symptoms
her this in
tinctures in
Ideologically, I

[dr. leela]

HI Simon,
Mother Tinctures a supportive therapy are a well known method in
homeopathy called Organ therapy - very common in our parts.
Obviously the method used is different to Sankaran. The indication
has to be clear in every individual case as to why the mother
tincture is indicated.

The situations when I've used Mother tinctures for a short while
(offhand)are:
Diabeties
Asthma
Jaundice
Prostatic Hypertrophy
Poor appetite/convalescing
to name a few conditions.
Obviously the indicated similimum matteres more. BUt there are cases
for various reasons (mostly HErings LAw) some (symptomatic) aspects
don't respond to the similimum and one needs a support.

HEre in this case, though I think an amtimiasmatic is required.
d.r leela
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Qualified
remedies,
family
her
use

[Bonnieallenart]

In a message dated 11/22/2006 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
doctorleela@hotmail.com writes:

, does she have any varicose veins in the lower extremities? yes...symptoms
allieviated by puls.
Does she have haemorrhoids? no
Does she ahve any swellings? no
Dose she
have any digestive problems? no. Any eruptions on the skin
? no.
All these
are subtle signs of cirrhosis. no symptoms of cirriohsis.
i'll get more info regarding the med exam.
again , thank you.
bonnie
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[Irene de Villiers]

dr. leela wrote:

Hi De Leela,

One use of MT I have had good success with is use of Hypericum lotion in
spinal column damage to overcome paralysis.

May I ask how you select MT's for poor appetite in particular - do you
have favourites to match to a case?

I ask because lack of appetite in cats is a huge problem in an area
where I work a lot with severe chronic disease. As you say simillimum
does the main work - but meantime food is just as essential to progress.
Liver damage is the usual area for inappetance for the cases I am
working with (FIP in cats). If you have any suggestions please, I am all
ears:-)

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Rochelle Marsden]

However if you give MT or herbal tinctures (these are what I use) in minimum
doses (6 drops tds) rather than herbal teaspoon doses they can do wonders as
organ tonics and are safe!! I only had a problem once when I gave a woman
Berberis HT as a kidney support in the hopes it would draw out arthritis
through her kidneys - Listen to one of Ian Watson's tapes/CDs on Arthritis.
He says the urine can turn black. Well the patient came back with radiating
pains in the back which were miraculously cured with 2 doses of Berberis 30
in 30 mins!!!

Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Simon King LCPH MARH]

I am well aware of the methodology and emphasise that I am not
against the PRINCIPLE of using MTs but only issue a warning that they
are not universally safe as has been stated

Some are very safe, others are safe in carefully measured doses, and
others are potentially harmful

e.g echinacea is sometimes recommended to be taken over long periods,
but it is not universally safe to do so; same with Uva uvrsi
(contains an enzyme that prevents the absorbtion of Thiamine and
contains other substances that are harmful in prolonged dosing, maybe
even potentially carcinogenic (arbutin); others can become toxic very
quickly if the dose is exceeded e.g. digitalis, chelidonium. Again
the duration and dose that can be toeratesd will differ from patinet
to patient depending on te condition and susceptability
To reiterate I am NOT against the PRINCIPLE of using MTs , I am
warning those that are not properly trained in herbalism not to
assume that they are universally safe to use; unless you know what
you are doing - they are not.
kind regards

Simon King
44 (0)1603 466092
(include the zero in brackets only if calling from the UK)
http://www.Homeopathy-Help.net
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