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VR VR
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sepia case - advice?

Post by VR VR »

Hi,
I have a case of a woman in her early 50s, with hot flushes that wake her in the night with sweating. She then can't get to sleep again, and is greatly helped by exercise. When she came to me, she was also getting hot flushes practically every hour during the day.
I gave her Sepia LM1, and the situation in the day time improved drastically within a day or two. However, there's no change at night, except for some very vivid unsettling dreams.
I'm not sure whether to go up in potency, as the remedy is helping during the day. It seems the remedy itself is working well. At present she's taking it once a day, I've tried switching between morning and evening but there's no difference in the night awakenings.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Vera

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Shannon Nelson
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Re: sepia case - advice?

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Vera,
Appearance of "unsettling dreams" would make me suspect that
something's not right--maybe either the remedy is "close" rather than
"it", or she's taking it too often--has she checked to see how long the
good effect will last? How long has she been on it, and is it long
enough to tell whether the improvement is progressing?
Shannon
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Luise Kunkle
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Re: sepia case - advice?

Post by Luise Kunkle »

Hi VR,
I could imagine that thenight symptoms are more basic and take longer
to get at.

I should keep up the potency she has now and the way she is taking it
- aftr all it seems to be working. It may work itself down to the more
basic.

Only when the improvement seems to stop in all aspects I should
change the potency.
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Jean Doherty
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Re: sepia case - advice?

Post by Jean Doherty »

Nat Mur may be worth looking at as comes up in exertion
ameliorates. Perspiration during dreams and vivid dreams . Can be
pretty close to sepia--I think.,Jean
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VR VR
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Re: sepia case - advice?

Post by VR VR »

Jean, do you agree with Luise to carry on with existing or think like Shannon that I should switch remedy? Nat Mur has relevance to the case as there is a pretty heavy grief component which aggravated existing symptoms. I find I don't want to "waste time" with this case, want to find the best thing for the patient as fast as possible - I think this is reflecting impatience in the patient, which could come under Sepia or Nat-M. The patient keeps insisting that she is not being helped (because the nights aren't improving) although when we look at the days she acknowledges the change - this kind of denial I've found is typical of Sepia.
Shannon, in answer to your question, she's only been on the remedy just under two weeks. I find vivid dreaming is very often part of the beginning stages of treatment. It seems to me to be too early to switch, but...?
Thanks to all,
Vera

Jean Doherty wrote:
Nat Mur may be worth looking at as comes up in exertion
ameliorates. Perspiration during dreams and vivid dreams . Can be
pretty close to sepia--I think.,Jean
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: sepia case - advice?

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Ah, if she's only been on it two weeks, then I agree that seems to
quick to change. I guess my knee-jerk reaction was as it was because
in my own small group, sleep has usually been one of the first things
to change for the better--but I wouldn't want to make a "rule" of
that... The unsettling dreams could just be a "working things out"
process.

As far as her impatience, I would suggest to just patiently explain to
her that trying to "cut corners" in the early stages will in all
likelihood just make the whole thing take longer in the end--you don't
want to go "speeding past" a useful remedy just because of not giving
it time to really show its colors!

But--I sure sympathize with the impatience thing!!!!
:-)
Shannon
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Jean Doherty
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Re: sepia case - advice?

Post by Jean Doherty »

Tried to reply earlier. Maybe a matter of exploring the
modalities, thirst, from sun, salt??/ weeping silently or
sobbing,unable to weep, allgoneness of Sepia, demeanour, etc etc and
stick to your gut feeling, Jean
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Jean Doherty
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Re: sepia case - advice?

Post by Jean Doherty »

I worry if "not feeling better in oneself " but maybe someone more
familiar with use of LMs could advise. I am often too impatient.
Maybe just stop for a week and see.?? Is it possible the vivid
dreams could be a proving on the Sepia as they seem new?? Best
Wishes , Jean
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muthu kumar
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Re: sepia case - advice?

Post by muthu kumar »

I would not change the remedy- it is too early for it ( of course
at this point I would not have been repeating Sepia either)

Vivid dreams in my perspective is that there are some items being
processed at this time because of the medicine and clearly an
indication to persist with the same medicine-

Patient needs to be convinced....
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VR VR
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Re: sepia case - advice?

Post by VR VR »

my feeling is also not to switch, tho I'd like to start seeing improvement in the nights. The repetition is part of treatment with medicinal solution, where when there is gradual improvement you repeat the remedy.
thanks for the input,
Vera

hahnemannian2002 wrote:
I would not change the remedy- it is too early for it ( of course
at this point I would not have been repeating Sepia either)

Vivid dreams in my perspective is that there are some items being
processed at this time because of the medicine and clearly an
indication to persist with the same medicine-

Patient needs to be convinced....

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robert & Shannon Nelson
wrote:
because
things
out"
explain to
don't
giving
like
the case
existing
want to
think this
Sepia
helped
the
found is
remedy
of the
be
that
sleep
me, she
the day.
improved
helping
At
between
take
taking
the
should
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