A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory
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A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory
Here's an excellent article that will confirm what Sheri Nakken's been
saying all along - that most of the diseases in modern society today are not
caused by the 'pathogenic bacteria' that enter from outside us, but from
the microbes that live in our cells and mutates into bacteria, fungus, and
viruses when the tissues of our bodies in which they live change to provide
a medium for their growth.
Christine
www.dogsonholiday-uk.com
www.homoeopathyclassical.com
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 2:02 PM
Subject: "A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory"
vaccinations
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sense chemically
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in
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said
lived.
to
will
pH of
of
mutates,
no
the
acidic
deadly
more
practitioner
allopathic
looked at as
for
anyone who
does so
and
Available
Plagiarist,
Bechamps
saying all along - that most of the diseases in modern society today are not
caused by the 'pathogenic bacteria' that enter from outside us, but from
the microbes that live in our cells and mutates into bacteria, fungus, and
viruses when the tissues of our bodies in which they live change to provide
a medium for their growth.
Christine
www.dogsonholiday-uk.com
www.homoeopathyclassical.com
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 2:02 PM
Subject: "A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory"
vaccinations
explain
from
from
countries
it is
been
Yet,
incompetent
thorough
Louis
The
but the
about
after
fermentation
and
giving
the
able to
their
life").
They
is
found
stages:
a
Pasteur. Disease
depends upon
microbes
state
bodies in
to
function.
live
cooked steak
living
their
scraps into
sense chemically
are
killed
in
transform
bodies free
we will
mutate
said
lived.
to
will
pH of
of
mutates,
no
the
acidic
deadly
more
practitioner
allopathic
looked at as
for
anyone who
does so
and
Available
Plagiarist,
Bechamps
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Re: A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory
If you believe this bacteria becoming yeast and that becoming virus -
you will believe anything...
It is not just Pasteur any more. There have been numerous other
scientists with integrity who have worked on this. Germ theory is NOT
false. It is just INADEQUATE for prescribing. Just germ theory alone
is not enough for accounting for variations in infectivity and
severity of infections etc. Homeopathy extends allopathy - transcends
allopathy - does not negate its findings...
If a person has malaria - we do not give a medicine for the diagnosis
of malaria... but the medical diagnosis of malaria is not negated.
What we should be saying and are saying is just this diagnostic label
alone is not enough for prescribing. Because a medical diagnosis is
based on the presence of the same symptoms in all affected whereas we
need to have the differences that set people apart to prescribe
individually.
Because from an allopathic point of view the heat accompanied by
thirstlessness, headache > closing eyes and in quiet room, sweating <
headache, patient preferring to walk in open air etc. etc. that the
patient is suffering from ALONG WITH and the SAME TIME with MALARIA
are all conveniently forgotten. What allopaths are taking is a
convenient slice of the symptoms. So we are saying such treatment can
only be suppressive. A rational therapy should take other such
peculiar and idiosyncratic symptoms also into account ALONG with the
provisional diagnosis of malaria to treat the WHOLE patient. By doing
this we are not only treating the present attack of malaria but
perhaps also preventing the after-effects ( because the whole system
is fortified) and also preventing possible future attacks ( because
the system has been treated and so susceptibility to infection is
decreased). Still we should not say diagnosing is wrong and parasites
are not the cause.
Modern germ theory does not state that only external infectious agents
are the reason for all infectious diseases. It also accepts that there
are individual variations based on susceptibility etc. Why do you
think there is a field called Immunology? Why is there immunoglobulin
administration for passive immunity?
The next time you take your dogs on holiday
- take them to Africa
or India after the rains. You will find a lot of mosquitos and house
flies on a holiday too. Do not use a mosquito net. Eat the raw
vegetables and fruits in the market ( despite the flies using them to
sunbath in their vacation -since these flies do not carry germs - just
positive holiday spirit)... Come back ( if you still can) and read the
article once again...and then comment...
What will you advise for prevention in malaria, tuberculosis etc. In
TB will you test and track the contacts or not?
There are many brilliant people, people smarter than you and me and
who have spent the best part of their professional life in researching
these, better educated, better qualified, better scientific people -
and not all of them bound to global pharmaceutical giants- who have
published a lot of articles. Read them instead. Try to use this
knowledge to inform and improve your homeopathic practice-
( What do you think of intestinal nosodes, Bacillinum, Variolinum etc?)
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Dogs on Holiday-UK" wrote:
are not
from
fungus, and
provide
them free
remain free
viewpoint about
discovering
Pasteur has
experimented
discovering was
For a
1940's book
Lie of
of his,
fermentation.
reaction,
brought
some time
require
concept that
did grasp
thief and a
experiment with
Monomorphism,
Beauchamp was
by many
contains two
"inside
from it.
person's health
fourth stage
through
to more
begin
restorative
active
to do
scraps in
BIODEGRADES. It is
and other
breaking it
your body
permanently
because we
do with
these germs
slightly
lesson,
microorganisms cannot
fraud. He
model of
people
room
all. The
transformation
there is
trained in
treatments
even more
encourages a
studies, and
refuse
person
away. And
I hope
negligent with
my own
the 20th
Disease.
[http://www.priorityonevitamins.com/arti ... _Logan.htm].
you will believe anything...
It is not just Pasteur any more. There have been numerous other
scientists with integrity who have worked on this. Germ theory is NOT
false. It is just INADEQUATE for prescribing. Just germ theory alone
is not enough for accounting for variations in infectivity and
severity of infections etc. Homeopathy extends allopathy - transcends
allopathy - does not negate its findings...
If a person has malaria - we do not give a medicine for the diagnosis
of malaria... but the medical diagnosis of malaria is not negated.
What we should be saying and are saying is just this diagnostic label
alone is not enough for prescribing. Because a medical diagnosis is
based on the presence of the same symptoms in all affected whereas we
need to have the differences that set people apart to prescribe
individually.
Because from an allopathic point of view the heat accompanied by
thirstlessness, headache > closing eyes and in quiet room, sweating <
headache, patient preferring to walk in open air etc. etc. that the
patient is suffering from ALONG WITH and the SAME TIME with MALARIA
are all conveniently forgotten. What allopaths are taking is a
convenient slice of the symptoms. So we are saying such treatment can
only be suppressive. A rational therapy should take other such
peculiar and idiosyncratic symptoms also into account ALONG with the
provisional diagnosis of malaria to treat the WHOLE patient. By doing
this we are not only treating the present attack of malaria but
perhaps also preventing the after-effects ( because the whole system
is fortified) and also preventing possible future attacks ( because
the system has been treated and so susceptibility to infection is
decreased). Still we should not say diagnosing is wrong and parasites
are not the cause.
Modern germ theory does not state that only external infectious agents
are the reason for all infectious diseases. It also accepts that there
are individual variations based on susceptibility etc. Why do you
think there is a field called Immunology? Why is there immunoglobulin
administration for passive immunity?
The next time you take your dogs on holiday

or India after the rains. You will find a lot of mosquitos and house
flies on a holiday too. Do not use a mosquito net. Eat the raw
vegetables and fruits in the market ( despite the flies using them to
sunbath in their vacation -since these flies do not carry germs - just
positive holiday spirit)... Come back ( if you still can) and read the
article once again...and then comment...
What will you advise for prevention in malaria, tuberculosis etc. In
TB will you test and track the contacts or not?
There are many brilliant people, people smarter than you and me and
who have spent the best part of their professional life in researching
these, better educated, better qualified, better scientific people -
and not all of them bound to global pharmaceutical giants- who have
published a lot of articles. Read them instead. Try to use this
knowledge to inform and improve your homeopathic practice-
( What do you think of intestinal nosodes, Bacillinum, Variolinum etc?)
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Dogs on Holiday-UK" wrote:
are not
from
fungus, and
provide
them free
remain free
viewpoint about
discovering
Pasteur has
experimented
discovering was
For a
1940's book
Lie of
of his,
fermentation.
reaction,
brought
some time
require
concept that
did grasp
thief and a
experiment with
Monomorphism,
Beauchamp was
by many
contains two
"inside
from it.
person's health
fourth stage
through
to more
begin
restorative
active
to do
scraps in
BIODEGRADES. It is
and other
breaking it
your body
permanently
because we
do with
these germs
slightly
lesson,
microorganisms cannot
fraud. He
model of
people
room
all. The
transformation
there is
trained in
treatments
even more
encourages a
studies, and
refuse
person
away. And
I hope
negligent with
my own
the 20th
Disease.
[http://www.priorityonevitamins.com/arti ... _Logan.htm].
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Re: A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory
The voice of common sense and reason, Jean
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Re: A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory
Dear Christine
An interesting but perhaps flawed article.
Granted - The Germ Theory is certainly is not perfect.
However, I am yet to be presented evidence for the metamorphosis of one type
of micro-organism into under different pH conditions.
We have different type of bacteria which like acid or alkali conditions. For
example the friendly 'lacto' bacteria living normally the vagina produce an
acid condition. Yet when this is disturbed, we have fungi (thrush) taking
over.
So I think this presented model is not perfect either.
Also how does one measure the pH of the body?
With our concepts of Dilution and Succussion homoeopaths already have a
mountain to climb against the allopaths - I think it would be wrong to add
to the burden by coming up with such view without concrete evidence.
Rgds
Soroush
An interesting but perhaps flawed article.
Granted - The Germ Theory is certainly is not perfect.
However, I am yet to be presented evidence for the metamorphosis of one type
of micro-organism into under different pH conditions.
We have different type of bacteria which like acid or alkali conditions. For
example the friendly 'lacto' bacteria living normally the vagina produce an
acid condition. Yet when this is disturbed, we have fungi (thrush) taking
over.
So I think this presented model is not perfect either.
Also how does one measure the pH of the body?
With our concepts of Dilution and Succussion homoeopaths already have a
mountain to climb against the allopaths - I think it would be wrong to add
to the burden by coming up with such view without concrete evidence.
Rgds
Soroush
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Re: A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory
At 11:54 AM 10/25/2006 +0100, you wrote:
I work with a system called RBTI which works with evaluating body chemistry
and I use urine and saliva tests.
Its challenging & mostly shared with those who may be open to considering
that we don't know everything and much as been suppressed
It think it was Rife who found viruses coming out of bacteria - I'll see if
I can find that - but he also believed they 'caused' disease.
Sheri
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I work with a system called RBTI which works with evaluating body chemistry
and I use urine and saliva tests.
Its challenging & mostly shared with those who may be open to considering
that we don't know everything and much as been suppressed
It think it was Rife who found viruses coming out of bacteria - I'll see if
I can find that - but he also believed they 'caused' disease.
Sheri
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Well Within & Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours (worldwide)
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Re: A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory
The question about "things" morphing from one form to
another--Enderlein's work on pleimorphism I've met up with it only a
little, but from a person whose clinical work I've come to deeply
respect--a very "eclectic" chiropractor--and he convinced me that it's
worth taking seriously. Trippy, but compelling.
However, that work, at least to the extent that I can see, definitely
doesn't preclude "contagion" as a factor, and does *not* say that *all*
infections are endogenous (produced from within the body), only that
*some* are--and that, to my mind, makes a huge difference.
Shannon
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another--Enderlein's work on pleimorphism I've met up with it only a
little, but from a person whose clinical work I've come to deeply
respect--a very "eclectic" chiropractor--and he convinced me that it's
worth taking seriously. Trippy, but compelling.
However, that work, at least to the extent that I can see, definitely
doesn't preclude "contagion" as a factor, and does *not* say that *all*
infections are endogenous (produced from within the body), only that
*some* are--and that, to my mind, makes a huge difference.
Shannon
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Re: A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory
On Wednesday, October 25, 2006, at 07:43 AM, Sheri Nakken wrote:
And in fact his methods made astounding cures on the basis that they
'caused' disease...
?
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And in fact his methods made astounding cures on the basis that they
'caused' disease...
?
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Re: A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory
At 08:12 AM 10/25/2006 -0500, you wrote:
Again did the frequency destroy a virus causing something?
Or did it resonate with the disease state which was also resonated with by
the virus?
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Again did the frequency destroy a virus causing something?
Or did it resonate with the disease state which was also resonated with by
the virus?
http://www.wanttoknow.info/cancercuresroyalrife
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Well Within & Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours (worldwide)
Vaccination Information & Choice Network
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Re: A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory
On Wednesday, October 25, 2006, at 08:28 AM, Sheri Nakken wrote:
I guess I can't say--I don't know where his description of "blowing up"
pathogens came from, whether it was observation or just a guess.
The thing is, tho, there are all these examples where "behaving as if"
pathogens cause disease can have lifesaving effects, both in prevention
and in cure. But "behaving as if" pathogens *can't* cause
disease--well, doesn't that lead us back into behaviors that have
proved potentially harmful (mosquitos, polluted water, sex with
potentially infected partner, lack of hygiene in general)? I don't see
the advantage!!
Now I DO see the advantage is spreading understanding of "the terrain";
I just don't see the advantage (and see possibility of great harm) in
negating that other half of the story.
Shannon
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I guess I can't say--I don't know where his description of "blowing up"
pathogens came from, whether it was observation or just a guess.
The thing is, tho, there are all these examples where "behaving as if"
pathogens cause disease can have lifesaving effects, both in prevention
and in cure. But "behaving as if" pathogens *can't* cause
disease--well, doesn't that lead us back into behaviors that have
proved potentially harmful (mosquitos, polluted water, sex with
potentially infected partner, lack of hygiene in general)? I don't see
the advantage!!
Now I DO see the advantage is spreading understanding of "the terrain";
I just don't see the advantage (and see possibility of great harm) in
negating that other half of the story.
Shannon
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Re: A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory
At 10:05 AM 10/25/2006 -0500, you wrote:
The other half of the story is what most of allopathy is based on
Drugs, vaccines, fear of disease, and all the other harmful things that are
out of control
Sheri
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The other half of the story is what most of allopathy is based on
Drugs, vaccines, fear of disease, and all the other harmful things that are
out of control
Sheri
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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
Well Within & Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours (worldwide)
Vaccination Information & Choice Network
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm
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