Pilocarpus mentals?

[Shannon Nelson]

My rep gives only 8 M/E sxs (basically anxiety, delirium depression,
coma) for pilocarpus. Does anyone have other information about its
mental state?
Thanks,
Shannon

[Rochelle Marsden]

Well I've found 12!!!!

Rochelle

RUV; Mind
Remedies, piloc

1"mod; excitement, emotional; agg.: (1010): "1
2"mod; perspiration; with: (130): "1
3"phen; anxiety: (707): "1
4"phen; delirium: (319): "1
5"phen; delirium; mod; sopor, in: (33): "1
6"phen; dreams: (744): "1
7"phen; dreams; many: (287): "1
8"phen; general: (1263): "1
9"phen; sadness: (720): "1
10"phen; sadness; mod; perspiration; during: (32): "1
11"phen; unconsciousness, coma; general: (400): "1
12"phen; unconsciousness, coma; general; mod; uremic coma: (35): "1
Rochelle Marsden
Registered Homeopath
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Shannon Nelson]

LOL, thanks! I wonder whether it doesn't produce much of a mental
picture, or whether it's just not known? There don't seem to be many
rubrics at *all* for it, which surprised me.
Shannon
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[Tanya Marquette]

Murphy refers to pilocarpus as jaborundi.
in Synthesis there are 19 mentals under jaborundi
unfortunately i cannot copy the sx for you

tanya
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[muthu kumar]

looks like most of them were in coma - right? They tried to tell
their symptoms but could not

(Most of these are poisoning symptoms. They do not look like
pathogenetic symptoms after potencies...)

I have prescribed this is a couple of hyperthyroid cases in 30c-
with excess sweat, anxiety and irritability. Mainly excess
secretions is the effect of the remedy.

It improved both of them significantly. So at least clinically I can
say that it had
" Anxiety with sweating ( how about Generalized Anxiety Disorder)
and Irritability with sweating / salivation."

I did not see much depression- ( masked?)
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robert & Shannon Nelson
wrote:
many
(35): "1
depression,
its

[Robyn]

Shannon
Here are the rubrics from RU and Synth for Jaborandi, which is Pilocarpus, which is not the same as the piloc that Rochelle found it seems, as the rubrics are different.
The one Rochelle found was maybe called "Pilocarpinum + salts" --- and pilocarpinum is the alkaloid from the Pilocarpus (Jaborandi), with the salts - mur, nit, and purum.

There seem to be 29 in all

MIND - PHENOMENA - TACITURN, indisposed to talk
MIND - PHENOMENA - RESTLESSNESS, nervousness - evening
MIND - PHENOMENA - RESTLESSNESS, nervousness
MIND - PHENOMENA - KILL, desire to - loved ones
MIND - PHENOMENA - KILL, desire to
MIND - PHENOMENA - DULLNESS, sluggishness, difficulty of thinking and comprehending - alternating with - hilarity and mirth
MIND - PHENOMENA - DULLNESS, sluggishness, difficulty of thinking and comprehending
MIND - PHENOMENA - DREAMS - many
MIND - PHENOMENA - DREAMS - fights
MIND - PHENOMENA - DREAMS - accidents, of
MIND - PHENOMENA - DELUSIONS, imaginations
MIND - PHENOMENA - DELIRIUM - night
MIND - PHENOMENA - DELIRIUM
MIND - PHENOMENA - CONFUSION of mind
MIND - PHENOMENA - CHEERFULNESS, gaiety, happiness - general - alternating with - dullness
MIND - PHENOMENA - CHEERFULNESS, gaiety, happiness - general
MIND - PHENOMENA - ANXIETY - chest, in
MIND - TIME - NIGHT
MIND - TIME - EVENING - agg.
MIND - ALTERNATING SYMPTOMS - ALTERNATING states - emotional
MIND - ALTERNATING SYMPTOMS - ALTERNATING states
MIND - TALKING - sleep, in
MIND - MIRTH - alternating with - dullness
MIND - MIRTH
MIND - EXCITEMENT - nervous
MIND - EXCITEMENT
MIND - DELUSIONS - murdering; he is - family with a hatchet; she will murder her
MIND - DELUSIONS - head - light; head is
MIND - ANXIETY

Robyn
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[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks, Robyn!
Shannon
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[Shannon Nelson]

Yikes, it looks like "jaborandi" is applied to several trees...
Jaborandi is shown as "Jaborandi rutaceae";
Pilocarpus is shown as Pilocarpus pinnatus, tho also called a jaborandi
tree...
Shannon
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[Rochelle]

Robyn - you are correct.
Here is what I have from the mentals from Jaborandi in Vermuelen 2
MIND: Cheerfulness, gaiety, happiness # dullness [1/1]. Delusion that she will murder her family with a hatchet [1/1]. Dreams of accidents [1]; fights [1]. Desire

to kill loved ones [1].

Regards
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks Hahnemannian,
Do you have a sense of how lasting those effects were? It it brought a
lasting effect, and if you can recall other aspects of those patients'
M/E pictures, it could add to the scanty picture the present rubrics
give--do you recall anything there?

Shannon
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