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Joy Lucas
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bowel nosodes

Post by Joy Lucas »

For those of you who are interested in the bowel nosodes I offer the
following:-

They are prepared from cultures of non-lactose fermenting flora of the
intestinal tract. First isolated in 1880 by a bacteriologist - Eberth. Bach
did much work on them from a homeopathic point of view. Started to prepare
vaccines from dead cultures and treating patients with injections. In 1919
he joined the London Homeopathic Hospital as a bacteriologist and started
potentising bacteria a year later. I think some provings were carried out in
1929 and then he concentrated on the Flower Rx. In 1928 Elisabeth and John
Patterson did much work on the nosodes and did a protracted programme of
provings and clinical trials.

Morgan (pure) = Patterson; Morgan Gaertner = Patterson; Gaertner = Bach;
Proteus = Bach; Dysentry Compound = Bach; Sycotic Compound = Patterson;
Mutabile = Bach; Faecalis = Bach; Baccilus No. 7 and 10 = Patterson.

These are deep acting remedies from the highest mental to the lowest
physical. They can be used at any time IF THE PICTURE FITS.

Where there is a group of remedies indicated but no clear picture of any -
if the group of remedies is related to a bowel nosode than that nosode can
be given to help clarify the picture. Can also be given when the indicated
remedy fails - they may unblock.

Bowel nosodes can take up to 3 months before they take full effect. After
4-6 weeks the picture should start to get clearer. It is generally thought
that you do not prescribe another bowel nosode or repeat within 3 months.
They can be prescribed sometimes specifically for antibiotic poisoning
(Gaertner + Morgan), skin drugs will need Morgan, digestive drugs will need
Proteus.

They are not often used under 30c although Patterson used 6. It is
considered that 30 and 200 are the best potencies to use. In children it is
best not to go above 30, unless you have a good reason to, on the first
prescription.

There is a wonderful little book called A Treatise On Bowel Nosodes, by Dr
V. R. Agrawal (1981) - it might still be available especially from Indian
book publishers.

BACILLUS No. 7

Looks dark, pale, puffy, heavy closed eyelids, tense and tired, mental
fatigue, unfit for any mental effort = physical exhaustion, even the thought
of it, Angio-neurotic oedema, retinal bleeding, catarrhal deafness,
tonsillitis and quinsy, asthma, bronchial catarrh, tough sticky mucous which
is difficult to raise, heat and rest eating, distension, heartburn, nausea morning on waking,
acrid vomiting, thirst > cold drinks but lying down, wakes
at midnight-1 am with acute stomach pain > vomiting, duodenal ulcers,
palpitations with fears, valvular heart disease, menses irregular, morning
diarrhoea with burning, diarrhoea and constipation alternate, bruises and
bleeds easily, has trouble sleeping, sudden shock whilst sleeping, herpes
and scaly eruptions, flat warts, gummy discharge, dry brittle hair, cold and
chilly > warmth, > air and space, perspire easily, vomiting,
not much appetite but has to eat at 11 am, varicose veins, haemorrhoids,
easy brusing, fingers swollen, arms puffy and stiff, pain in soles of feet,
urine corrosive and contains sugar, fibroid and uterine polyps, thickening
skin with deep cracks, bleeding and moist eczema eructations flatus and moving about, desires sweets salt eggs meat
hot food, averse to fat eggs meat, flatulent indigestion excessive
eructations, sourness, vomiting after food, duodenal ulcers, distended
feeling, pain right and left hypochondria and epigastrium, pain in gall
bladder, right sided rheumatics, renal colic, irritable before menses,
constipation - stool is hard and dry, itching painful piles, cannot sleep
but drowsy after food, night terrors - shouts in sleep, many skin eruptions
- psoriasis vesicles warts urticaria shingles, everything eating, digestive Sx secondary to nervous Sx, hands feel dead and burn
at night, contraction of palms and fingers, cramps in calves, feet feel
frozen, burning urethra, constipation s.a.i. ball in bowel, very itchy
piles, sensitive skin - boils and herpes. Associated remedies = Amm. Mur;
Aur. Mur; Apis; Bar. Mur; Borax; Conium; Cup. Met; Calc. Mur; Ferr. Mur;
Ign; Kali. Mur; Mag. Mur; Nat. Mur; Secale.

SYC. CO

Keynotes is irritability. Sallow puffy greasy skin, nervous, tense, cross,
restless, sensitive to cold, bites nails, outbursts of temper, fear of dark
and being left alone, fear of animals and dogs, infected sinus and mininges,
persistent H/A every week, H/A left side lasts for weeks, throbbings > heat
and rest < noise, H/A < menses, sweating of head at night, premature grey
hair, face is puffy in the morning, malignant growth right cheek, eyes
inflamed, deafness and excessive formation of wax, lots of nasal and post
nasal catarrh, cracks around mouth, deep ulcers on tongue, external goitre,
enlarged adenoids and tonsils, profuse mucous in throat in morning, asthma <
damp, cough < 2-3 am, hard cough 2/4/6 am, croupy coughs, averse to eggs fat
milk cream salt sugar veg tea vinegar cheese meat, << egg = nausea, << fat
onions oranges, desires butter fat cheese sweets milk salt, finicky
appetite, acid flatulence, chronic irritation of whole alimentary canal,
ankles swollen and stiff, feet restless at night in bed, uterine polyps,
malignancy, impotency, pain left ovary at menses, has to stool on rising,
restless sleep, night terrors, night perspiration < 12-4 am, wakes 2-3 am,
dreams of dead bodies, catarrhs in all forms anywhere. Associated remedies =
Antim. Tart; Ferrum Met; Nat. Sulph; Rhus. Tox; Thuja; Bacill.

There is not much information on Mutabile; Cocci; or Faecalis but the
associated remedies are thus:- MUTABILE = Ferrum Phos; Kali Sulph; Puls.
COCCI = Tub; Baccill. FAECALIS = Sepia.
If anyone has any illustrative cases of the Bowel Nosodes I am sure we would
be interested to read them.

Best wishes, Joy Lucas RSHom.


Rosemary Hyde
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Post by Rosemary Hyde »

Joy, Thanks very much for the bowel nosode info. This is a topic I haven't
seen treated very deeply, yet about which I was curious. I really
appreciate your helpfulness to the group members.

Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D>


freelynn
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Post by freelynn »

In addition to the book Joy mentions, there is valuable information on the
Bowel Nosodes in the following books:

The Bowel Nosodes, William P Mehan, ND
The Bowel Nosodes, John Patterson
A Repertory of the Bowel Nosodes, Murray Feldman
Allen's Keynotes with Nosodes, HC Allen (also has a section on Bowel Nosodes)

Lynn
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At 03:30 PM 1/5/2002 +0000, Joy Lucas wrote:


H. Balasubramanian
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Post by H. Balasubramanian »

Dear Members,
freelynn@exit109.com wrote:

In addition to the book Joy mentions, there is valuable information on the
Bowel Nosodes in the following books:
Please add the following books. B. Jain Publishers, India.
JULIAN O.A.
BJ2310 Intestinal Nosodes of Bach Paterson 1.50
BJ2311Materia Medica of Nosodes with Repertory 16.00
With best wishes,
H.B.
from India

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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

Colleagues should be reminded that Bowel nosodes should only prescribed if
there are indicated as in the case of any other remedy.

Rgds
Soroush


ehc
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Post by ehc »

Dave put up some good information on the nosodes
Does anyone else have some expertise to add to this? I am very interested in
learning on this topic and would be grateful for any information any of you
have or experience you have had.

Patient who has the 'heady feeling' after eating has finally told me a
little more. This is worse when bowels move. There is also white mucous
discharge with most bowel motion. Althought she is a little better on sepia
I would still like to have in mind which nosodes might be helpful to
consider. i.e. Morgan Gaerter for her with her sensitiveness and crying.

Any thoughts?

thanks

Beverly


Joy Lucas
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Post by Joy Lucas »

Dear Beverly, SEPIA is sensitive, SEPIA weeps. Why change the Rx especially
in light of recent discussions? If Sepia seems to be working then wouldn't
it be best to wait. Even if it weren't doing anything it is probably too
soon to change. Just my thoughts, best wishes, Joy.
Joy

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Post by Joy Lucas »

Also Beverly, as a PS, I forgot to say that Sepia also has stools glued
together with mucous. Joy
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ehc
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Post by ehc »

HI JOy,

I totally agree, with you. Only thinking ahead so I can get a handle on what
may be suitable if say sepia did not work and to educate myself on where the
nosodes fit in with patterns of symptoms. I have told the patient that I
want to keep using the sepia at the moment and reassess things later.
especially


ehc
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Post by ehc »

yes, I found that also, thanks for your help Joy.

Beverly


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