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Joy Lucas
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Re: Classical homoeopathy, complexes and list rules

Post by Joy Lucas »

where's the hypocrisy, Simom?


Simon King LCPH MARH
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Re: Classical homoeopathy, complexes and list rules

Post by Simon King LCPH MARH »

Sure Louise, or maybe we have just been on the lists tooo long and
got list fatigue? :-)

I'm all for good homeopathy, and not into promoting combo's
specifically over single prescriptions but neither can I abide the
other wild (IMO) esoterica and speculation that gets bandied about as
if it were any less suspect than combos, but it's all right because
some well known personality does it.

It's not that Im AGAINST that specifically either, some people can
obviously make it work, the point is that it is not more hahnemannian
nor classical than combos, so its the tacit acceptance of non
classical, non hahnemannian homeopathy, the mix and match philosophy
according to current "ok' 'authority sanctioned' trends that doesn't
ring true whilst railing against combos alone.

I am only concerned that this list promulgates all manner of non
classical non hahnemannian homeopathy IN THE NAME OF pure homeopathy
etc.

Were it to be made clear that there is more than classical homeopathy
being taught on the list I'd have no problem, but by using combos as
the scapegoat, all the other methods and perspectives that
Hahnemannian mentioned are creeping in by the back door and will be
absorbed by those not well enough informed as being classical
homeopathy.

I do think hahnemannian makes good posts but think he has the wit and
resilience to last whatever his stint needs to be. I also doubt David
Little's unquestioned expertise will dissappear as he also seems
indefatigable.

This contribution from the Much maligned ( and rightly so) Nhoj Eel
perhaps illustrates my point
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/homeopathy ... RA_MEDICA/
aliens_milk.html

as perhaps does this:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/homeopathy ... RA_MEDICA/
gerbil.html
This latter whilst having a plausable excuse, was nonetheless
designed to make a point
kind regards

Simon King
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Joy Lucas
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Post by Joy Lucas »

But Simon you are being esoteric in your criticisms - without
describing in more detail what you are criticising it is all in the air

what wild esoteric and speculation

why is it not hahnemannian

what else on this list is promoted that is in the name of pure
homeopathy but in your eyes isn't

what else is creeping in the back door

yield forth silicea else how do we know what you mean. Joy

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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Classical homoeopathy, complexes and list rules

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Simon,
Why do you you say this?
Are you suggesting that every post is "promulgating" something, so by
allowing someone to make a post about combos, we are "promulgating"
them? I don't think that's a supportable position, so maybe you meant
something else...

Every time something non-classical is posted (well, unless it's from
one of our non-classical but brilliant and currently well-loved
creative luminaries :-) ), "the list" makes it very clear that that
wasn't classical! What else do you feel should be done--or are you
just being too subtle for me again... / :-/
Shannon

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Simon King LCPH MARH
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Post by Simon King LCPH MARH »

I mean that it is classical homeopathy on the face of it that is
being promulgated yet other non hahnemannian aspects creep in under
the guise of CH.
and therefoere get promulgated along with CH, AS IF it were CH

I am not referring to things as obvious as Scholten or combos but,
core delusion delving and its matching to Rxs based not on clear
proving Sx but on esoterica e.g. giving rabbits foot because Px felt
lucky ( nott literally of course!)

But hopefully you know what I mean

kind regards

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Brian Garnant
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Re: Classical homoeopathy, complexes and list rules

Post by Brian Garnant »

I somewhat take exception to your post below in that it would seem incumbant to know MORE about homeopathy and study exceedingly dutifully in order to further Sankaran's methods in one's practice. Sankaran has maintained that an extremely thorough grounding in the Materia Medicas and repertoies, both plural, are quite necessary to understand how to incorporate his methods. On the contrary to what I seem to infer from your post, Sankaran has done extensive study and work to associate the periodic table with "states" that are present in the patient, a work that relies on his 25 years of study and practice. It is not "willy-nilly" homeopathy. Additionally, Sankaran underscores that his work is not complete, that it is an offering to further homeopathy. Hahneman never said that his own work was the end of the road. If Sankaran's methods helps some homeopaths to get to the cure, then I suspect that his methods will be furthered. If they do not, then no.
But I assert that a deeper study is performed, quite rightly, by those who use his methods.
Brian

hahnemannian2002 wrote:
Good suggestions-
Caveats-

1)What about discussing Sankaran's, Jurgen Becker's, Scholten's
methods? I would not consider them Hahnemannian Homeopathy. Last time
I saw, Hahnemann did not suggest making "designer' remedies out of
periodic table without proper proving. Or diagnosing medicines based
on Kingdoms - (even last week we saw someone suggesting Aconite
because plants have water or whatever....) Yet we see a lot of people
in this forum gung-ho about the periodic table process - laziness?
creativity?

He did not suggest giving Naja because a woman's saree looked like a
snake skin. He never asked one to theorize about Core Delusion... He
did not advice to do meditative proving... he did not ask people to
use Free Association ( in Divya's style) or talk about the mask or the
wall....

If these things can also be removed from discussion postings we can
start calling this Hahnemannian Classical homeopathy...( and still
would run into dry dose, water dose, 4th edition, 6th edition problems)

Would we consider discussing Burnett and Clarke proper for this forum?

How about Boericke- in some instances he talks about giving injections
by the grains-

Many great homeopaths from India have also used alternating remedy
practice...along with single medicine practice...

Once again I am not saying combos are good or should be suggested /
taught to every aspirant...I am just pointing out the inconsistencies
in these arguments... In this whole wide spectrum of practices there
is a corner available for combos as well... as long as we understand
that this is not a generally advised practice -

any new student who cannot see that this so - must have come from
Mars- without any kind of background... it is upto the educators,
trainers to point out the various ways of practice available and point
out the commonly accepted one( which is not delusional practice)...

Do you have to believe in miasms to be a "Classical" homeopathy
practitioner?
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Classical homoeopathy, complexes and list rules

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Ah, gotcha.
I would agree, but don't find it too disturbing.
Shannon
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muthu kumar
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Re: Classical homoeopathy, complexes and list rules

Post by muthu kumar »

#If Sankaran's methods helps some homeopaths to get to the cure, then
#I suspect that his methods will be furthered.

No arguments....

The same principle be applied to combinations


Brian Garnant
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Re: Classical homoeopathy, complexes and list rules

Post by Brian Garnant »

Yes. But please do not lump them together.

hahnemannian2002 wrote:
#If Sankaran's methods helps some homeopaths to get to the cure, then
#I suspect that his methods will be furthered.

No arguments....

The same principle be applied to combinations
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muthu kumar
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Re: Classical homoeopathy, complexes and list rules

Post by muthu kumar »

What a riot, what a laugh-Thanks
you should also publish the Alien's Key Notes ;-)

How about Hering's 3 laws of cure -
From something to nothing ( disease is gone)
From front to back ( Easy to hide the lesions)
From left to right ( whatever disease is left is righted)


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