Any recommendations?

[Lydilos]

I chose Aconite for a 14 mo old boy who went through surgery to fix
a
physical problem with his penis. They moved the urethra up in the
center and put more skin on the bottom so that it would be straight.

The doctors gave him an antibiotic for use after the surgery, as
most
children who have this surgery refuse to urinate because it hurts so
much. This refusal causes bladder infections, so the antibiotic is
used as a prevention.

This little angel was circumsised at the same time, to use the
foreskin in this operation.

Now, 48+ hours after surgery, he is a happy baby, but when it comes
time to pee, he screams in agony with pain, and cries the whole
time, arching his back. He trembles with the pain when his mom
changes his diaper.

He drinks water without a problem, and eats like normal. After
surgery docs said that he would not eat and if he did, would vomit.
He had all of the crackers they gave him, went home and ate more.

He is in greater pain at night.
A few remedies came to mind--

Hypericum, for the surgery and nerve-rich parts affected,
Arnica--swelling
Aconite--for preventing cystis, for the shock after the surgery, and
the unbearable pain.

I ended up using Aconite 30C with him, for the three major things.
Does anyone have any other recommendations? 30X was all I had, and
because of that, I recommended giving it very frequently.

He slept 3 hours straight between 2-5 am that night, but was up
before then. He slept from 6 am to 11 am, also. Mother said he is
not swollen as the Dr's said he would be. She also noted that he
seems to be calmer between urinating.

Kerry

[Joy Lucas]

why is the child in << pain at night, if there is no obvious reason
than that would be a strange sx - borax, apis, staphysagria and
cantharis come to mind though. Joy
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[AH]

on 7/16/06 9:31 AM, Lydilos at Lydilos@gmail.com wrote:

I chose Aconite for a 14 mo old boy who went through surgery to fix
a
physical problem with his penis. They moved the urethra up in the
center and put more skin on the bottom so that it would be straight.

The doctors gave him an antibiotic for use after the surgery, as
most
children who have this surgery refuse to urinate because it hurts so
much. This refusal causes bladder infections, so the antibiotic is
used as a prevention.

This little angel was circumsised at the same time, to use the
foreskin in this operation.

Now, 48+ hours after surgery, he is a happy baby, but when it comes
time to pee, he screams in agony with pain, and cries the whole
time, arching his back. He trembles with the pain when his mom
changes his diaper.

He drinks water without a problem, and eats like normal. After
surgery docs said that he would not eat and if he did, would vomit.
He had all of the crackers they gave him, went home and ate more.

He is in greater pain at night.
A few remedies came to mind--

Hypericum, for the surgery and nerve-rich parts affected,
Arnica--swelling
Aconite--for preventing cystis, for the shock after the surgery, and
the unbearable pain.

I ended up using Aconite 30C with him, for the three major things.
Does anyone have any other recommendations? 30X was all I had, and
because of that, I recommended giving it very frequently.

He slept 3 hours straight between 2-5 am that night, but was up
before then. He slept from 6 am to 11 am, also. Mother said he is
not swollen as the Dr's said he would be. She also noted that he
seems to be calmer between urinating.

Kerry

((( For your consideration, Kerry. No argument with acon, only other
possibles. Arnica and Hypericum, Calendula (internal rx) could be tried (in
alternation is one idea) for dealing with the nerve damage in general. For
the urethra per se: Canth; Mercury for worse at night if any other signs
(sweat, salivation, etc), or (wild card if other sx match) - Clematis

1. RUBRICS (Complete 2000)
Nerve [3] injury: all-c.22, alum.117, arn.36, bell-p.22, calen.54, chin.46,
chlf.8, cic.58, cur.54, glon., gunp., hecla.223, helod-c.205, helon.85,
3Hyper.8, kalm.1140, led.58, mag-p.54, meny.8, ph-ac.102, phasc-c.302,
phos., plb.117, puls., ruta, sep.28, spig.54, staph., stram.54, symph.108,
tarent.54, ter.54, ther.54, xan.223

Penis [sen] injury: Arn., calen., hyper., Mill., rhus-t., staph.
Urethra [sen] injury: arn., cop.

--Arnica for urethral injury, trembling -Arnica 3x: injuries of the
urethra, following the use of the catheter, bleeding, foul smelling
perspiration.

--Hypericum -- peripheral nerve injury of surgery

Injuries from sharp instruments, incised wounds: Led., Staph.
2. Searches(eliminative):

Penis/urethra/nerve/(sharp [3] instrument) [3] injury [rem] pain [4] night:
all-c.37, alum.117, apis3020, 3Arn.1, bell-p., calen.54, chin.46, chlf.8,
cic.155, cop.139, cur.54, glon., helon.85, 3Hyper.8, kalm.1140, led.58,
mag-p.54, ph-ac.102, phos., plb.36, puls., rhus-t.54, ruta, sep.28, spig.54,
3Staph.8, stram.54, tarent.54, ter.54, ther.

Cardinal remedies:
Hypericum for peripheral nerve injury, Arn for urethral injury, Ledum,
Staph for incisive wounds;

Lesser considerations:
All-c (not much help because is an infant who cannot specify) --Clinical.
This drug has been used for neuralgias following amputations or injuries of
nerves, characterized by fine, threadlike pains, shooting, but not burning
like those of Arsenic.

Inflammation [3] (pain [3] (night/night [2] agg/worse)): acon.11, calc-p.61,
canth.8, cinnb.54, clem.91, kali-i.188, mang.54, rhus-t.91, 3Zinc.8
canth: main rx urinary tract infection and pain rx

Lesser:
Clematis:pain worse at night in the warm bed, with distress on urinating,
from suppressed gonorrhoea; [STRICTURE OF URETHRA.] Long - lasting
contraction and constriction of urethra, urine passes only in drops;
frequent and scanty micturition; great burning at the commencement o
urination; when urinating, urethra is painful to touch agg. at night and
from heat of bed.

(pain [3] urination [3] (night/night [2] agg/worse)): 3Arist-cl., merc.,
tarent.

Mercury is cardinal for worse at night.

Best Regards,
A
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[AH]

Copaiva is also a consideration:
INJURED AT URETHRAL ORIFICE. 0>1>0
PENIS: PAIN: URETHRA, DURING INFLAMMATION OF. 0>1>0
URETHRA: ORIFICE: PAIN: WOUNDED, AS IF. 0>1>0

Inflammation of the urinary passages and adjacent parts. It has also been
known to cause inflammation of the urethra, retention of urine, phlegmasia
of the bladder, of the prostate, the anus and the rectum. It is interesting
to see this medicine prescribed by some physicians for almost the same
complaints which others have remarked that it causes. Inflammation and
swelling of the urethra with pains along the whole penis.
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[AH]

Not sure this one made it to list -- I did not receive. Sorry if is a
double for some.
((( For your consideration, Kerry. No argument with acon, oters-- only
other possibles. Arnica and Hypericum, Calendula (internal rx) could be
tried (in alternation is one idea) for dealing with the nerve damage in
general. For the urethra per se: Canth; Mercury for worse at night if any
other signs (sweat, salivation, etc), or (wild card if other sx match) -
Clematis

1. RUBRICS (Complete 2000)
Nerve [3] injury: all-c.22, alum.117, arn.36, bell-p.22, calen.54, chin.46,
chlf.8, cic.58, cur.54, glon., gunp., hecla.223, helod-c.205, helon.85,
3Hyper.8, kalm.1140, led.58, mag-p.54, meny.8, ph-ac.102, phasc-c.302,
phos., plb.117, puls., ruta, sep.28, spig.54, staph., stram.54, symph.108,
tarent.54, ter.54, ther.54, xan.223

Penis [sen] injury: Arn., calen., hyper., Mill., rhus-t., staph.
Urethra [sen] injury: arn., cop.

--Arnica for urethral injury, trembling -Arnica 3x: injuries of the
urethra, following the use of the catheter, bleeding, foul smelling
perspiration.

--Hypericum -- peripheral nerve injury of surgery

Injuries from sharp instruments, incised wounds: Led., Staph.
2. Searches(eliminative):

Penis/urethra/nerve/(sharp [3] instrument) [3] injury [rem] pain [4] night:
all-c.37, alum.117, apis3020, 3Arn.1, bell-p., calen.54, chin.46, chlf.8,
cic.155, cop.139, cur.54, glon., helon.85, 3Hyper.8, kalm.1140, led.58,
mag-p.54, ph-ac.102, phos., plb.36, puls., rhus-t.54, ruta, sep.28, spig.54,
3Staph.8, stram.54, tarent.54, ter.54, ther.

Cardinal remedies:
Hypericum for peripheral nerve injury, Arn for urethral injury, Ledum,
Staph for incisive wounds;

Lesser considerations:
All-c (not much help because is an infant who cannot specify) --Clinical.
This drug has been used for neuralgias following amputations or injuries of
nerves, characterized by fine, threadlike pains, shooting, but not burning
like those of Arsenic.

Inflammation [3] (pain [3] (night/night [2] agg/worse)): acon.11, calc-p.61,
canth.8, cinnb.54, clem.91, kali-i.188, mang.54, rhus-t.91, 3Zinc.8
canth: main rx urinary tract infection and pain rx

Lesser:
Clematis:pain worse at night in the warm bed, with distress on urinating,
from suppressed gonorrhoea; [STRICTURE OF URETHRA.] Long - lasting
contraction and constriction of urethra, urine passes only in drops;
frequent and scanty micturition; great burning at the commencement o
urination; when urinating, urethra is painful to touch agg. at night and
from heat of bed.

(pain [3] urination [3] (night/night [2] agg/worse)): 3Arist-cl., merc.,
tarent.

Mercury is cardinal for worse at night.

Best Regards,
A
on 7/16/06 9:31 AM, Lydilos at Lydilos@gmail.com wrote:

I chose Aconite for a 14 mo old boy who went through surgery to fix
a
physical problem with his penis. They moved the urethra up in the
center and put more skin on the bottom so that it would be straight.

The doctors gave him an antibiotic for use after the surgery, as
most
children who have this surgery refuse to urinate because it hurts so
much. This refusal causes bladder infections, so the antibiotic is
used as a prevention.

This little angel was circumsised at the same time, to use the
foreskin in this operation.

Now, 48+ hours after surgery, he is a happy baby, but when it comes
time to pee, he screams in agony with pain, and cries the whole
time, arching his back. He trembles with the pain when his mom
changes his diaper.

He drinks water without a problem, and eats like normal. After
surgery docs said that he would not eat and if he did, would vomit.
He had all of the crackers they gave him, went home and ate more.

He is in greater pain at night.
A few remedies came to mind--

Hypericum, for the surgery and nerve-rich parts affected,
Arnica--swelling
Aconite--for preventing cystis, for the shock after the surgery, and
the unbearable pain.

I ended up using Aconite 30C with him, for the three major things.
Does anyone have any other recommendations? 30X was all I had, and
because of that, I recommended giving it very frequently.

He slept 3 hours straight between 2-5 am that night, but was up
before then. He slept from 6 am to 11 am, also. Mother said he is
not swollen as the Dr's said he would be. She also noted that he
seems to be calmer between urinating.

Kerry
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[Lydilos]

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, AH wrote:
Thanks for your responses AH. I will be looking into them more
tomorrow. And yes, I did get the first one. )
Cheers.
((( For your consideration, Kerry. No argument with acon, only other
tried (in alternation is one idea) for dealing with the nerve damage
in general. For the urethra per se: Canth; Mercury for worse at
night if any other signs (sweat, salivation, etc), or (wild card if
other sx match) - Clematis

[Lydilos]

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Joy Lucas" wrote:

In general, pain threshold is lower at night, but he cries out day and
night when he has to urinate.

He was also peeing with blood which has diminished more, but still
present.

I checked out your recommendations, Borax doesn't fit, but Apis could
be a good fit, for the red and inflamation, and I could see a definite
case for Cantharis.

I'm truly not sure what to make of the pain. He acts like nothing
happened for the most part, except perhaps walking wider so he doesn't
touch the injured site. until he has to pee. Then it's obvious that
it smarts a lot.

Warm room, warm diaper, both make the situation more uncomfortable.
Didn't have my Vol. 3 book to look up Staph. Will do that tomorrow.

THanks for your input.

[Joy Lucas]

We all have our body clocks to consider and thus pain will be more
tolerated at certain times of the day or night but this sx << night,
should be considered particular to the case if a strong enough sx.

Can you say why the pain is there - one would think from post-op (why I
suggested Staph), but then he would be unhappy and in pain most of the
time?? So what is actually causing the pain - distention, tissues
stretching, pulling muscles, urethra, bladder emptying, or actual urine
causing pain due to excoriation etc. Obviously difficult to tell with a
child if they cannot tell you although if the skin is sore and red that
would be a useful sign to say there is burning pain or something like
it strong enough to make him scream with the pain.

Can I ask why you thought Borax didn't fit? Sarsaparilla is another to
think about when a child screams before (during and after) urination,
but if this is all post-op sx I would think more towards Calendula or
Staph (maybe even Bellis). Best, Joy

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[Chris_Gillen]

Hi Kerry,
I think your first choice of Aconite was very good and hopefully the little
boy is already showing more signs of improvement by now and no further
action is necessary. If not, my thoughts would be centred on Cantharis and
Pulsatilla. Cantharis first because it is noted for the acute nature of
burning pains at all stages of urination, beginning, during, end and even
immediately after urination, which can be due to its characteristic
inflammation of the urethra. Also worth considering is Pulsatilla in this
urinary tract context as it is an allied remedy to Cantharis. Consider it as
well, for the general symptoms of the patient you state, e.g. worse warmth,
warm room and the tendency for pains to be felt more in the evening and at
night. Since you are closer to the case than anyone else it would be a
judgement call whether to base the symptoms on acute urethral inflammation
with burning pains, or the more general symptoms of the patient's reactions
to his trauma. (Pulsatilla is also in the highest grade for < during
urination.)
By the way, Thirstlessness during the pains is a keynote of Pulsatilla, but
if he is drinking moderate amounts of water at other times this does not
contradict Pulsatilla, only if he is thirsty or anxiously gulping down huge
amounts of water would be a counter-indication. In the proving, Pulsatilla
produced haematuria and burning at the meatus, so those symptoms it can also
cure.
Hope useful,
Chris.