*tinctures for bites

[Theresa Partington]

Hi Rochelle
I think you are missing my point here. 1x's are of course available from all
homeopathic pharmacies and are *potentised remedies*, with no direct
comparison to the herbalists' remedies. They are the first stage of the
potentisation process that takes us up to CM, MM etc. and involve
succussion.
Mother tinctures, on the other hand are not potentised and it is possible to
make various comparisons.
The homeopathic manufacturing pharmacies have these for all herbal remedies,
poisonous or not, but will not sell you the more toxic ones as MTs.
When you rang , Helios may have said that the strength of their tinctures
was equivalent to 1 in 10 ( I doubt they said they were all 1x's - at least
John Morgan wouldn't have). Since then large scale retail outlets like
Helios have had to knuckle down to EU directives on manufacture of
homeopathic medicines and follow one of two set protocols (at least this is
how I understand it). The French process still lands you with a product
broadly equivalent to a herbalist's 1 in 10 dilution, but the German one
gives you something like 1 in 2 or 3 depending on the plant. There are
individual variations. The German monographs seems to be preferred by UK
pharmacies.
Arguably, there may be other differences between MTs and herbal tinctures
but I was really just picking up on the statement about MT strength and
1x's. Things have changed.
BW
Theresa

Subject: Fw: [Minutus] tinctures for bites

Hi Teresa,
I actually phoned Helios where I buy my Rx and asked!!! They admitted that
their tinctures were 1x and that is why they were clear (my herbal ones can
sometimes be murky from the herbs) and a paler colour than my herbal ones.
However I also remember them saying they were wondering about making them
"proper" MTs. However while I can buy 1/2 litre of a herbal tincture for the
same price as 10ml of homeopathic MT I will continue to use the herbal
ones!!

Rochelle
Registered Homeopath, EFT(Advanced)Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Kerry]

Hi Rochelle

Can I ask where you buy your herbal tinctures from. I am in the UK and
interested in sources for these.

Thanks
Kerry

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[Rochelle Marsden]

I buy mine from Herbal Apothecary now known as Natures Laboratory - 01947
896009 - you will have to prove you are a homeopath to buy from them. I have
also bought from Proline - 01780 753366. Phone both and ask them to send you
a catalogue.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath, EFT(Advanced)Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Kerry]

Thanks for the info Rochelle.

Kerry

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[helipharm]

Hi Rochelle, Teresa and Kerry

As the Technical Director of Helios, I can assure you that our tinctures
are not 1X, and are not pale in colour unless that is the natural colour
of the tincture. Our tinctures are made according to the German or
French Homoeopathic Pharmacopoeias and are sold as such without
dilution. Our 1X potency is the 1st dilution made from the mother
tincture. I hope this clarifies, but if you have any further queries,
please let me know.

Best wishes,
Bob Lawrence
Helios
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[Kerry]

Many thanks Bob, for clarifying the issue.
Regards
Kerry
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[Rochelle Marsden]

How interesting. Then why should I have been told differently when I phoned?
However I am going back probably about 5 years. Were they 1x then? I
distinctly remember the conversation as whoever it was I was talking to said
that they were considering not making them 1x. Can you please explain how
Homeopathic MT differs from a Herbal tincture?

Rochelle
Registered Homeopath, EFT(Advanced)Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Joy Lucas]

Do you use Grindelia - I would definitely add this MT to the list for
soothing bites, best wishes, Joy

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[Rochelle Marsden]

Dear Joy,

No, Grindelia is one I don't know of. Do you use it topically?

Rochelle
Registered Homeopath, EFT(Advanced)Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Joy Lucas]

Yes, when the sx fit - this rx has severe burning with the bites as
well as the usual itching and surrounding areas of the bite go a sort
of purplish colour. There is often a craving for heat though, being out
in the sun, also Indicated in so called poison oak. Best wishes, Joy

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