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kcallen2
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Rubric help - visual prodrome to HA

Post by kcallen2 »

What rubric would I use for a visual disturbance that comes before headaches and looks like the heat waves you would see if you looked above a hot stove in the sunlight. He sees these in the periphery of his vision. If you could list the remedies as well I would be very appreciative for that.

Thanks for any help.

Karen

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Robyn
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Re: Rubric help - visual prodrome to HA

Post by Robyn »

here's one from Synthesis

VISION - FLICKERING - headache - before

aran. aur-m-n. Graph. iris Nat-m. Plat. Psor. Sars. sep. Sulph. ther.
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DCR
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Re: Rubric help - visual prodrome to HA

Post by DCR »

The effect that you describe of optical diffraction (as above a hot stove, or on hot pavement) is called the 'schlieren effect'.

Visual effects prior to onset of or during migraine headaches are very common. I don't have a rubric for this prodrome, but do have a short list of remedies I have found particularly effective in such migraines : Belladonna, Chelidonium Maj., Cyclamen Europ., Gelsemium Semp. and Sepia. Not a 'this for that' list, just a few remedies to consider whenever migraines include intense visual effects.


muthu kumar
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Re: Rubric help - visual prodrome to HA

Post by muthu kumar »

1) From Knerr's repertory
Eyes Illusion flickering;( also trembling, wavering,quivering, waves,
fluttering, flimmering)
Eyes Illusion Flickering - before headache - Diad, Psor.
with headache - Caps, Graph, Lach, Sars

Illusion waves - objects tremulous - Calab
Headache, eyes, objects dancing before eyes, before headache - Psor

Headache preceded by flickering before eyes, must lie down - Cycl
flickering on rising in morning - Cycl, multi colors - Cycl
Eyes, heat - as if surrounded by a hot vapor - Bell

2) From Boericke
Head, Headache - Concomitants- Eyes blindness or visual disturbances
precede or attend - Anhal, Bell, Cycl, Epiph, Gels, Ign, Iris, Kali
bich, Kali c, Lac c, Lac d, Nat.m, Niccol, Nux v, Picr.ac, Pod, Psor,
Sang, Sil, Spig, Ther, Zinc.s

Eyes, Optical Illusions- Flashes, flames,flickering - Agar, Aloe,
Bell,Calc.fl, Caust, Clem, Cycl, Glon, Hep, Ign, Iris, Lyc, Phos,
Physo, Puls, Senega, Viol.o

Combining these - Bell, Cycl, Ign, Iris

3) From Sensations As If Roberts
Eyes- Surrounded by hot vapor - Bell
by a white vapor - Bell
waves before eyes - Phys
I would consider Bell mainly, all the others also merit attention,

Of course there should be consideration given for other
concomitants, since this looks like migraine triggering factors,
location and extension, kind of pain all would be important, Menstrual
history if woman would be very important esp. if associated with the
headache somehow.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
headaches and looks like the heat waves you would see if you looked
above a hot stove in the sunlight. He sees these in the periphery of
his vision. If you could list the remedies as well I would be very
appreciative for that.


Sheri Nakken
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Re: Rubric help - visual prodrome to HA

Post by Sheri Nakken »

At 01:38 PM 5/26/2006 -0400, you wrote:
headaches and looks like the heat waves you would see if you looked above a
hot stove in the sunlight. He sees these in the periphery of his vision.
If you could list the remedies as well I would be very appreciative for that.
This is a typical prodrome of migraine-type headaches.
Nothing exactly as you have described

Here are some possible rubrics
HEAD - PAIN - accompanied by - vision
HEAD - PAIN - accompanied by - vision - colors before the eyes
HEAD - PAIN - alternating with - vision
HEAD - PAIN - followed by - vision; dim
HEAD - PAIN - vision; from complaints of
HEAD - PAIN - Sides - right - blurred vision before the attack
HEAD - PAIN - drawing - Forehead - Eyes, above - projecting; sensation as
if eyes were - thread were tightly drawn through eyeball; sensation as if -
Brain; and backward into middle of - vision; with weak
VISION - ACCOMMODATION - defective - headache; causing
VISION - BLURRED - headache
VISION - COLORS before the eyes - black - rings, circles - headache, before
VISION - COLORS before the eyes - black - spots - headache
VISION - COLORS before the eyes - blue - flashes - headache, during
VISION - COLORS before the eyes - blue - stars - headache, during
VISION - DANCING - headache, before
VISION - DIM - left - headache; with right-sided
VISION - DIM - headache
VISION - DIPLOPIA - headache
VISION - FLICKERING - morning - headache, with
VISION - FLICKERING - headache
VISION - FOGGY - headache, during
VISION - HYPERMETROPIA - headache; during
VISION - LOSS OF VISION - headache
VISION - SPARKS - headache
VISION - SPOTS - headache
VISION - STARS - headache; before
VISION - ZIGZAGS - headache
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