heel spurs
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: heel spurs
Has anyone here seen heel spurs to be reabsorbed, or is it just the
discomfort that is resolved by the remedy? (In addition to calc-fl, I
assume the rubric "Extremities, exostoses" is the relevant one--or is
that process basically different from what gives rise to heel spurs?
(I gather that heel spurs are basically a traumatic response, whereas
exostoses aren't?)
Thanks!
Shannon
discomfort that is resolved by the remedy? (In addition to calc-fl, I
assume the rubric "Extremities, exostoses" is the relevant one--or is
that process basically different from what gives rise to heel spurs?
(I gather that heel spurs are basically a traumatic response, whereas
exostoses aren't?)
Thanks!
Shannon
Re: heel spurs
several cases of bone spurs but I always thought that exostoses was more bone thickening
rather than bone projection, not quite the same?? Some reps have a specific rubric for
bone spurs. Best, Joy
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rather than bone projection, not quite the same?? Some reps have a specific rubric for
bone spurs. Best, Joy
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Re: heel spurs
I meant also to add the rubric 'bone, swelling, osteophyte' and 'bone, swelling, nodes and
nodosities' and possibly 'bone, swelling, tophi' which pertains to uric acid diathesis but
could be relevant depending on the cause of the spurs. Joy
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thickening
wrote:
nodosities' and possibly 'bone, swelling, tophi' which pertains to uric acid diathesis but
could be relevant depending on the cause of the spurs. Joy
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thickening
wrote:
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: heel spurs
Hi Joy,
I'm fuzzy on all of it, but it did seem to me that exostoses is not
really the same--I just couldn't think of anything else. If anyone can
send a rubric for bone spurs, I'd love to see!
Thanks!
Shannon
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I'm fuzzy on all of it, but it did seem to me that exostoses is not
really the same--I just couldn't think of anything else. If anyone can
send a rubric for bone spurs, I'd love to see!
Thanks!
Shannon
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Re: heel spurs
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Pauline Ashford
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Re: heel spurs
Dear Shannon I have used Hekla lava with good results on heel spurs. They
then back up with Calc Fluor 6X whenever the area starts to feel inflamed
or like something may be stirring again.
Main guiding symptom was < for touch and pressure (so to me this included
pressure from weight on foot while walking, running etc and they did not
like me to touch the affected area) and not much else to go by. Hope this
helps regards Pauline
then back up with Calc Fluor 6X whenever the area starts to feel inflamed
or like something may be stirring again.
Main guiding symptom was < for touch and pressure (so to me this included
pressure from weight on foot while walking, running etc and they did not
like me to touch the affected area) and not much else to go by. Hope this
helps regards Pauline
Re: heel spurs
Hi Joy,
I'm fuzzy on all of it, but it did seem to me that exostoses is not
really the same--I just couldn't think of anything else. If anyone can
send a rubric for bone spurs, I'd love to see!
Thanks!
Shannon
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Shannon, a bone spur IS an exostosis. Any simple search on the net would have given you this information. A benign protruberence of bone-- and in the case of heel often associated with plantar fasciitis. One theory is that is due to calcium deficiency leading to leaching, leading to an eruption of calcium in a spot of weakness --- but others are that the spot of weakness leads to plantar fasciitis/irritation in that spot, which then leads to the response of calcium buildup ---- chicken/egg problem.
Heel exostoses/spurs, are often called calcaneal exostoses, and can occur under the heal and at the back (pump bump) from wearing high heels. Another name is osteophyte. They can form on any bone but most commonly form where bones meet each other — in joints — but they can also be found where ligaments and tendons connect with bone. They can form in the knees, hips, elbow, shoulders, fingers and feet and on the bones of the spine.
I have read that with calcium supplementation, designed for maximum absorption, heel spurs have been gone in a few months --- interesting
Homeopathic treatment seems to take a few months of taking a rem and more as well, probably because of the location it is constantly irritated. I have read that they have gone, and also read that the pain goes but the protruberence does not fully go.
In the reps, under extremeties and the general section you will find exostosis rems, and there are some I know of not in there as well, such as Ant crud 6 for heel spur.
Murphy has a rubric for bone spur, but it does not have as many rems in it as does exostosis.
You have reference works, have you looked in there?
I have info on clinical use of Ledum 200, Hypericum 200, Rhus tox 30, Colchicum 30 Hepar sulph 200, Ant.crud 6, Sepia 200, Phos ac 6, and Symphytum 200 ----- depending on the picture and the stage
Symphytum and Calc have clinically shown to remove lumbar and thoracic region spurs. And, Calc has been useful for skull exostoses. There are lots of snippets in the literature about it.
Best
Robyn
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I'm fuzzy on all of it, but it did seem to me that exostoses is not
really the same--I just couldn't think of anything else. If anyone can
send a rubric for bone spurs, I'd love to see!
Thanks!
Shannon
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Shannon, a bone spur IS an exostosis. Any simple search on the net would have given you this information. A benign protruberence of bone-- and in the case of heel often associated with plantar fasciitis. One theory is that is due to calcium deficiency leading to leaching, leading to an eruption of calcium in a spot of weakness --- but others are that the spot of weakness leads to plantar fasciitis/irritation in that spot, which then leads to the response of calcium buildup ---- chicken/egg problem.
Heel exostoses/spurs, are often called calcaneal exostoses, and can occur under the heal and at the back (pump bump) from wearing high heels. Another name is osteophyte. They can form on any bone but most commonly form where bones meet each other — in joints — but they can also be found where ligaments and tendons connect with bone. They can form in the knees, hips, elbow, shoulders, fingers and feet and on the bones of the spine.
I have read that with calcium supplementation, designed for maximum absorption, heel spurs have been gone in a few months --- interesting
Homeopathic treatment seems to take a few months of taking a rem and more as well, probably because of the location it is constantly irritated. I have read that they have gone, and also read that the pain goes but the protruberence does not fully go.
In the reps, under extremeties and the general section you will find exostosis rems, and there are some I know of not in there as well, such as Ant crud 6 for heel spur.
Murphy has a rubric for bone spur, but it does not have as many rems in it as does exostosis.
You have reference works, have you looked in there?
I have info on clinical use of Ledum 200, Hypericum 200, Rhus tox 30, Colchicum 30 Hepar sulph 200, Ant.crud 6, Sepia 200, Phos ac 6, and Symphytum 200 ----- depending on the picture and the stage
Symphytum and Calc have clinically shown to remove lumbar and thoracic region spurs. And, Calc has been useful for skull exostoses. There are lots of snippets in the literature about it.
Best
Robyn
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: heel spurs
Exostose is a growth from the bone, a heel spur is a calcification of the
plantar fascia which is starting at the heel, so it LOOKS like it comes out
of the heel but in fact is not related to it at all.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
plantar fascia which is starting at the heel, so it LOOKS like it comes out
of the heel but in fact is not related to it at all.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".
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muthu kumar
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Re: heel spurs
I have seen some spurs going away, some not and some patients going
away in disgust
I have also used Hekla lava, Silicea, Calc.fluor. Thiosinaminum.
Apart from medicines with tissue affinity for bones, I have also
selected medicines based on the actual sensation described by the
patients. I use sensations as if book for working out many of these-
Some patients complain of numbness and coldness and swollen
sensation in the area- Aranea diadema ( which specifically has an
affinity for calcaneus bone) , Heloderma have been useful. ( walking
on sponge / pillow sensation has been guiding in many feet
conditions including diabetic neuritis).
The following are some of my indications I have tried. I have seen
this condition in many diabetes patients-
complaints start in cold weather < night, feels stepping on stones (
gold nuggets??) - Aurum
in summer , feeling of pins, nails < first movement better slow
walking < evenining - Puls
in wet weather , pains like pins or stones, < first stepping out in
morning - Rhus tox
pains like large nails, burning , with diabetes - Natr.sul
If the medicine has a definitive tissue affinity and past proof to
have worked on bone conditions if available - is good - but this is
not always a must.. most medicines tissue affinity is not completely
known... use sensations caused as your guide...
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not
can
would have given you this information. A benign protruberence of
bone-- and in the case of heel often associated with plantar
fasciitis. One theory is that is due to calcium deficiency leading
to leaching, leading to an eruption of calcium in a spot of
weakness --- but others are that the spot of weakness leads to
plantar fasciitis/irritation in that spot, which then leads to the
response of calcium buildup ---- chicken/egg problem.
can occur under the heal and at the back (pump bump) from wearing
high heels. Another name is osteophyte. They can form on any bone
but most commonly form where bones meet each other â€" in joints â€"
but they can also be found where ligaments and tendons connect with
bone. They can form in the knees, hips, elbow, shoulders, fingers
and feet and on the bones of the spine.
maximum absorption, heel spurs have been gone in a few months ---
interesting
and more as well, probably because of the location it is constantly
irritated. I have read that they have gone, and also read that the
pain goes but the protruberence does not fully go.
find exostosis rems, and there are some I know of not in there as
well, such as Ant crud 6 for heel spur.
rems in it as does exostosis.
30, Colchicum 30 Hepar sulph 200, Ant.crud 6, Sepia 200, Phos ac 6,
and Symphytum 200 ----- depending on the picture and the stage
thoracic region spurs. And, Calc has been useful for skull
exostoses. There are lots of snippets in the literature about it.
7/28/2006
away in disgust
I have also used Hekla lava, Silicea, Calc.fluor. Thiosinaminum.
Apart from medicines with tissue affinity for bones, I have also
selected medicines based on the actual sensation described by the
patients. I use sensations as if book for working out many of these-
Some patients complain of numbness and coldness and swollen
sensation in the area- Aranea diadema ( which specifically has an
affinity for calcaneus bone) , Heloderma have been useful. ( walking
on sponge / pillow sensation has been guiding in many feet
conditions including diabetic neuritis).
The following are some of my indications I have tried. I have seen
this condition in many diabetes patients-
complaints start in cold weather < night, feels stepping on stones (
gold nuggets??) - Aurum
in summer , feeling of pins, nails < first movement better slow
walking < evenining - Puls
in wet weather , pains like pins or stones, < first stepping out in
morning - Rhus tox
pains like large nails, burning , with diabetes - Natr.sul
If the medicine has a definitive tissue affinity and past proof to
have worked on bone conditions if available - is good - but this is
not always a must.. most medicines tissue affinity is not completely
known... use sensations caused as your guide...
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Robyn" wrote:
not
can
would have given you this information. A benign protruberence of
bone-- and in the case of heel often associated with plantar
fasciitis. One theory is that is due to calcium deficiency leading
to leaching, leading to an eruption of calcium in a spot of
weakness --- but others are that the spot of weakness leads to
plantar fasciitis/irritation in that spot, which then leads to the
response of calcium buildup ---- chicken/egg problem.
can occur under the heal and at the back (pump bump) from wearing
high heels. Another name is osteophyte. They can form on any bone
but most commonly form where bones meet each other â€" in joints â€"
but they can also be found where ligaments and tendons connect with
bone. They can form in the knees, hips, elbow, shoulders, fingers
and feet and on the bones of the spine.
maximum absorption, heel spurs have been gone in a few months ---
interesting
and more as well, probably because of the location it is constantly
irritated. I have read that they have gone, and also read that the
pain goes but the protruberence does not fully go.
find exostosis rems, and there are some I know of not in there as
well, such as Ant crud 6 for heel spur.
rems in it as does exostosis.
30, Colchicum 30 Hepar sulph 200, Ant.crud 6, Sepia 200, Phos ac 6,
and Symphytum 200 ----- depending on the picture and the stage
thoracic region spurs. And, Calc has been useful for skull
exostoses. There are lots of snippets in the literature about it.
7/28/2006
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: heel spurs
Thanks, Pauline! What potency and repetition have you used?
Shannon
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