At 09:01 PM 5/30/2006 +0100, you wrote:
you and me both.
Sheri
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rabies- prophylactic ?
rabies- prophylactic ?
On 31 May 2006, at 05:07, Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
If I have time I would like to do more research on this but that is the
inference I am getting from the bit of research I have done.
Not sure but each individual will react differently as sensitivity will
be expressed in either a very small amount or tolerance of much larger
amounts.
I am keeping an open mind but so called Rabies could be yet another
example of a condition we have been 'told' is viral but actually might
be a poisonous state. Who knows? Best wishes, Joy
If I have time I would like to do more research on this but that is the
inference I am getting from the bit of research I have done.
Not sure but each individual will react differently as sensitivity will
be expressed in either a very small amount or tolerance of much larger
amounts.
I am keeping an open mind but so called Rabies could be yet another
example of a condition we have been 'told' is viral but actually might
be a poisonous state. Who knows? Best wishes, Joy
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Re: rabies- prophylactic ?
Hi Sheri,
I have RefWks, now about six years old. Interesting that none of this
material came out the several times over the previous years that the
subject came up! But I'm very happy to see it coming out now (tho
hopefully will never need it myself!) Below:
Sheri, where are you quoting from? Can anyone tell me where to read
about Hering's experience with Lyssin? (So much for "isopathy" being a
uniformly dumb idea...)
Anyway, if anyone has time to send any of these cures, I would love to
read!
Thanks,
Shannon
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I have RefWks, now about six years old. Interesting that none of this
material came out the several times over the previous years that the
subject came up! But I'm very happy to see it coming out now (tho
hopefully will never need it myself!) Below:
Sheri, where are you quoting from? Can anyone tell me where to read
about Hering's experience with Lyssin? (So much for "isopathy" being a
uniformly dumb idea...)
Anyway, if anyone has time to send any of these cures, I would love to
read!
Thanks,
Shannon
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Re: rabies- prophylactic ?
Hi Joy,
Potassium kills in an ENTIRELY different way from rabies, and it dose
not leave the characteristic brain lesions of rabies. Neither does it
leave behind the rabies spirochettes.
And what would be the practical difference?
What might be the toxins one gets from a bat bite, for instance?
Shannon
Potassium kills in an ENTIRELY different way from rabies, and it dose
not leave the characteristic brain lesions of rabies. Neither does it
leave behind the rabies spirochettes.
And what would be the practical difference?
What might be the toxins one gets from a bat bite, for instance?
Shannon
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On 31 May 2006, at 16:00, Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
Oh really. I am not nearly as good as Sheri and others at providing
research url's but you might be interested in looking yourself at the
relationship that potassium has in so called rabies + look at some of
the kaliums (as homeopathic rx sx pictures), especially kali iod and
kali cyan.
I am still opting for the poison slant, one so great that there is no
time to adapt and for the vital force to recover and hence the poor
recovery rate (outside of homeopathy that is, that sadly doesn't get
enough opportunities to show its efficacy) but there will still be
issues of susceptibility first and foremost, then individual symptoms
etc, whatever you want to name as the onslaught.
My contribution to all of this has been mainly from a homeopathic point
of view and I am not sure I can keep repeating that point of view in so
many different ways, so I'm moving on from this now, mainly due to lack
of time. Best wishes, Joy
Oh really. I am not nearly as good as Sheri and others at providing
research url's but you might be interested in looking yourself at the
relationship that potassium has in so called rabies + look at some of
the kaliums (as homeopathic rx sx pictures), especially kali iod and
kali cyan.
I am still opting for the poison slant, one so great that there is no
time to adapt and for the vital force to recover and hence the poor
recovery rate (outside of homeopathy that is, that sadly doesn't get
enough opportunities to show its efficacy) but there will still be
issues of susceptibility first and foremost, then individual symptoms
etc, whatever you want to name as the onslaught.
My contribution to all of this has been mainly from a homeopathic point
of view and I am not sure I can keep repeating that point of view in so
many different ways, so I'm moving on from this now, mainly due to lack
of time. Best wishes, Joy
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I don't see how a bat bite could inject enough potassium to cause *any*
symptoms, let alone rabies, or how that could account for the
latency/"incubation" period. How much potassium can you fit into a bat
bite? And how much does the body already contain, in various forms?
Perhaps the body's potassium regulation system is damaged by the
effects of the spirochette (or is it called a virus? I forget), and
thereby give rise to part of the symptom picture? That sounds
plausible, tho I really don't know.
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symptoms, let alone rabies, or how that could account for the
latency/"incubation" period. How much potassium can you fit into a bat
bite? And how much does the body already contain, in various forms?
Perhaps the body's potassium regulation system is damaged by the
effects of the spirochette (or is it called a virus? I forget), and
thereby give rise to part of the symptom picture? That sounds
plausible, tho I really don't know.
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At 09:38 AM 5/31/2006 -0500, you wrote:
I would have to look it up again.
And YES isopathy is a uniformly dumb idea unless the symptom picture matches.
There were many other remedies discussed in many books
.......................I just posted the Lyssin ones as it was said there
was no proof of Lyssin cures.
ALWAYS the symptom picture has to match.
Sheri
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I would have to look it up again.
And YES isopathy is a uniformly dumb idea unless the symptom picture matches.
There were many other remedies discussed in many books
.......................I just posted the Lyssin ones as it was said there
was no proof of Lyssin cures.
ALWAYS the symptom picture has to match.
Sheri
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Re: rabies- prophylactic ?
Subject: Re: rabies- prophylactic ?
Just a couple of miscellaneous thoughts on this:
*When Pasteur first used the virus ( not Spirochete) to make a vaccine he killed people - surely there would not have been any potassium in what he used ?? I genuinely don't know.Wouldn't he have extracted the virus?
*If susceptibility were the whole story then we would each always fall ill in the same way whereas people in same environment will often fall ill in the same way as each other. Bit obvious really.
*In my Favourite Book of the Month, Monera, Vermeulen says that there are 100 trillion cells in average human adult, 90 trillian of which are bacteria. As he says, it is a good thing the human economy is not run as a democracy!
*on the subject of rabies deaths, there was a fellow in Scotland who died of it a few years ago, following a bat bite. He was the only one in the battery (?) not to have been vaccinated as he relied on homeopathy. Oh dear.
Don't you think we all agree that degrees of susceptibility are central to whether we get ill or how ill we get but that some little pathogens are harder to resist than others? As Vermeulen says, there is no such thing as a friendly smallpox virus and you cannot domesticate a malarial parasite.They just do what they do best if they can get away with it.
Theresa
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Just a couple of miscellaneous thoughts on this:
*When Pasteur first used the virus ( not Spirochete) to make a vaccine he killed people - surely there would not have been any potassium in what he used ?? I genuinely don't know.Wouldn't he have extracted the virus?
*If susceptibility were the whole story then we would each always fall ill in the same way whereas people in same environment will often fall ill in the same way as each other. Bit obvious really.
*In my Favourite Book of the Month, Monera, Vermeulen says that there are 100 trillion cells in average human adult, 90 trillian of which are bacteria. As he says, it is a good thing the human economy is not run as a democracy!
*on the subject of rabies deaths, there was a fellow in Scotland who died of it a few years ago, following a bat bite. He was the only one in the battery (?) not to have been vaccinated as he relied on homeopathy. Oh dear.
Don't you think we all agree that degrees of susceptibility are central to whether we get ill or how ill we get but that some little pathogens are harder to resist than others? As Vermeulen says, there is no such thing as a friendly smallpox virus and you cannot domesticate a malarial parasite.They just do what they do best if they can get away with it.
Theresa
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Survival of the fittest reigns and you've probably misunderstood the
concept of susceptibility. The whole point of potassium is that it is
either a leveler or a catalyst and dependent on what levels exist in
the victims or the perpetrators. We are all speculating on this anyway
and we either choose to believe our homeopathic forbears or the
allopathic ones. Joy
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concept of susceptibility. The whole point of potassium is that it is
either a leveler or a catalyst and dependent on what levels exist in
the victims or the perpetrators. We are all speculating on this anyway
and we either choose to believe our homeopathic forbears or the
allopathic ones. Joy
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http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
http://homepage.mac.com/joylucas/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/provings
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Joy wrote:
What do you mean? Are you speaking of the potassium in the body, or
potassium presumed to have poisoned, or ?
Which of our homeopathic forebears thought that wounds cannot become
"infected", microscopic life forms cannot cause disease, and diseases
cannot be "caught"?
What do you mean? Are you speaking of the potassium in the body, or
potassium presumed to have poisoned, or ?
Which of our homeopathic forebears thought that wounds cannot become
"infected", microscopic life forms cannot cause disease, and diseases
cannot be "caught"?