Medicines to be avoided during Pregnancy

[navneet bidani]

Dear Group Members,

I was reading in some book that during Pregnancy we should avoid medicines like Pulsatilla, Nat Mur, Secale Cor. etc.....
These medicines can bring back the menstrual flow leading to abortion.
Should we?

If the constitution of a person is say Pulsatilla, than we should not give it during pregnancy, is that so? Means let the patient suffer from the disease for the whole 9 months.

Does anyone has any experiance in favour of this?

Surely, a topic to be discussed.....

Regards,

Dr. Navneet Bidani
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[muthu kumar]

I have given all these medicines in pregnancy. Remedies in potencies
only establish harmony in the body if they are not repeated
indiscriminately and start a proving. If indicated and administered
properly they support pregnancy ( which is a natural process).

Pregnancy is a good time for constitutional prescribing and help both
the mother and child. If you start Pulsatilla Q and give it in 10 drop
doses 10 times daily then of course the story might be different...I
have never attempted this so cannot talk from experience

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "navneet bidani"
wrote:
medicines like Pulsatilla, Nat Mur, Secale Cor. etc.....
not give it during pregnancy, is that so? Means let the patient suffer
from the disease for the whole 9 months.

[Lucy De Pieri]

.... then again it is Pulsatilla that will turn a breatched baby few days / hours before birth!
Lucy

navneet bidani wrote:
Dear Group Members,

I was reading in some book that during Pregnancy we should avoid medicines like Pulsatilla, Nat Mur, Secale Cor. etc.....
These medicines can bring back the menstrual flow leading to abortion.
Should we?

If the constitution of a person is say Pulsatilla, than we should not give it during pregnancy, is that so? Means let the patient suffer from the disease for the whole 9 months.

Does anyone has any experiance in favour of this?

Surely, a topic to be discussed.....

Regards,

Dr. Navneet Bidani
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[AH]

on 5/18/06 11:57 PM, navneet bidani at drnavneetbidani@rediffmail.com
wrote:
((( Here is a file of info compiled from this list and other sources which I
hope will be helpful to you and others.

Best,
Andy

0-Rubrics morning sickness and general rx d. pregnancy
1‹Thuja warning
2‹Puls warning
3-- PULS 200 and other measures FOR FETAL MALPRESENTATION
4--. DAVID LITTLE -- SAFETY OF RX D. PREGNANCY ­ AND SULPHUR DURING FIRST
PREGNANCY
5-- Patricia Hatherly ­ comments by specialist in treatment of mothers and
newborn
6‹Castro, Miranda -Arnica d. Pregnancy benefits
7‹Castro, Miranda ‹Caul and other rx benefit pregnancy
8‹F Master- Bach Flower Rx d. pregnancy
9--Syphilinum to normalize next pregnancy
0-
MORNING SICKNESS
Pregnancy [sen] morning sickness/vomiting: acet-ac.102, acon.54, alco.10,
alet.54, amyg-am.102, anac.36, ant-t.102, apis37, apom.102, arg-n.102,
ars.8, asar.54, bar-c.54, bism.37, bov.54, bry.102, calc., carb-ac.54,
card-m.25, cast.54, cer-ox.25, chlf.54, cimic.36, coca, cocc.37, colch.102,
con.8, conv.25, cuc-p.102, cupr-acet.102, cycl.102, ferr.54, ferr-p.51,
gnaph.102, 3Goss.8, graph.8, hydrc., ign.36, ingluv.102, ip.32, 2iris8,
jatr.54, kali-br.8, kali-c.54, kali-m.54, kreos.32, 2lac-ac.8, lac-c.54,
2lac-d.8, lach.54, lil-t.54, lob.8, lob-p.102, luna228, mag-c.102, mag-m.54,
merc.51, merc-i-f.54, nat-m.8, nat-p.54, nux-m.54, 3Nux-v.8, onos.77,
petr.32, phos.54, piloc.102, plat.54, plb.54, podo.8, psor.54, 2puls.8,
sabin.8, senec.8, 2sep.8, sil.54, staph.102, sulph.8, sym-r.32, tab.8,
tarent.54, ther.102, thyr.102, verat.32, vib-p.100

PREGNANCY, DURING
Pregnancy: abel.223, abies-c.11, abrom-aug.97, abrot.8, acer-p., acet-ac.8,
achy-a.97, acon.5, acon-ac.232, adam., aesc.8, aesc-g.187, aeth.8, agar.8,
agn.8, agra., ail.8, ajug-c., alab., alco.10, alet.5, alf., all-c.8,
all-s.8, allox., aloe8, alst-c.223, alum.5, alum-met.54, alum-p.209,
alum-s.36, alum-sil.231, alumn.8, am-br., am-c.5, am-m.5, am-s.209, am-val.,
ambr.5, aml-n.102, amp232, amyg-am.102, amyg-p.223, anac.8, anag.8,
androc.786, ang.31, anh.204, ant-c.5, ant-m.209, ant-t.8, anth.,
anthrch.232, ap-g.1028, apis8, apisin., apoc.5, apom.36, aq-tun., aran.,
arb-m.255, arg.8, arg-n.8, arg-p.209, arg-s.205, arist-cl.119, arn.5, ars.5,
ars-i.54, art-v.8, arum-t.8, asaf.5, asar.5, asc-c.25, asc-i.3020, asim.,
aspar., asta.209, aster.231, atista97, atp232, atro.8, aur.8, aur-br.,
aur-m.8, aur-m-n.77, aur-n.11, aur-s.209, auri-p., bac.102, bact-coli.232,
bamb-a.1184, bapt.8, bar.209, bar-br.209, bar-c.5, bar-i.209,
bar-ox-succ.232, bar-p., bell.5, bell-p.5, benz-ac.8, benz-p., berb.11,
beryl-m.209, bism.8, bism-met.209, bor.8, bor-met.209, both-l., bov.11,
brom.8, brucel-a-b., bry.5, bufo102, buni-o.223, but-ac., c-di-o.205,
cact.8, cadm.209, cadm-m.209, cadm-s.8, caes.209, caesal.97, calad.8,
calc.5, calc-ar.8, calc-br.209, calc-f.223, calc-i., calc-l.209, calc-m.209,
calc-p.5, calc-s.61, calen.231, callun., camph.8, canch., cann-i.8,
cann-s.8, canth.8, caps.5, caras., carb-ac.8, carb-an.8, carb-v.5,
carbn-s.36, carc.223, card-m.8, cartil-s.232, cassi-s.188, cast.8, cast-eq.,
cath-a.264, caul.5, caust.5, cedr.8, cench.231, cer., cer-ox.25, cere-b.,
cham.5, chel.8, chelo., chen-a., chim.15, chin.5, chin-ar.188, chin-s.8,
chion.223, chlam-t., chlf.1028, chlol.8, chlor.38, chlorpr.223, choc.222,
chr-m.209, chr-s.209, cic.5, cich., cimic.8, cimx.54, cina8, cinnam.8,
cinnb.5, cist.8, cit-ac.232, cit-l., clad-p.188, clem.8, clomiph., cob.,
cob-m.209, cob-p.209, coc-c.31, coca1028, cocain.100, cocc.5, coch., cod.8,
coenz-a.232, coff.5, colch.8, colchin., coll.5, coloc.5, con.1, conv.11,
cor-r.102, coriand.205, corn., corn-s., corp-l.100, cortiso., crat., croc.5,
crot-c.214, crot-h.8, croto-t.8, cuc-p.1028, cumn-c., cund.188, cupr.5,
cupr-acet.54, cupr-ar.8, cupr-m.209, cur.8, cycl.8, cypr.54, cyste.232,
cyt-l.223, des-ac.119, desm-g.97, dict., dig.5, dinopr., dios.8, dol.8,
dros.5, dulc.5, echi., elaps1189, embry.232, equis.8, equis-a., ergot.102,
erig.8, euon., euonin.223, eup-a., eup-per.8, eup-pur.8, euph.31, euph-c.25,
euphr., eupi.36, fago.223, fagu., falco-p., ferr.1, ferr-acet.10,
ferr-ar.58, ferr-f.209, ferr-i.8, ferr-l.209, ferr-m.32, ferr-n.209,
ferr-p.8, ferr-s.209, fic-i., fic-mac., fl-ac.8, foll.188, frax.1140,
fum.232, fum-ac., fumar-ac.232, funi-umb.232, galeo-c., gall-ac.231, gels.8,
ger-r.232, germ., gink.188, gins., glon.5, glyc.231, gnaph.102, goni-s.,
goss.8, gran.102, graph.5, grat.31, guai.8, hafn.209, haliae-lc.222, ham.5,
heli., helia.231, hell.5, helod-c.205, helon.8, hep.8, hepar-s.232, hip-ac.,
hipp.36, hippoz., hura, hydr.5, hydr-ac.15, hydrc., hydrog.223, hyos.5,
hyper.8, hyssop., ichth.223, ign.5, ind.102, indg.85, ingluv., iod.8, ip.5,
irid.223, iris8, iris-fa.32, jab.8, jate-p., jatr.8, joan.97, juni.,
just.77, kali-ar.58, kali-bi.8, kali-br.5, kali-c.1, kali-chl.38, kali-f.54,
kali-fcy.8, kali-i.5, kali-m.36, kali-n.15, kali-p.58, kali-s.209,
kali-sal., kalm.8, keto-ac.232, kola.1184, kreos.5, lac-ac.8, lac-c.223,
lac-cpr.188, lac-d.8, lac-del.204, lac-f.233, lac-gl., lac-h.214,
lac-lup.204, lac-mat., lac-v.36, lac-v-c.223, lacer., lach.5, lam.,
lant.209, lap-a.231, lap-be-e., lap-gr-m.194, lap-laz.227, lap-mar-c.194,
lat-h., lath., laur.8, laur-n., lav-v., led.8, lepidg-l., lepro., light-b.,
lil-p., lil-t.8, lim-b-c.204, lir-t., lith-m.209, lob.5, lob-p.102, lsd,
luf-op., luna228, lup.1028, lyc.1, lycps.188, lysim., lyss.5, m-aust.5,
mag.118, mag-br.209, mag-c.1, mag-l.209, mag-m.5, mag-p.22, mamm.100, manc.,
mand.223, mang.5, mang-i.209, mang-m.209, mang-p.232, mangi., med.5,
medul-o.232, medus.221, menis.4066, meny.54, merc.1, merc-c.8, merc-d.102,
merc-i-f.8, merc-i-r.2061, merc-pr-r.15, merc-s.102, methys.188, mez.8,
mill.8, mit.8, morph.36, mosch.5, muc-nas.232, mur-ac.5, murx.8, musa102,
musca-d., muscin., myos-a.232, myric.25, myt-e-p., nad232, naja110, nat-ar.,
nat-bic., nat-br.209, nat-c.8, nat-f.209, nat-h.36, nat-hchls., nat-l.209,
nat-m.5, nat-mar., nat-ox.232, nat-p.54, nat-pyru.232, nat-s.8, nat-taur.,
neon222, nicotin.232, nit-ac.5, nos-rub., 2nux-m.5, nux-v.5, oci-s.97,
oena.8, oeno., ol-suc.15, olnd.8, onos.36, op.5, orig., oro-ac.232, osm.209,
ovar.100, ox-ac.8, oxal.232, oxyg., oxyt.85, ozone227, pall.8, pancreas232,
pap-v.100, par.188, parat., parath.100, parathyr.223, parth.223, passi.,
pep.25, petr.5, ph-ac.5, phel.188, phos.5, phos-amor.22, phys.54, phyt.8,
pic-ac.36, picro.46, piloc.223, pin-l.36, pin-s.1028, pip-m., pitu-gl.100,
pitu-p.102, plac.100, plac-s.232, plan.11, plat.5, plb.5, plb-m.209,
plb-p.209, plumbg.102, plumbg-z., podo.5, polo.209, polyg.188, polyst.214,
polytr., pop.5, posit., pot-t.232, propol.241, pseuts-m., psor.8, ptel.,
2puls.5, puls-n.25, pyrid-hy.232, pyrog.102, querc-cyn., quinh., rad-br.85,
ran-b.8, raph.36, rat.5, ratt-r.215, rham-p., rhen.209, rheum5, rhod.8,
rhodi., rhus-g., rhus-t.1, ribof.232, ric., rob.36, rosm.1088, rubu-i.,
rumx.8, ruta8, sabad.5, sabin.5, sac-alb.102, sac-l.188, sal-ac.188,
salx-f., samb.8, sang.8, sanic.223, sant.100, sarr.8, sars.8, scarl.1140,
scut.25, sec.5, sel.5, senec.8, 3Sep.1, ser-ang.188, sil.1, sin-a.11,
sin-n.8, sinusin.232, slate, sol, sol-n.102, sol-t., sol-t-ae., spect.,
sphing., spig.5, spirae.102, spirae-t., spong.73, stann.1, staph.5,
staphycoc.232, stram.5, strept.156, stront., stront-br.223, stront-c.100,
stront-m.209, stroph.25, stroph-s., stry.223, stry-p.100, succ-ac.232,
sul-ac.8, sulo-ac.223, sulph.1, supren.100, swer-ch.97, sym-r.11, symph.119,
syph.78, t-rex.233, tab.8, tama., tanac.25, tant.209, taosc., tarax.231,
tarent.8, tela, ter.8, tere-l.232, thal.209, thea.102, ther.22,
thiam-hy.232, thio-ac.232, thiosin., thlaspi223, thuj.5, thyr.223, til-c.,
torul., toxo.149, tril.8, trio.4066, trom.54, tub.58, tung.209, tus-fa.,
ubul., uran-n.11, urine223, urine-gr., uro-h.264, urt-u.8, ust.8, uva.54,
uza., valer.5, vanad.209, vario.223, verat.1, verat-v.5, verb.11,
vero-o.232, vesp., vib.5, vib-p.25, viol-o.8, viol-t., vip.188, visc.102,
wies.36, wye., x-ray56, xan.8, zinc.5, zinc-i.209, zinc-m.209, zinc-n.209,
zinc-p.58, zinc-s., zing.8
======================
1. ---Sheilagh Creasy recommends against
THUJ during preganancy.

Karen wrote:
Dear Karen:

Sheilagh Creasy recommended against Thuja during pregnancy, seminar approx
1987. Don't know if this was by experience or theoretical (e.g sensation as
if something alive in abdomen; Thuja's association with growth, being a
principle remedy of the sycotic miasm). Someone in touch with her currently
could confirm that this is still her recommendation, and perhaps determine
by which grounds it had been determined.

Andy

Dear Colleagues

Today I spoke Sheilagh Creasy - the bastion of Classical (Hn) Homoeopathy -
on this issue.
(For those that do not know SC, Her grandmother was homoeopath and she was
brought up with homoeopathy and has been practising for about 50 years.
What she does not know about homoeopathy is not worth writing about! and she
is STRICTLY Hahnemanian)

She said that her views have not changed and are based on a moral issue.

The issue is that when VF is working perfectly, if a foetus that is not
perfect is formed, it is soon rejected.

[In fact a great number of pregnancies terminate naturally within 2 weeks of
conception so the mother does not even suspect that she was pregnant.]

So the VF will do what it needs to do when working properly and not deranged
by disease. So a moral decision needs to be taken by both the patient and
homoeopath that as a result of prescribing Thuja an abortion MAY occur.

[Conversely - if the VF is strengthened by Thuja and there is nothing wrong
with the foetus, then there is no reason to suspect that the foetus will be
aborted.]

SC also gave a case that up on giving thuja, at 8 months some giant moles
were passed.

Regards
Soroush

===========================
2. ---Elham Mohajer recommends against PULS before month 5

[Minutus] Homoeopathy in pregnancy
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 01:02:58 +0530
From: "mohajer"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Hi all
I must have treated at least a thousand pregnant women both constitutionally
and otherwise during pregnancy. I have never seen any bad effects. In fact
the reverse is true. Those who took medicine during pregnancy gave birth to
healthier children.
Just a warning avoid giving Pulsatilla at all costs till the fifth month. I
know many times Puls is indicated in the beginning months for some or the
other acute condition but it is not a safe drug during pregnancy.
best regards

Elham
PS: I don't remember who it was, maybe Clarke or burnette, who used to give
sulph 30 one month then thuja thirty the second month and Merc. 30 the third
month. I have never tried it and I don't recommend it to anyone, but there
are doctors who give this treatment to women who have given birth to weak
children before and they claim it helps a lot

There are warnings in our literature about Sepia but I have found it one of
the best and most frequently indicated remedies in pregnancy and it has
always done good(in fact if I were to chhose three remedies for morning
sickness it would be Sepia, Tabacum and Kreosote).
least six or seven cases where Puls was given for some thing or the other
during pregnancy and it caused an abortion.
best regards
Elham

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Choudhury:
³ŠPulsatilla is a great remedy in pregnancy. It is a much better instrument
in the hands of the homeopathic physician than forceps and other scientific
up-to-date mechanical devices in the possession of the most skillful
accoucheur of the other school. Time without number have we rendered
unnecessary, by the administration of a single dose of Pulsatilla or of any
other indicated remedy, the aid of the obstetrician in a case of difficult
labor. It needs skill indeed to drag out the foetus from the pregnant womb,
but is needs a much rarer intelligence to make an organism gifted with a
self-contained impulse to act in the natural, heaven-gifted, easy way. The
indicated remedy selected with much precision and care, stirs up the inert
organ and brings into play its wonted action. The irregular, deficient,
fitful labor pain grows in intensity and improves in character. To
illustrate our point I will cite a case that Dr. Guy B. Stearns of New York
City, reported in one Transactions of the International Hahnemannian
Association.
"A case in point is that of a woman aged thirty-three who had five
children. Every labor lasted from four to five days, and ended with forceps
delivery. At the beginning of every labor there seemed to be a spasmodic
contraction of the uterus without any progress towards dilatation of th os.
Chloroform inhalations and all other measures failed to relax, until finally
high forceps had to be used. During every pregnancy her confinement was
looked forward to with added dread. Her sixth child was born under
homeopathic care, and the commenced labor as she had done in the others. She
sat on a chair, her teeth chattering, nervous chills running up and down her
back, weeping with constant frantic and ineffectual pains and no sign of
progress of the labor. Two doses of Pulsatilla 12th were given fifteen
minutes apart. Her chattering and chilliness ceased soon after the second
dose. The pains changed their character, becoming effectual, and within two
hours the woman was delivered of a normal healthy child. Her recovery was
without a symptom, although all of her previous ones had been accompanied by
complications."
Medical literature is replete with such instances and they prove beyond
doubt the efficacy of homeopathic remedies in hard and difficult labor.

used with great caution during pregnancy; injudiciously used it may even
induce abortion. It is a remedy that we are called on to use often to
prevent abortion. The flow appears every now and then during pregnancy with
pains, fainting spells and craving for fresh air. I want to lay especial
importance on one general characteristic of Pulsatilla, a characteristic
that proved itself of immense value to me as well as to others. It is the
association of difficult breathing with the diseased condition of parts
other than the lungs. Dr. Ballard of Chicago reports of a case of abortion
during the fifth month, that he prevented by the timely administration of
Pulsatilla on this symptom alone. Sepia failed him, but instead of losing
courage, he took pains to examine his patient once more and noticed that
every pain was accompanied by loss of breath. This was a hint on which to
act. To err is human and we will make many mistakes but we can minimize them
a great deal by retaining hold of cool judgment in trying and crucial
casesŠ²

------
Leavitt‹
³ When molar pregnancy is discovered Pulsatilla is the best remedy to be
administered with reference to expulsion of the degenerate ovum.²

------------
Cowperthwaite (an obstetrician/gynecologist)‹
³ A valuable remedy for the disorders of pregnancy; also during the lying -
in period. Is said to correct positions of the foetus, by altering abnormal
conditions of uterus. Inertia of uterus during labour - pains slow, weak and
ineffectual. Retained placenta. Tones up the uterus and prevents post -
partum hemorrhage.²

---------
Moskowitz (an obstetrician) ­
³ Another superb remedy for nausea in pregnancy, PULSATILLA will usually be
suggested by its
characteristically mutable physical and emotional style and typical
keynote symptoms like intolerance of warm rooms, improvement in the open
air, and sensitivity to overeating, fat or rich foods, bread, milk, or
fruit.
Case 8.5. After a beautiful home birth and an abortion just five months
later, a woman of 28 decided to try again and came in at about nine weeks
with severe nausea, which she had not had in her earlier pregnancies.
Although intensified by the smell of greasy foods or tobacco, it was still
quite spotty,
coming and going for brief periods during the day and night, and could
usually be relieved somewhat by taking a stroll in the fresh air. I
suggested PULSATILLA 200, three doses in 24 hours, along with the 6X tablets
as needed throughout the day, and she was back to normal within a week,
completing the remainder of the pregnancy and the birth without any
difficulty.²

------
Hempel‹
³ An excellent remedy in the case of pregnant women with characteristic
urinary difficultiesŠ²
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3. PULS 200 FOR FETAL MALPRESENTATION

Andre Saine, ND (1988)
Malpresentation-Pulsatilla given during pregnancy (typically one week before
labor is expected to begin) prevents malpresentation. If the child is in
improper orientation, this remedy with cause re-orientation. The literature
shows that this method has an efficacy of 95%. Malpresentation may not
resolve if labor has already begun. Only failures have been when given too
late (in case when given day before labor started) and a case of a child who
turned all night and ended up transversely, (but this baby had a short cord)
(a c-section was performed). This latter example is illustrative that
anomalies in homeopathic treatment are often due to structural anomalies.

Choudhury:
Pulsatilla corrects wrong position of the foetus in the womb. There is great
controversy about this point but nothing is more convincing than facts and
we have facts to back us in the statement that it does do so. I will cite a
case here in support of this, statement from Dr. F. E. Gladwin's report in
the Transactions of the International Hahnemannian Association. "The patient
was thirty-four years old and this was her first child. She had been in
labor about fifteen hours and there was no progress beyond the dilation of
the os; head presented L. O.A.; she was weeping, completely discouraged and
begged for instruments. I gave Pulsatilla, and waited half an hour but still
no progress and still she begged for instruments; so I went home for them.
When I returned in about an hour I found the patient, nurse and
mother-in-law all smiling. I said 'what's the matter, has the baby been
born?' They answered 'no, but he has turned over. ' I asked the patient what
made her think so and she told me that after I had gone she had two
tremendous pains, and it felt as though the baby had turned a somersault.
She added, "You can see for yourself that the baby, which has been lying all
on the one side is now lying on the other side. ' That baby came breech
first."
On 31-l2-2003 "Wiet van Helmond" wrote: "Does anybody have any experience
with pulsatilla and malposition of the foetus? And if so in what potency?"
Re: [H] puls and foetal position
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:26:11 +0500
From: Dr M Ramachandra
To: "Wiet van Helmond" ,


Wiet Van Helmond,

Yes ,Pulsatilla is very useful in correcting the malposition and releasing
the neck from cord.

In case:
of woman during her first child birth-labor pains were there but
not progressing.Gyanecologist trying to induce the labor with
medicines.Patient was getting exhausted .Gyanecologist was planning for
ceasarean section.She was of openion that cord is arround the neck of
feoutus and in breach position delaying the child birth.
I started with Pulsatilla 200 in plus potency 3-4 doses at 1/2hr gap and
Pulsatilla 1M in plus potency 3 doses at 1/2hr gap. Pains increased within
1/2 hr of last dose of pulsatilla 1M and child was born with in another 1hr.
This girl was on Homoeopathy for any other complaints during full term of
pregnency .I start Pulsatilla 200 andPulsatilla 1M giving 7th,8thand 9th
month in advance.Majority have normal delivery .but few who develop
HyperTension go to ceasarean section
With Good Wishes

Ramachandra
Hyderabad,INDIA

Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:58:36 -0700 (MST)
From: SRIDHAR.KOTTI@ORACLE.COM
To: Wiet van Helmond ,
homeopathy@homeolist.com

Hi,
Shouldn't we administer this sometime in the 34th - 36th week of pregnancy.

My wife has a baby in her tummy in the breach position....sometimes she has
a horrible
time due to the feet kicking at the abdomen....

As per acupressure....a 3 sec pressure on the little toe will position the
baby in a
comfortable position....

The above works....my wife gets immediate relief and also from outside I can
feel the
baby turn and settle down in a comfortable position.....well I do not know
if this
turns the baby in a correct position to come out....

Regards,
Sridhar
Re: [H] puls and foetal position
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:52:56 +0530
From: "Dr. Krishnamoorthy"
To: Lyghtforce

REPLY FROM DR. V. KRISHNAMURTHY.

Yes, we have treated and cured several cases. Just three doses of
Pulsatilla-1M every four or eight hours.

Please see the book THE ACCOUCHEUR's EMERGENCY MANUAL by Dr. W. A. Yingling,
M.D. He writes under Pulsatilla: "Abnormal presentations may be
righted if given before the membranes are ruptured or the presenting parts
are firmly engaged (This has been verified by the best prescribers.)
On December 31, 2003, Sridhar.Kotti wrote: "Shouldn't we administer this
sometime in the 34th - 36th week of pregnancy.

My wife has a baby in her tummy in the breach position....sometimes she has
a horrible time due to the feet kicking at the abdomen....

As per acupressure....a 3 sec pressure on the little toe will position the
baby in a comfortable position....

reply from dr. v. krishnamurthy
Three weeks before the date of delivery in the case of first child-birth
(and one week before the date of delivery in the case of subsequent
childbirth) the child in upright position turns upside down, descends down
further and the head is firmly fixed in the pelvis. If this does not
happen, doctors say 'head floating".

Homeo medicines would act only if and when the symptom is there. We cannot
give any remedy IN ADVANCE. Cure is easier and better than prevention, as
far as homeopathy is concerned. To learn all these good things you must go
to a good teacher.

Again, homeopathy is not a backdoor entry to medical practice. Homeopathy
is not to do away with knowledge of anatomy, pathology, differential
diagnosis etc. Otherwise, homeopathy ;would be pushed into disrepute.
If you want to read my other writings please contact me off the list and I
would send you by e-mail.
Dr. V. Krishnamurthy
Professor of Homeopathy, Acupressure and Dr. Bach Flower Remedies of
England.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/GE ... OUS_STONES
ADVANCED HOMEOPATHICPRACTICE@YAHOOGROUPS.COM
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on 10/28/05 10:50 AM, Rosemary C Hyde at rosemarychyde@mindspring.com wrote:

The books say to give Pulsatilla a couple of weeks before the due date to
help a breech baby turn into the correct position. I'm sure someone on the
list has had some actual experience with this situation and has worked on
it homeopathically. What homeopathic advice would you offer for a young
healthy women with a baby now in the breech position, who is due in two and
a half weeks? Many thanks!

Rosemary

-----
Except really very useful Pulsatilla I have good experience with typical
sycotic remedies (Med, Thuj,..), but it depends on the case. Turning is
successful in ca 2/3 women (about 50 cases total from my practice). I have
compared this ratio with my colleague acupuncturist and he has similar
figures - God knows why and when it is better for baby and/or mother not to
turn:-)
Jitka

-------
My friend the midwife who uses homeopathy uses Pulsatilla 30C twice a week
until the baby has turned.
Michele.

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puls 30 3 times a day for 3 days in my experience has always worked every
time, liz Lalor

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Robyn wrote:
"A child has been found in its reverse position (breach position), detected
much before labour where obstetrician opined for caesarian section,
surprisingly Lycopodium calvatum 30 twice a day for a few days (4-5 days)
miraculously corrected the position. This has been repeatedly verified. No
manual attempt to correct the position needs to be advised."

exerpt from Standardisation of Treatment in Labour and Delivery
Presented and published 1995.
Dr. Banerji and Dr. Mukherjee.
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ubject: Re: [H] Breech presentation - experiences ?
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 12:25:45 +1200
From: Julian Winston

Wendy (?) mentioned trying Pulsatilla and it having a partial effect.
I have heard of this twice. In both cases, Pulsatilla 200 was given.
The baby was felt trying to turn, but never did. In both cases, the
baby, when born, had the umbilical around it's neck. Turning over
would have killed it.
Nature knows best! Pulsatilla CAN help, but if it doesn't, there is
certainly a reason.

JW

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PULS 30 or 200 used typically depending on case of course Re: [H]
Breech presentation - experiences ?
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:20:55 -0400
From: "Cheryl Overley"
To:

Arun wrote:
Hello all,
At 28 weeks about 25% of babies are still breech. Your friend has plenty of
company.
You're right in that at 33 weeks only 5% of babies remain breech while 3-4%
remain breech at labor's onset. Whether it's a correction or normal
development along the healthiest path for most pregnancies is the subject of
spirited debate.
Is the mom or baby sick or otherwise functioning below their optimum health?
Does the mother feel she needs a birth attendant? If so is the only one
available one who is ignorant of or hostile to vaginal delivery of breech
babies? It's probably obvious by now but I believe sometimes breech
position is the safest for a particular mother-infant combination. I know
woman who've birth breech babies unassisted (footling breech even!) and with
midwives attending. Unfortunately in the U.S. medical schools discovered by
teaching cesarian section they can streamline the heavy curiculm by cuting
out breech deliveries as well as many other pregnancy and labor management
issues.

experience with it (or other >remedies)?
I have a massage therapist friend who shares a practice with a doctor of
traditional chinese medicine. She told me according to TCM breech position
indicates a weakness along a particular meridian. (Sorry, I can't remember
which {liver, gallbladder, spleen?} but it was a weakness commonly seen in
modern life. Hope that is enough to head you in a helpful direction.) Both
accupuncture and moxibustion relieve the blockages and can turn breech
babies.

Many lay midwives are experienced both exercises and external version to
turn breech babies occiputal. Excerises can be done anytime but external
version is often delayed until 37 weeks to lessen the chance of the baby
repeatedly returning to breech and potentially tangling the cord or looping
it around the neck.

No personal experience using homeopathics to turn a breech baby but my copy
of Sandra Perko's _Homeopathy for teh Modern Pregnant Woman and Her Infant_
mentions
Her differential is as follows:

Pulsatilla:
Pulsatilla is well known for being able to turn a breech baby. Dr. William
Schwart related that obstetricians at Dunham College once witnessed a group
of medical students change a breech presentation to normal delivery in less
than a minute by one dose of Pulsatilla C.M. "In fact," he said, "there are
several cases on record when you have a case of prolonged labor with no
progress in a woman inclined to be fat with a mild fearful disposition who
pleasd with you to open the window, as she is smothering, and you think it
is a case for forceps delivery, just hunt for the forceps while your nurse
gives the patient a dose of Pulsatilla anywhere frrom the 30th to the C.M.
you will lay your forceps aside unless there is malformation."

Pulsatilla is the major remedy fo violent and painful movements of the
fetus. She may complain that her uterus is "too heavy." Pulsatilla most
surely would be called for when the infant is not in the corect position
during the last seven to ten days prio to the due date. This is usually due
to atony of the uterus. The woman is usually weepy and somewhat depressed.

Dr. D.P. Rastogi, director of the Central Council for Research in
Homeopathy, cited a study showing that in the last week of pregnancy,
Pulsatilla given to the mother caused the malpresented baby, in over 50% of
the cases, to turn properly for a correct presentation.

If you know the baby is in the breech position before the onset of labor,
give Puls 30 two to three times a day, for a few days until the baby turns,
or one dose of Pulsatilla 200 or 1M. Some homeopaths believe that the
remedy should not be given if the water has broken or the baby is already in
the birth canal, but a number of midwives disagree with this and contend
that the baby tuning in the birth canal is farr less painful and dangerous
than a malprresented birth or hospital transport with forceps delivery.

Viscum album:
Consider this remedy if Pulsatilla fails to act in turning the baby.

Natrum muriaticum:
This remedy may aid the baby to turn from a breech position if the problem
is due to too little amniotic fluid. The mother will often have very dry
mucus membranes and dry chapped lips. She usually is the emotionally
"closed" woman with a deep-seated fear of rejection.

Hope that helps.

~Cheryl Overley

P.S. This doesn't answer any of your questions BUT anytime you have what
you believe to be a suboptimal fetal position, have the mom keep her lower
pelvis closed until you get a position you like. Opening it up allows the
baby to wedge in low in a position you don't like. Deep squats and sitting
with knees apart and above the hips (as in a recliner or most car seats)
open the lower pelvis. There are kneeler chairs designed for office workers
with back troubles that work well for moms keeping their lower pelvis
closed.

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Re: [H] Breech presentation - experiences ?
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:28:56 -0400
From: "Cheryl Overley"
To:

Cheryl Overley wrote:

I meant to type at 36 weeks only 5% remain breech. (I was off by one button
on the keypad.) Kindly forgive my misinformation.

~Cheryl Overley
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Breech presentation - experiences ?
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:28:57 +0400
From: "Emma"
To: "Arun" , "Homeopathy List"

References:
My baby was 'breech' at 36 weeks and he turned when HE was ready (38th
week). But not before the stupid doctors had me reading ALL the 'literature'
(scaring the absolute Sh1t outta me) on how to deliver a baby breech! It was
'either THAT or a caeser'.

Btw, he came two weeks 'early' --- and arrived about 4 days after he
'turned' and got into the right position.

Since then (1997) I've had 7 friends (yes, seven!) who've all been
'prepared' for a breech delivery -- all of them were past the 34th week --
and ALL of their babies turned on their own, with NO help. No complications
at all.

I wouldn't advise giving a remedy just yet. It's TOO early!!
If she is approaching the 38th week (i.e the 37th week is coming to an end)
and the baby hasn't turned yet, I *might* THEN consider what she possibly
needs.

Normal 'term' for gestation is anywhere between 38-42 weeks. So, as one is
approaching the 38th week, this is when I'd start to raise an eyebrow. But,
not before that.

Best wishes,
Emma

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Subject:
Re: [H] Fetal hydronephrosis
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:46:56 +0100
From: CedrikWedrik
To: Arun
CC: homeopathy@homeolist.com
case take of the parents esp of M during preg

I know of some cases where an insecticide (banned for this reason) has
caused Kidney probs in foetus

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Arun wrote:
Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:49:26 +0100
From: "Wendy Howard"
To: "Homeolist"

3-4% remain breech at labor's onset. Whether it's a correction or normal
of spirited debate.

My first child turned breech and remained that way. Because of where I
livedat the time (75 miles from the nearest hospital that had not the most
enlightened of maternity units), elective caesarian section was the only
option that was offered to me. I was rather keen to avoid that so at 37
weeks I tried Pulsatilla 200C and lay with my body straight at an angle of
about 20-30 degrees to the horizontal, head down, feet up. After about 15
minutes the baby started to turn. She got about half way round then stopped
and went back again, and that's where she stayed so elective c-section it
was. However the experience left me in no doubt about Pulsatilla's
reputation in this respect.

She's now 12 and every bit as contrary as she was then!

Regards
Wendy

-----------------
Hi all,

Burning moxa (artemesia vulgaris) on the acupuncture point bladder 67 is
supposed to bring the baby into the right position.

I have no experience - but also this is not something I just read in some
book or heard someplace. It is standard knowledge in traditional chinese
acupuncture.

Bladder 67 is easy to use - it is just outside the external angle of the
nail on the little toe.

Regards

Luise
------------------
Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:53:26 -0400
From: "C Creel"
To: "homeopathy list"
Dear Arun,

A traditional Chinese treatment for preventing breech birth - burning
herbs over an acupuncture point on the mother's toe a few weeks before
delivery - increases the odds of a normal vertex position of the infant in
time for delivery. The study is published in the November 11, 1998 issue
of The Journal of the American Medical Association.

Practitioners of traditional Chinese medicine use a treatment called
moxibustion -burning small cones of mugwort, an herb, over an acupuncture
point on the outer corner of the mother's small toenail. According to
traditional Chinese medicinal precepts, heat from the burning herb
stimulates the acupoint.

To test the treatment's efficacy a study was done of of 260 Chinese women
who were about to deliver their first babies. The women were in the 33rd
week of pregnancy - a point at which the fetus has usually turned so it is
in a head-down position. Ultrasound scans, however, showed that these
women's fetuses were still in a head-up position.

In the study, 130 of the women had either one or two half-hour moxibustion
treatments every day for a week. If the fetus still had not turned so it was
head-down after 1 week, the mother received a second week of treatment. The
other 130 women received no treatment for breech presentation during those 2
weeks. After the 2-week period, all women in both groups were given the
option of having ECV if their fetus had not moved into the correct position.

Women in both groups were asked to count fetal movements for 1 hour per day
during the first week of the study. Mothers who had moxibustion treatment
reported an average of 48.45 fetal movements, while those who received no
treatment reported an average of 35.35 movements. At the 35th week of
pregnancy, 75.4% of the fetuses whose mothers had moxibustion treatment had
turned and were head-down, compared with 47.7% of those whose mothers had
not had the treatment.

Two half-hour moxibustion treatments per day showed results faster than one
treatment per day, the researchers note. Only one mother in the treatment
group opted for ECV after week 35, compared with 24 in the no-treatment
group. While more than 75% of mothers in the moxibustion treatment group had
normal head-first deliveries, only about 62% of mothers who had not received
moxibustion treatment had head-first deliveries. The moxibustion treatment
appeared to cause no adverse side effects.

The mechanism of action of moxibustion appears to be through increased fetal
movements, which proved significantly stronger in the treated subjects.

Regards,
Catherine

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Re: [H] Breech presentation - experiences ?
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:24:19 +0100
From: "caroline SPEAR"
To: "Arun" , "homeopathy"

Hi Arun
26 weeks and a breech presentation is quite normal, baby is still small
enough to turn somersaults!!

I would certainly wait until 36 - 37 weeks before becoming concerned. What
is useful, according to Jean Sutton, is that women sit with their knees
below their hips, avoiding the bucket seat position. This helps to keep the
pelvis open and so gives the baby space to get into a good position for
birth. Some babies do need to be born by Caesarean, however, with a normal,
spontaneous onset of labour, and a labour that progresses normally (And I do
not mean 1 cm dilatation per hour), no interference, lots of loving support
and encouragement, and the woman adopting a hands and knees position, there
is no reason why the baby should not be born vaginally. See
www.caesarean.org.uk there is a great article on normal breech birth by
Mary Cronk, a very experienced independent Midwife.
I have not yet seen a breech turn with homoeopathy, I have known of them
turn of their own accord and with being turned with external version.
The results of trials on breech delivery from (I Think) Sweden recently,
were all based on breech babies born in hospital, most of whom, if they were
allowed as far as the birth canal (I hate this terminology) were interfered
with by doctors cutting women's perineum's, and using forceps, which is
dangerous. As Michel Odent says, if there is room to get forceps in, there
is room for the baby to come out without surgical appliances. Handling a
breech during it's birth is risky, you risk flexing the head up, squashing
the umbilical cord and , basically, severley injuring, or killing the baby.
This research did not look at the birth statistics of independent midwifes,
who are skilled with breech birth. I was c/sectioned for a breech (stayed
at home for all subsequent babies) and then an acquaintance told me her baby
had turned breech and was booked in for a c/section, so I pointed her in the
direction of our local independent Midwife, and her 7lb+ son was born, balls
first, in her sitting room. Another lady I supported, who had had 2
c/sections for supposedly disproportion, deliberately did not get to
hospital until "too late" went to A& E with gastric upset, and birthed a 9lb
10oz breech. A&E staff were fine, obstetrics were freaked out by the
incidence.
Mother father and baby were all very happy!
Hope this helps!
A breech birth in the presence of an unskilled Midwife or Obstetrician,
probably, is safer delivered abdominally ;-(

Caroline
Home Education... Read Free-Range- Education.
www.free-range-education.co.uk
--------------------------

Yawn.......... I know I'm not treating the ultrasound as no one has reported
that the ultrasound was feeling unwell.

The point, fairly obviously, is that perhaps ultrasound has caused
problems...Perhaps it hasn't, perhaps it's something else. Who knows? But if
that were my baby I would do something about it if there was an option to do
so. The parents of this child can make up their own mind, It's up to them ,
at leastoffer them the choice is all I'm saying.

Antidoting the effects of ultrasound might be something that needs
considering, if so, I ask what remedy is most likely to be homeopathic to
the effects ofultrasound. I am happy with that terminology in that context,
not to be so would be pedantic. The real issue is can prescibing along these
lines help? Experience tells us that yes, it can.

There are several ways to address the problem if ultrasound is suspected of
being in part at least a culprit, one of which is to give potentised
ultrasound
or another is to give a remedy which covers the usual problems it causes,
something that is similar in the same way as certain remedies are first
choice
after dentistry( Hep, aur etc)., surgery ( arn, staph etc.), radiotherapy
(sol,
rad-b etc.), drugging (nux-sul etc), and so forth. I was asking what
remedies might bear a similar relation to ultrasound ( the effects of) as
sol does toradiotherapy. ( the effects of)

That is homeopathy because homeopathy is about similars, you know, similar
suffering and all that, not bloody exactimums (Jeez I can't believe this
stoopid old arguement is still going!) Homeopathy is not exclusivley about
the holy grail simillimum; prescribing according to methodologies other than
a totality often resolves the problem caused, in the same way that arnica is
homeopathic to bruising; someone might be a calc carb through and through,
you prescribe that as they leave they fall and bang their head, so now what
is homeopatic,arnica, or calc carb?
You do not have to have full case with all the proscribed case taking
'essentails' to prescribe. You can make an educated decision as to those
remedies or remedy most likely to improve a condition on the facts
available.

Take as much of a case as possible and prescribe as homeopathically as one
can;e.g. what would the parents constitutional types be likely to be, what
are thedominant miasms, what happened during the pregnancy, inc all the
emotionalstuff, etc. of course one can take a case here! What kind of a
whole symptompicture do you think you need to prescribe?, I can see it all
now
(fanfare)"Interview with a foetus" - a Hammer Homeopathy Film!

Using any or all of the above it is not unreasonable to expect improvement
in
the condition as described.
.......and it is homeopathy

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hu, 26 Jun 2003 15:23:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: JoAnn Jarvis
To:homeopathy

Hi Arun,

I had my first baby born vaginally frank breech, no
forceps, no anything! It almost killed me, and she
almost ended up with brain damage. Pain was
indescribable. How we both got through that I'll
never know.

I wouldn't wish that experience on anyone.

(I didn't know anything about homeopathy back then.)
Definitely an experience to be avoided.

JoAnn

-----------------
--- caroline SPEAR
wrote:

---------------
Subject:
Re: [H] Breech presentation - experiences ?
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:39:43 -0700 (PDT)
From:JoAnn Jarvis
To: homeopathy@homeolist.com

Hi Caroline,
Well, that was over 22 years ago. In the days
Before ultrasound. Believe me, I would have been happy for
ultrasound back then!
If I recall correctly normal first labors last
approx 16 - 22 hours. Mine was approx 3 1/2 hours start to
finish. The baby was too far down in my pelvis to
doa C- section. Couldn't have any pain meds because
it was too dangerous for the baby who was already
showing signs of fetal distress (meconium).
I had the neonatal intensive care unit down in the
delivery room, an anaesthesiologist ready at my side
to render me unconscious, incase they had to break
my pelvis. They were uncertain whether they could
deliver her head - weren't sure if my pelvis was big
enough. Had me into Xray inbetween contractions to
help determine the measurements but it was too close
to call. The pain was ungodly.
2 physicians were there to deliver. 7 nurses....
She was frank breech - her feet were up to her head,
fanny first. It was like she was folded in half.
They delivered her rear end and pulled down her legs and
said hold on, we don't know if the head will fit....
It did... she was born extremely hypoglycemic,
Shaking and blue but otherwise ok. Her rearend was black
And blue and excoriated where her skin was scraping
against my bones. Very traumatic birth. I went
into shock and convulsions. Lost alot of blood. But we
both got through it.
7 lbs., 5 oz. I was told that if she were any bigger
she at best would have been cerebral palsy, at worse
-dead.
Over the next few months it became apparent that her
neck had been badly injured during that birth and
she could not hold her head up straight. Had to go
through lots of painful physical therapy to stretch
those sternocleidomatoid muscles out.
Today she is almost 23 years old. Straight A
Student since day 1. No deficits, thank God - in any way.
Has won many scholarships, attends college and will be
studying abroad in Holland next semester, majoring
in anthropology.
So, it was a good ending.
JoAnn
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that
room for the baby to turn more easily. I can vouch for this as I had to use
it twice myself as living in central Australia I could not give birth at
local
this way. I massaged the babies from outside and encouraged them to turn -
both times took 1 1/2 nights before I could take the bricks out from

------------
I have frequently used pulsatilla in order to turn a breech baby, following
a variety of protocols. It has never worked yet for me! One person's
specific etc.......

bw

Theresa
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4. DAVID LITTLE -- SAFETY OF RX D. PREGNANCY ­ AND SULPHUR DURING FIRST
PREGNANCY
________________________________________________________________________
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com

At 09:42 AM 5/13/2004 -0700, you wrote:

Dear Rosemary et al,

If you benefit the health of the mother - you benefit the health of
the child. In the footnote to aphorism 284 of the 6th Organon (sometimes
disputed because it was written in R. Haehl's handwriting) there is a
discussion about treating pregnant mothers. Haehl's said this material
comes from dictations Hahnemann made to assistants that he faithful
reproduced. I don't see why Haehl, and man with a good reputation, would
come up with this idea himself.

indispensable. This should be done by means of a gentle antipsoric
treatment with sulphur in the new [fifty-millesmial) dynamization described
in this edition (aph 270). This will eradicate the psora in the mother and
in the fruit of her womb. Psora (which is the engendered of most chronic
diseases) has already been imparted to mothers through inheritance and its
is almost always present in them. By treating mothers in this way, their
progeny may be protected against psora in advance. This is so true that the
children of pregnant women who are so treated come into the world far
healthier and more robust - to everyone's amazement. This is another
confirmation of the great truth of my psora theory."

I am not suggesting that every new mother is given sulphur but the
general idea of treating the constitution and miasms of the mother to
protect and improvement the health of the child is an interesting point
that deserves some thought. Over the almost three decades I have done
homoeopathy I have found treating pregnant women a very beneficial and feel
it strengthen both mother and child.

Sincerely, David Little

=====================================================
5. Patricia Hatherly ­ specialist in treatment of mothers and newborn
Re: [Minutus] Homoeopathy in pregnancy
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:22:08 +1000
From: "Patricia Hatherly"
To:

Dear all

Generally I find that constitutional treatment of the pregnant woman is a
straightforward matter and does not impact negatively on the developing
foetus.
have
occasionally prescribed it with no difficulty in the early months.
However, I have vague memories of one of my teachers issuing a similar
warning regarding Bryonia and don't know of its source (anyone out there
heard of it being a "problem"?) Reason I'm asking is that I have one case of
having prescribed it accurately to a pregnant woman for a migraine in the
4th month. Her baby was born with a diaphragmatic hernia! to this day I
wonder if it was the remedy or co-incidence.

Also I can share another unusual instance regarding a mother who sought my
help in the second trimester of her 3rd pregnancy for rhesus
incompatibility. She was a Jehovahs Witness (does not agree with blood
transfusions as part
of her religious practice).

She refused treatment during her second pregnancy and the baby was born
severely jaundiced and was in danger of dying. He was forcibly removed from
her by the government and transfused against her wishes. She did not want a
repeat of this instance and was wondering if homoeopathic treatment during
the pregnancy would prevent a re-occurrence!

On taking her case Sepia was decided upon as being the Simillimum. With the
warning in our literature regarding abortion in the 5th month with Sepia and
the rubric "indifferent to those loved best" I was hesitant to prescribe
lest her vital force "decide" that it would be in her best interests to
abort the foetus.

I had a frank discussion with her and her husband regarding all aspects of
the case (especially as I could give no guarantees and probably the best Rx
for the baby was Chel but the mother wasn't requiring that Rx at the time
and wasn't keen to wait until the birth to have the baby treated
homoeopathically).

They opted not to take a homoeopathic remedy and they had a successful
pregnancy with some allopathic innovative blood treatments that satisified
their religious beliefs.
I wonder to this day as to what might have happened and would appreciate any
thoughts on this one.
It's a good example of not being too prescriptive. There are, I believe,
some instances when we cannot make blanket assertions.

regards
Patricia Hatherly

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6. Miranda Castro on ARNICA in pregnancy
Arnica Rules in Pregnancy

by Miranda Castro, FSHom
I was asked recently whether there were any
circumstances where homeopathy might be
Œcontra-indicated¹ for pregnant women. The question centered on a woman in
her first trimester (3 month¹s pregnant) who had been involved in a car
accident and was in a state of partial shock. She
had suffered some abdominal bruising from banging
into the steering wheel and was bleeding
from the uterus. She was hoping that she wouldn¹t
miscarry, and wondered if whether it was safe
to take Arnica. This is definitely one situation
where a little Arnica could go a long way!
Dick Moskowitz MD, in the introduction to his
book Homeopathic Medicines for Pregnancy and
Childbirth writes impressively: ³I have used
homeopathic remedies since 1974 in more than 800
pregnancies. I have found them to be wonderfully
safe and effective in many situations in which
conventional drugs and surgery are not required.²
The safety of homeopathic medicines in pregnancy
has been confirmed by 200 years of
homeopathic clinical practice around the world,
and although we don¹t know what the unborn
baby of a hurt mother is going through exactly,
we do know that if the mother is in a state of
shock then something of this will almost
certainly affect her child. And therefore ... anything that
can help the mother to heal, to feel better in
herself, must and will be of benefit to the baby.
I am a self confessed Arnica fanatic. I have been
known to wax lyrical about its miraculous
properties to anyone who will listen. And this is
why...Arnica works! On almost anybody. It is as
close to a Œspecific¹ as we can get ... and we
(homeopaths) don¹t have many of those. A specific
medicine is one that we can give for a complaint
with a high degree of certainty that it will help.
Dorothy Shepherd writes in her exquisite little
book The Physician¹s Posy:
³You may have heard it mentioned that there are
no specifics in Homeopathy, a specific being a
drug which, in a doctor¹s mind, as well as in
those of lay people, is associated with a certain
disease. ... There is no rule without an
exception, so we are taught in grammar, and even in
Homeopathy you get exceptions to rules. The best
specific I know is Arnica for injuries, falls and
accidents of all sorts. In the German language it
is called ŒFall Kraut¹ or Œfalling herb¹, to show
its main action.²
For many people Arnica provides incontrovertible
proof that homeopathy works. Because at the
end of the day homeopathy as a healing concept is
fairly fantastic. The idea that anything so small
can have an effect is weird. We have to see it to
believe it. And once your have seen it work you
are hooked, as many of those (of you) reading
these words will agree.
It is somewhat impressive to see that egg on your
child¹s forehead, caused by a nasty fall, to
reduce and disappear altogether, in front of your
very eyes, within minutes ... having given him or
her a single tablet of Arnica (in potency of
course). There is no further pain and no discoloration.
The bruising is healed from the inside. A
mini-miracle.
I remember the time I stepped out to cross a road
early one morning without looking, from behind
a large truck. In England we can cross a road
anywhere, we are not limited to Œofficial crossings¹.
We learn to Œstop, look and listen¹ before
crossing a road and hammer this into our children.
Myself included! This particular morning I
neither stopped, looked nor listened. I just stepped out,
in front of a car traveling at about 30 miles an
hour. The car ran over one of my feet (and its
fender smashed into my leg). I was very shaken
and hurt, but I found to my surprise and great
relief, that I could stand on my leg and move all
the toes of my foot and so I knew that nothing
had been broken. The driver of the car (a
pharmacist from our local hospital!) was shaken as well,
and relieved that I only wanted him to drive me
home. I wanted to get at that bottle of Arnica
ASAP!
I stood in my sitting room and surveyed my state!
I was shaking uncontrollably and crying with
relief. The words ³I could have died² ran through
my mind over and over. Ah-ha! I recognized
my old friend Aconite. I took a single dose and
the shock and trembling melted away immediately.
I turned my attention to my foot. It had swelled
to twice its size in a short half hour and was
incredibly painful. It was starting to go nasty
shades of yellow, purple and black in a small area
that I knew would spread to the whole foot and up
my ankle and leg over the next few hours. My
shin was also painful and swollen. The pain was
intense but more of a deep soreness­and this was
unusual for me. When I get hurt I usually get
sharp or unbearable pains. For example, after dental
treatment or if I sprain an ankle Arnica never
ever works because I do not have the bruised
soreness that guides us to Arnica ... and I am
never stoical! This time it was different ... I heard
myself telling a colleague (on the phone) ³I¹m OK
really, it doesn¹t hurt that much. It could have
been much worse.² Yeah, right!
I took Arnica in a high potency, because of the
severity of the accident and because I wanted
results (I was scheduled to be the best woman
(!maid of honor) at my best friend¹s wedding the
following day). The pain eased up within minutes
and I used it as a guide as to when I should take
my next dose. Initially I took it every 15
minutes or so but was soon able to reduce that to every
hour or two. The swelling reduced gradually until
my foot was back to normal after by that
evening. The discoloration did not spread but
reduced to an area the size of a quarter (and
disappeared altogether within a couple of days)
I was also fortunate in that an osteopathic
friend of mine passed by my house and gave me an
adjustment that helped my body balance from the
jar it had received during the injury.
The next day I walked up the aisle easily­and my
foot fitted in those beautiful shoes I had bought
especially for the event! The word miracle comes
to mind once again. Even I found myself saying
³Well, maybe it wasn¹t as bad as it looked.²
Right! A whole (normal sized) car ran over my foot!

So. Let¹s return to the woman who had an
abdominal injury, with bruising to her abdomen
followed by a passive hemorrhage. While Arnica is
always great for bruising, it isn¹t the only
remedy and there is another one that might have
been better in this situation. Bellis perennis is a
remedy for bruises, especially to the abdomen,
with sore bruised pains (just like Arnica), but the
pains are more severe. It is also helpful for
complaints of the uterus with weakness and bleeding. It is a specific for
bruised soreness after abdominal surgery, and for lumps and bumps that
remain after bruising. I have used it for exactly this type of deep bruised
soreness in pregnancy (where Arnica did not help) and after
childbirth­again, where Arnica did not help. They have difficulty
sleeping, typically after 3 am, and I have
sometimes used this symptom to confirm Bellis perennis
in women who are feeling sore and bruised after
childbirth.
Those needing Bellis perennis tend not to be as
stoical as those needing Arnica. The typical
ŒArnica patient¹ always says they are OK when
they plainly aren¹t OK, and this symptom alone
can guide you to a successful Arnica prescription
... where there is bruising to soft tissues
(muscles) with sore, bruised pains. Get it!!!
To bring this discussion back to keynotes, I have
found Bellis perennis to be almost a specific
remedy for women who experience severe pains in
their groin during the last few months of
pregnancy, pains which come on suddenly while
walking, and which are severe enough to make
walking impossible until they have passed. This
is due to the stretching of the ligaments and
nerves of the uterus and a single dose of Bellis
perennis causes the pains to pass quickly this time
and helps prevent their recurrence.
When a pregnant woman takes a homeopathic remedy
we can assume her unborn baby receives
something of the same remedy­even if it is a
secondary effect. Logically speaking, if a woman is
feeling unwell or is hurt, and the remedy
stimulates her vital force, her inner healer, then this
positive response can only be of benefit to her
baby. Arnica alone is a little wonderful remedy
during pregnancy (for minor injuries, for
discomfort with an active baby who kicks out causing
some soreness); during labor (where it can speed
labor and help the muscles to do their work with
a minimum of physical stress and strain); and
after the birth (with healing strained tissues). But
don¹t forget Arnica¹s close friend Bellis
perennis for when Arnica isn¹t as helpful as expected.
Learn your remedies and use them wisely and they
will become like dear old friends you cannot
imagine how you ever lived without!
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7. Miranda Castro ­ On use of Caulophyllum and
other remedies d. Pregnancy
A Question of Tone: Guidelines for Using
Caulophylum and Other Homeopathic
Remedies in Pregnancy
by Miranda Castro, FSHom
Caulophyllum (or blue cohosh) has long been used
by Native Americans as a birthing herb,
hence two of its common names: squaw root or
papoose root. Caulophyllum's special gift is in
working with women whose tissues have lost their
tone, especially the tissues of the uterus. Its
reputation for establishing effective
contractions in labor is deserved. It works like a
dream ... when it is called for.
Some homeopathic books advise pregnant women to
take Caulophyllum
(in potency) during the last weeks or even
months before delivery
to prepare them for an easy labor. Taken in
pregnancy, Caulophyllum CAN pave the way for a
trouble-free childbirth if it is indicated, but
if it is taken routinely and unnecessarily it can also
cause some difficulties in labor. If taken
repeatedly when not indicated, proving symptoms may
develop.
Caulophyllum can be taken to prepare women for
easier births but is primarily indicated for
sedentary women with poor muscle tone, or for
those who have a history of gynecological
problems or difficult births. Women who are fit,
who have healthy muscle tone, should avoid
them ... or take them only on the instruction of
an experienced herbalist or homeopath.
Caulophyllum is a beautiful homeopathic medicine
for women in
their childbearing years ... for certain
conditions during pregnancy, labor or after birth. In late
pregnancy Caulophyllum is useful for annoying
Braxton Hicks contractions. In long drawn out
labors it is needed for extremely painful,
ineffective contractions which do not "work," in other
words, the cervix does not dilate. The pains
"fly about" the abdomen, from one place to another.
Sometimes the labor slows down and even stops
altogether. After labor the uterus doesn't
contract properly and becomes prolapsed, or the
placenta is not expelled easily. Exhaustion,
trembling, thirst and chilliness accompany the
above complaints. Strangely the chilliness is no
better for being covered.
So what about the use of Caulophyllum at the end
of a pregnancy
to bring on labor? Since a normal pregnancy can
range from 37 to 42 weeks, it is almost
impossible to predict a baby's birthday
accurately. The question of overdue babies is a vexed
one because come the ninth month (by dates)
doctors and midwives get itchy fingers and want
that baby out! In many Western countries the
rise of inductions and Cesareans confirms a
trend towards births that are managed by medical
professionals rather than births where nature
is encouraged to take its course. I am not
talking of the wonderful life-saving work that medics
are able to offer women whose births have become
complicated. I am simply questioning the
wisdom of unnecessary interventions that appear
to be designed for the convenience of doctors
and hospitals.
A colleague was called recently by a pregnant
woman who had passed her due date and was
being threatened with an induced labor. She
asked whether she could take Caulophyllum. The
homeopath hesitated to recommend a homeopathic
remedy since she was healthy and happy in
all other respects. She had tried vigorous
exercise but it hadn't worked. She jumped at the
suggestion to have a spicy meal. She went to a
restaurant nearby whose specialty of the house
(quite coincidentally) was a salad
reputed to bring on labor in women who are ready
to deliver! She ate the salad and four hours
later went into labor. Six hours later a
beautiful baby greeted her spicy parents!
Had the spicy dinner not worked then a few doses
of Caulophyllum might have been called for,
as it can help to start a labor that is late
(according to dates) but ready, i.e., the baby is ready to
come out and the mother's body is
correspondingly ready to deliver. I suggest women take it in
the 30th potency (30C) three times daily for up
to two days, and then repeat it 3-7 days later if
the labor still has not begun. There are other
homeopathic
medicines that may be indicated at this stage in
a pregnancy when labor is delayed, but they
really do need to be determined by a
professional homeopath who has the skill to work out the
correct one.
I have been asked to give some guidelines for
those women wishing to self-prescribe safely
during their pregnancies.
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Only treat yourself for minor complaints that
are recent:
i.e., mild morning sickness or constipation, a
cold or flu,
cramps, tiredness, heartburn or insomnia and so
on. Chronic
complaints (those that are recurring and/or
deep-seated) should
always be treated by a professional homeopath.
Use low potencies (6X, 6C, 12X and 12C)
as these are nice and gentle and therefore safe
for you and your baby.
Take the remedy for a short period of time and
monitor the results carefully. The right
remedy will work fairly quickly in
an acute situation:
6X--take three to four times a day for up to a
week;
6C and 12X--take two to three times daily for up
to five days;
12C--take once or twice daily for up to three
days.
Keep good notes. This is an important habit to
develop with homeopathy and self
prescribing. You will learn about yourself, your
unique patterns of illness as well as which
homeopathic medicines are helpful for you. It
can be frustrating to be faced with a similar flu to
the one you had two years ago and, for the life
of you, you cannot remember which remedy you
took, and it worked like a dream ...! You will
need to record the name of the remedy and your
reasons for choosing it, the potency as well as
how long you took it ... and don't forget to make
a note of how (and if!) it works.
Monitor the effects of your remedy carefully and
if it has definitely helped, you can
repeat it if your symptoms return, but
only if it helps!
If your symptoms keep returning then the
homeopathic medicine is only working
superficially and you will need to seek the
advice of a professional homeopath.
Always check in with your health care provider
to make sure your symptoms are not
serious, especially if they are persistent, as
some
seemingly innocuous symptoms can be indications
of a more serious situation developing. For
example, itching in late pregnancy can be a sign
of a more serious liver disorder (obstetric
cholestasis) which can lead to premature labor,
stillbirth and an increased risk of hemorrhage
after delivery.
My point is this, we need to question
unnecessary medications or procedures in pregnancy and
childbirth, whether they are allopathic, herbal
or homeopathic. This is a perfect time to use
common sense and "kitchen cupboard/closet"
solutions that are known to be gentle and
effective, rather than take anything that could
have side effects. Caulophyllum can pave the way
for a trouble-free childbirth if it is
indicated, but if taken routinely, then it can cause an
unpleasantly difficult labor. This is unusual
but not impossible. If a homeopathic remedy is
taken repeatedly when it is not needed, then
proving symptoms may develop ... the symptoms
that the homeopathic medicine is capable of
curing ... in a person who is experiencing them.
(For example, it is not unusual for small babies
who are routinely given chamomile tea at
bedtime to become irritable and sleepless.)

Because homeopathic medicines are non-toxic,
they are safe, especially in pregnancy, but it's
sensible not to take something for every little
complaint. Ask someone who knows--a mother or
midwife--to come up with ideas before turning to
medical alternatives. It makes sense to avoid
unnecessary medications at any time in one's
life, not just during pregnancy. If you use
homeopathic medicines indiscriminately and with
scant attention to the rules, you may end up
confused and disillusioned. Use them wisely and
sensibly, and you will make a lasting
relationship with a wonderful source of healing.

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8. BACH REMEDIES D. PREGNANCY
BACH FLOWER REMEDIES IN PREGNANCY, BABIES & CHILDREN
PREGNANCY:
The remedies can be of great help to pregnant women in ovrcoming their
emotionla suffering & apprehension, in both pre and post-natal periods.
Though the Remedies are sfe, pregnanat wommen should consult their physician
before taking any therapeutic agent.
Rescue Remedy
Can be considered as a remedy in pregnancy.
Walnut
Can be considered as a basic remedy in pregnancy.
Walnut
Gives protection against the adverse effects of oversensitivity to
certain ideas, atmosphere and influences.
Rescue remedy
A composite of Impatiens, Star of Bethlehem, Cherry Plum, rock rose,
and clematis, helps to combat stress. It helps to restore confidence. It
does notntake the place of medical attention - it merely relieves the
sufferer's fear and helps to restore calmness.
In addition remedies can be added accordingly where necessary - basing
the choice on the predominent fear, apprehension, brave front, resignation,
etc. which is apparent.
The treatment can be continued during the delivery and essentially
afterwards in the postnatal period. the mother will thus prevent the
influence of her own negative thoughts and feelings from affecting the
child. Thus the baby's natural equilibrium will be maintained.
External application of the Rescue Remedy might generally prove
beneficial to mother and child. in an emergency, the Rescue Remedy liquid
can be applied to the child's wrists, temples and the fontanelles. (It can
be slightly diluted in case the child's skin is sensitive to the brandy
preservative in the liquid).
When the mother is still feeding the baby, she may take the remedies fro
herself or for her child, but in taking a remedy for her child's benefit,
the effect will not be impaired 9 through her milk) until about 2 feeds her.

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9. SYPHILINUM to prevent bad next pregnancy ­
Wheeler ---
Naturally the generative organs offer a wide field for the remedy. Nodules,
ulcerations, testicular or ovarian or uterine inflammation have all been
helped by it. Menses are often excessive and foul leucorrhoea is common.
Recurrent miscarriages always arouse a suspicion of syphilis. Whether or no
this can be proven, lueticum is very likely to be the remedy to ensure that
the next pregnancy will proceed normally.

[navneet bidani]

Thanks a lot Andy for providing such a valuable information.
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