Sycosis & Common Gonorrhea

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Ardavan Shahrdar
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Sycosis & Common Gonorrhea

Post by Ardavan Shahrdar »

Dear colleagues,
There is an important point about 'Sycosis' as termed by Hahnemann. Homeopaths, by mistake, think that Sycosis is equivalent to Neisserian gonorrhea (common gonorrhea). This is a big mistake. Sycosis as defined by Hahnemann is equivalent to figwarts disease which is now known as condyloma acuminatum (genital warts), the disease caused by Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) [Syco = fig].
The reason of this big mistake in the history of homeopathy is including a kind of gonorrhea in the picture of Sycosis by Hahnemann. Hahnemann in the section of Sycosis in his 'Chronic Diseases' has written that figwarts disease may be accompanied by a kind of gonorrhea (not always) which is different from common gonorrhea (Read the first page of the section and also the footnote). He mentions that the common gonorrhea (what we now know as Neisserian gonorrhea) does not penetrate to the system as a chronic miasm. And there is a difference between gonorrhea associated with Sycosis and 'common gonorrhea'. (Gonorrhea in the old texts is a general discription and just mean the flow of pus in genital organs. Gono = ginital organ, rrhea = flow).
In the footnote, Hahnemann clearly mentions that 'Usually in gonorrhea of this kind (sycotic gonorrhea), the discharge is from the beginning thickish, like pus; micturition is less difficult, but the body of the penis swollen, somewhat hard; the penis is also in some cases covered on the back with glandular tubercles and very painful to touch'.
He believed that common gonorrhea (now known as Neisserian gonorrhea) does not penetrate the whole organism and just causes local irritation.
Hahnemann was the first to use the term 'Sycosis'. Before Hahnemann, French doctors believed that what Hahnemann has stated about Sycotic gonorrhea is one of the manifestations of Syphilis and called it 'syphilitic gonorrhea'. Jahr, like French doctors, didn't agree with Hahnemann, too. (Read Jahr's book 'Venereal Diseases and their Homeopathic Treatment).
Now we clearly know that the figwart part of Sycosis is actually Condyloma acuminatum. HPV, the virus related to condyloma acuminatum, does not cause urethritis and gonorrhea in common terminology. The type of gonorrhea that Hahnemann linked to Sycosis is actually the urethritis caused by Herpes Simplex Virus type 2 (HSV-2) which can occur as co-infection with HPV. That's why Hahnemann states that figwarts is not always associated with gonorrhea.
It is intersting to know that if you repertorise the primary infection of HPV, the remedy is Thuja and if you repertorise the primary infection of genital herpes cause by HSV-2, the remedy is Nit-ac. Hahnemann mentions that to cure Sycosis, you need to alternate Nit-ac with Thuja in some of the cases. These cases were actually suffering from two miasms which Hahnemann couldn't differentiate. So we need to edit the concept of Sycosis and split it to two distinct miasms; the miasm related to Condyloma acuminatum (HPV) and the miasm related to genital herpes (HSV-2). At that time, physicians and homeopaths were not able to differentiate between co-infections in venereal diseases. Same happened in Hunter's definition of Syphilis which was not a pure picture of Syphilis as we now know.
Unfortunately, misunderstanding the word 'gonorrhea' in old terminology, has led to big mistakes in homeopathy.
We now know that Neisserian gonorrhea can also cause chronic complications as we see in gonoccocal arthritis (Hahnemann believed that in these patients, it is not the common gonorrhea but Psora which is responsible for the chronic affections - read the second footnote of the Sycosis section.). The chronic affections following infection with Neisserian gonorrhea (either caused by its miasm or as believed to be caused by so called Psora) has nothing to do with Sycosis as termed by Hahnemann.
If one wants to use the term 'Sycosis' with a new definition, that's ok but it is better not to use a defined term and, instead, use a new term. Using a single term for different meanings has causes great mistakes in keyterms of homeopathy!
Regards,
Ardavan Shahrdar

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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Sycosis & Common Gonorrhea

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Ardavan,
Thank you for this very interesting explanation! Will Taylor has also
talked about the fact that "fig wart disease" which Hahnemann equates
with sycosis, is not related to what we today call gohorrhea, the
disease from which Medorrhinum has been made (would that be Neisserian
gonorrhea? If so, it does certainly seem to cause more than a local
irritation...), and says that Med. is actually more tubercular than
sycotic. Which I found interesting in light of the difficulty I have
sometimes (*sometimes!*) had in deciding between Medorrhinum and
Tuberculinum.

Yet there does seem to be a close link between Med and Thuja (with
thuja not uncommonly being needed after Med has done its work)--does
your experience support that? Or would that be just a reflection of a
patient base in which both tubercular and sycotic miasms have been at
work...
Thank you, much food for thought!
Shannon


Kathryn Ellen Madono
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Post by Kathryn Ellen Madono »

Dear Ardavan,

I'm confused. Is the problem with associating the huge scope of Gonorrhea diseases with another huge category, sycotic miasm.The Neisserian gonorrhea is not at all sycotic. It is said not to penetrate the whole organism but isn't that the common allopathic misperception? Anyway, the term sycotic is not useful because yet another confusion? Figwart disease (HPV) is sycotic, but is associated with herpes simplex which is often concommittant it??. In addition, there is a syphilic gonorrhea type that we usually associate with sycotic remedies?

Blessings,
Ellen


Caro
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Post by Caro »

Thank you so much for taking the time to write that up, Ardavan!
That was very interesting and important information.
Following in Shannon's footsteps, I have a question: If Med is prepared from
Neisserian gonorrhea, does that have absolutely nothing to do with it being
a sycotic remedy?
Thanks again!
best wishes,
Caro.
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

Dear Ardavan

You are indeed correct about the errors in this regard. Nader corrected me a
couple of years ago.

Importantly, HPV is also linked with cervical cancer and the allopaths have
developed a vaccine for it.

Rgds
Soroush

You can also view the article of 'Sycosis & Gonorrhea' in Minutus Library.

http://www.minutus.org/library/article_read.asp?id=167


Ardavan Shahrdar
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Post by Ardavan Shahrdar »

Dear Shannon and Caro,
Choosing Medorrhinum as a main antisycotic remedy was a big mistake. First, this selection was based on the false belief that Sycosis is equivalent to Neisserian gonorrhea (Common gonorrhea). Second, the selection of the remedy was based on 'nosode therapy'. Matching the remedy on the basis of 'nosode therapy' weakens the basic principle of homeopathy 'Similia Similibus Curentur'. We can not match a remedy without knowing the proving picture of the remedy. Choosing remedies on the basis of nosodes, isopathy, doctrine of signatures,.... may sometimes work because of a chancy similar prescription but not necessarily.
To find the suitable remedy for a miasm a careful analysis with a clear logic should be done to find the clear picture of the miasm. If any remedy matches the picture, it is ok! In analysis of HPV miasm without considering its more than 80 subtypes, the main remedies are Thuja, Nit-ac, Lyc, Calc, Nat-s, Staph, Sabina and Sarsaparilla. Medorrhinum is not a good simillimum for Sycosis, the figwarts disease!
Regards,
Ardavan

Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
Hi Ardavan,
Thank you for this very interesting explanation! Will Taylor has also
talked about the fact that "fig wart disease" which Hahnemann equates
with sycosis, is not related to what we today call gohorrhea, the
disease from which Medorrhinum has been made (would that be Neisserian
gonorrhea? If so, it does certainly seem to cause more than a local
irritation...), and says that Med. is actually more tubercular than
sycotic. Which I found interesting in light of the difficulty I have
sometimes (*sometimes!*) had in deciding between Medorrhinum and
Tuberculinum.

Yet there does seem to be a close link between Med and Thuja (with
thuja not uncommonly being needed after Med has done its work)--does
your experience support that? Or would that be just a reflection of a
patient base in which both tubercular and sycotic miasms have been at
work...
Thank you, much food for thought!
Shannon
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Ardavan Shahrdar
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Re: Sycosis & Common Gonorrhea

Post by Ardavan Shahrdar »

Dear Soroush,
Regarding cervical cancer you are right but not all subtypes of HPV are linked to cervical cancer. The related subtypes are HPV 16, 18, 31, 45, 51, 52, 53. HPV has about 80 subtypes!!
Regards,
Ardavan

Finrod wrote:
Dear Ardavan

You are indeed correct about the errors in this regard. Nader corrected me a
couple of years ago.

Importantly, HPV is also linked with cervical cancer and the allopaths have
developed a vaccine for it.

Rgds
Soroush

You can also view the article of 'Sycosis & Gonorrhea' in Minutus Library.

http://www.minutus.org/library/article_read.asp?id=167


Ardavan Shahrdar
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Re: Sycosis & Common Gonorrhea

Post by Ardavan Shahrdar »

Dear Ellen,
The problem is that, by mistake, Sycosis is usually considered equivallent to common gonorrhea (Neisserian gonorrhea). This causes great problems in integration of Hahnemann's sycosis and remedies related to chronic affections of common gonorrhea. Common gonorrhea can also cause chronic problems; the famous affection ibeing its related arthropathy.
The false statement that common gonorrhea can not cause chronic affections is not from allopaths, it is mentioned by Hahnemann. Read the section of Sycosis in 'Theoretical' part of Hahnemann's 'Chronic Diseases'. Hahnemann believed that in conditions that a chronic pattern follows common gonorrhea, the chronic dynamism is not related to common gonorrhea and it is actually a complication of Psora as defined by him.
What Hahnemann calls Sycosis is actually a co-infection and not absolutely HPV.
Now we do not know anything as 'syphilitic gonorrhea'. This was a term used in 18th and 19th century. At that time, different venereal infections were considered, by mistake, as parts of Syphilis. Syphilis-associated gonorrhea may be Neisserian gonorrhea, chlamydial trachomatis infection, HSV-2 infection,....
Warm regards,
Ardavan
Kathryn Ellen Madono wrote:
Dear Ardavan,

I'm confused. Is the problem with associating the huge scope of Gonorrhea diseases with another huge category, sycotic miasm.The Neisserian gonorrhea is not at all sycotic. It is said not to penetrate the whole organism but isn't that the common allopathic misperception? Anyway, the term sycotic is not useful because yet another confusion? Figwart disease (HPV) is sycotic, but is associated with herpes simplex which is often concommittant it??. In addition, there is a syphilic gonorrhea type that we usually associate with sycotic remedies?

Blessings,
Ellen


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Post by Marco Franzreb »

Hi there
Do not forget Aur mur nat. I have found it very useful in the treatment of HPV patients.
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Dale Moss
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Post by Dale Moss »

This has been an interesting discussion, Ardavan. Some years ago I did a
booming business in treating genital warts among the local college kids.
The major remedies were Thuja and Lycopodium. Medorrhinum never came up --
symptom pictures just didn't match up. Now I see why they didn't!

Peace,
Cinnabar


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