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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Mega Multiple remedies

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Okay, then I should have explained that first! :-)

This example will be for C (centesimal) potency.
- You begin with one "part" (some amount) of the substance you are
"potentizing".
- Then you add to it 99 "parts" (in other words, 99 times as much) of
lactose, and then
- triturate (grind) them together (I forget for how long). Or if
you're making a "seat-of-the-pants" remedy, you can use one part
substance to (more or less) 99 parts water in a jar or other closed
container, and succuss (whack, or shake) it (and instructions for how
many times are variable--sorry for the confusion, but that part ain't
my fault! (smile) )

At that point you have a remedy of the lowest potency, 1c.

Each subsequent step in potency (2c, 3c, etc.) is gained thru the same
process--
- take one "part" of the potentized mixture,
- add 99 parts lactose (or water and/or alcohol), and
- succuss.

Commonly used potencies range from 6c (you've gone thru the above
process just six times) up thru 10M (gone thru that process (gag)
10,000 times--not done by hand!! And in fact those potencies, for
obvious practical reasons, are made by a slightly different process
that I won't try to explain...)

The "potency scales" in common use are:
Centesimal (dilution ratio 1:99, abbreviated c), Decimal (dilution
ratio 1:9, abbreviated x) and LM (dilution ratio and process more
complex, but something approximating 1:50,000, I think? abbreviated
LM).

I hope that helps... But there are various books that explain this
stuff (and more!) more completely than I can do here, and I think you
would find them very interesting!
Cheers,
Shannon
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Mega Multiple remedies

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hm, people do practice in different ways, and I hate to get into
second-guessing without even knowing anything of the circumstances,
but... Usually one would want to evaluate the response to each dose,
rather than simply giving instructions to take six closely-spaced, high
potency doses... But some people practice in ways that I am not
familiar with, and for a severe acute an instruction such as this might
make sense??? Tho if I were prescribing for something serious enough
to need that sort of dosing, I would be keeping very close track of
what was happening anyway, so I guess I would say I really don't know.
What can you tell us?
Shannon
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myirishenergy
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Re: Mega Multiple remedies

Post by myirishenergy »

Thank You very much Shannon for taking the time to explain that.
I have studied that in the past - like 10 years ago and
unfortunately have forgotten most of it.
I believe the best way to prescribe a remedy to a patient is to give
the mimimal dose considering their sensitivity.
I was raised in the teachings of Kent and have soon learned I like
much better to use the mimimal dose, LM's, Water Potencies, wait and
watch method.
It requires better and closer case taking but well worth it.
I just couldn't understand how repeating doses within a few hours
would be beneficial since it was NOT acute. I'm thinking ..Am I
missing something!! :o)
Both these cases are for Chronic Disease.
Thanks again dear - you were much help to me.
Emily
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homeofan@yahoo.ca .
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Re: Mega Multiple remedies

Post by homeofan@yahoo.ca . »

Sorry for puting my nose into but I see almost all Homeopaths repeat remedies frequently.
Regards
Homeofan

Finrod wrote:
Dear Shannon

All the Masters INSTRUCT that the action of any prescription to be evaluated before the next dose is given.

You say that the repeated systems (night day etc / 'split dose' ) is accepted by some classical homs.

Firstly who are these homs and also can pls advise what is the approved/accepted evaluation technique that they use to allow the second part of the split dose.

Rgds
Soroush


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Mega Multiple remedies

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Homeofan,
I wonder from where you drew this conclusion? My own observation is
exactly opposite to that--that "almost all homeopaths" use single
doses, repeated only *infrequently*. I think it must depend quite a
lot on where on practices, and which method(s) is/are common there.
LMs and low potencies tend to be repeated more frequently than high
potencies, tho.
Shannon


VR VR
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Re: Mega Multiple remedies

Post by VR VR »

I also heard of a method where a mother was told to moisten her finger, put it in the bottle, and give however many pills stuck to it as a dose to her baby. not sure I read that one in the Organon...
Vera

Emily O'Keefe wrote:
I was taught ONE pellet does Not have the same potency as many pellets.
Each pellet is multiplied.
So what this is saying is 1 30C pellet or 10 30C pellets taken at the same time is the same potency?
I really would love to know more about this because I did not learn this way.
What's the reason someone would do this?
Thanks for replying, Emily

Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
Hi Emily,
Filling the cap sounds like a throwback to the "size of dose doesn't
matter" belief (a mistake); usually it won't do any harm (except waste
some pills and perhaps increase chance of aggravation), but isn't
necessary. One (or if the person is relatively insensitive, perhaps
several) is sufficient; personally I often use 5-10 because I like it
better--don't lynch me, please! :-) And have had no trouble with
that.)
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Mega Multiple remedies

Post by Shannon Nelson »

I used to dose mine by putting a single pellet into their bottle, and
letting them drink however much they wanted. I did this with both
acute remedies and chronic remedies, and it always worked very well.
Giving multiple pills in the way you describe, Vera, would do no harm
in most cases, but would certainly be more than is needed!

(Emily, have you made sense of the difference between "potency" and
"size-of-dose"? One pellet versus however many is indeed the same
"potency" (specialized meaning of the word in homeopathy), even tho the
larger dose may be called "stronger" in certain ways.)
Best,
Shannon


VR VR
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Re: Mega Multiple remedies

Post by VR VR »

I disagree with you about the multiple pills doing no harm - this poor baby seems to have gone through countless unnecessary aggravations, which weakens the organism. They are still within homeopathy, but from the sound of it the treatment could be much more effective if the dosing made more sense. The method you describe that you used to do with your kids sounds much more gentle and appropriate.
Vera

Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
I used to dose mine by putting a single pellet into their bottle, and
letting them drink however much they wanted. I did this with both
acute remedies and chronic remedies, and it always worked very well.
Giving multiple pills in the way you describe, Vera, would do no harm
in most cases, but would certainly be more than is needed!

(Emily, have you made sense of the difference between "potency" and
"size-of-dose"? One pellet versus however many is indeed the same
"potency" (specialized meaning of the word in homeopathy), even tho the
larger dose may be called "stronger" in certain ways.)
Best,
Shannon
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Mega Multiple remedies

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Vera,
My reason for saying that in most cases it wouldn't harm, is that it's
been a common way of dosing, which I used to use with mine, until I got
tired of having them cry for more "candy" after they'd had their few
pills! (I gave it from the cap, having been taught that one shouldn't
touch the remedy; also a disputed point.) That's actually the only
reason I switched to just adding a pellet to their cup or bottle. At
this point I quite agree with you that it seems more appropriate, but
at the time I had been taught that it didn't matter, and in fact a
*few* pills (I used 10-15) never caused my kids to aggravate; OTOH an
entire "single dose" vial (a hundred pills or so?) did indeed.

But for someone who's already gone thru aggravations (sorry, I don't
think I read the original post of this thread), then *certainly* the
smaller dose seems more appropriate, I agree!
Shannon
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Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.
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Re: Mega Multiple remedies

Post by Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D. »

Hi, Vera,

I was taught at homeopathic college that you could take a whole bottle of
pellets and it would be the same as taking one. I think this was based on
Kent. However, I've since learned from experience and from reading David
Little's careful work, that it does indeed make a difference how many
pellets you give, and that one pellet generally suffices for a dose. So
what you were taught appears to have been more accurate than what I was
originally taught :-))

Rosemary


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