Cystic Fibrosis & immunosuppression + 'blood' rubric

[d_barbara_hamilton]

Hello colleagues,

I'd be grateful for some feedback on this - I was approached at an Open Day by a lady
who has a 38 y.o. son who has cystic fibrosis and (I think, hard to tell with the hub-
bub of noise) that he had had a lung transplant and was on immunosuppressant
drugs, but he obviously went down with infections on a regular basis. She wondered
if homeopathy could help. I'm not up to par at the moment, so I said I would get
back to her afer asking more experienced members their thoughts on the wisdom of
trying to raise his immune system, when it is being suppressed (deliberately)
allopathically.

The second question is for myself. Does anyone have any suggestions/ideas on how
to find a rubric that isn't "haemorrhage" (rectal), but is nearer passing blood (small
dark clots, streaks) when at stool, concomitant with slender stools and continuing
ache after evacuation(s) ?

Any input welcome.

Many thanks, Barbara

[DCR]

Barbara,
Just took a case of individual diagnosed with colitis - had number of rubrics that may be appropriate. Please send me your email.
Donna
(rona@consultant.com)

[Joy Lucas]

Dear Barbara, best to talk to the son as he would be the person who was
deciding what treatment to have and then you will know if he would be
compliant with a whole case being taken with a view to more positive
healing using homeopathy - it is hard to say how far homeopathy could
go without some form of united goals - even palliation or the use of
organ supports will need a degree of determination - then put him in
touch with a homeopath who can manage such a case.

rubrics for your second question

stool, bloody + sub rubrics
stool thin + sub rubrics
if the pain is in the rectum then obviously use the pain rubrics + type
of pain + after stool
if the pain is elsewhere then use that location
consider the possibility of haemorrhoids

Best wishes, Joy
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[d_barbara_hamilton]

Dear Joy,

Thanks for your thoughts - much appreciated. I think I would prefer to refer him to
someone with either direct experience or who is willing to take on what would be
challenging treatment. Perhaps someone on this list? If so, please contact me
privately (which can be done by going to Yahoo Groups, and Minitus, and clicking on
my name, rather than the list's).

Anyone else? I would still like to hear thoughts/opinions, as it is an interesting topic.

Regarding the rubrics - thanks, but I've used the ones you mention, but don't find
them specific enough; perhaps best I look at the wider picture maybe...

Kind regards, Barbara
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[Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.]

That's a difficult situation with the lung transplant and consequent
immuno-suppression. Since I've not had any experience with that particular
situation, I'll look forward to learning from anyone who has what the
potential risks and benefits might be from acute homeopathic treatment for
infections.

For your bleeding at stool question, these rubrics seem to cover the
situation you described.

RECTUM - FISSURE
RECTUM - PAIN - stool - after
STOOL - LONG, narrow
STOOL - BLOODY - streaks, in

Based on the rubrics, remedies to consider include Merc, Nux-v, Phos,
Sul-ac, Sulph. I'd add Nit-ac to that list, if there's also sticking pain
that precedes the bleeding, as the fissure opens. Mur-ac is another
possibility. The long-continued pain after stool, as well as the problem
with rectal fissures makes me wonder right away about Nit-ac.

Rosemary

[d_barbara_hamilton]

Dear Rosemary,

I think the stakes are high and without prior experience - or at least some guidance -
I wouldn't be sure of how to 'read' any benefits anyway, if they occur. Would, after all,
any tx not be cancelled out by the immuno-suppressants, as and when they are
taken? Would they have to be 'matched' by a drainage or organ support remedy? I
think this is one where both confidence and experience should be matched when
prescribing, and I too would welcome hearing the potential risks and benefits.

Thank you with regard to the rubrics. I've used all but one: fissure. Without a
diagnosis, I felt it was too specific, and there is no actual pain 'on passing'. The
remedies you mention are worth looking into more deeply, as Nux and Phos always
seem to help, but will explore Nit.ac.

Much appreciated. Best wishes, Barbara
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wrote:

[APEX PRECITECH]

Dear Barbara,
IMO the past history should be thoroughly known before you go on to proceed
even for a local ailment.

Why did the boy have his lungs removed? And when did that start ?

It seems to me that it is a progression of disease from lung (first level of
the so called endodermal layer to GIT- the second level of the endoderm
according to Praful Vijaykar)

A palliative will be needed only when the patient is really weak and cannot
stand externalisation of suppressed symptoms. If the boy has had bleeding
from the lungs before the operation, Haemorragic tendency is a top general
for him. (the case is tubercular, - bleeding per rectum is tubercular- SK
Bannerjee). More than a hundred remedies present themselves. But bleeding
per rectum may reduce them with carb v, phos, am c, merc, sep and sulph
leading the list.

Slender stools may point to caust,phos,mur ac, sep ,sulph etc

Well, the potency should not be too low or high as in the tubercular cases.
And the nosode will be required sooner or later to remove the tendency for
colds to carry the case forward faster. As I have seen and learnt , cases
of such tubercular background take much of our time and energy and require
thorough carefulness.

Best
venkat

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:59:19 -0000
From: "d_barbara_hamilton"
Subject: Cystic Fibrosis & immunosuppression + 'blood' rubric

Hello colleagues,

I'd be grateful for some feedback on this - I was approached at an Open Day
by a lady
who has a 38 y.o. son who has cystic fibrosis and (I think, hard to tell
with the hub-
bub of noise) that he had had a lung transplant and was on immunosuppressant
drugs, but he obviously went down with infections on a regular basis. She
wondered
if homeopathy could help. I'm not up to par at the moment, so I said I
would get
back to her afer asking more experienced members their thoughts on the
wisdom of
trying to raise his immune system, when it is being suppressed
(deliberately)
allopathically.

The second question is for myself. Does anyone have any suggestions/ideas
on how
to find a rubric that isn't "haemorrhage" (rectal), but is nearer passing
blood (small
dark clots, streaks) when at stool, concomitant with slender stools and
continuing
ache after evacuation(s) ?

Any input welcome.

Many thanks, Barbara

[d_barbara_hamilton]

Hi Venkat,

Thanks for your considered thoughts, but they were two separate issues (yes, I should
have put them under different headings). I think I would refer you to my reply to
Margaret (Forumgal), as I doubt there is anyone in this area that has sufficient
experience to take up his case - but you never know !

Just in answer to your question below: he had his heart and lung transplant 13 years
ago, and has been on immunosuppressants ever since. CF was diagnosed when he
was a baby (as it usually is).

Thanks anyway.

Best wishes, Barbara

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