Kidney stones

[Dale Moss]

Last week, I gave Lyc. 200c to a middle-aged man, very anxious about his health, who has a 6 mm kidney stone to pass. This stone is in the right kidney; a previous (and much smaller stone) from the left kidney was passed last fall. No information on the composition of either stone.

Drs. tried to remove the present stone but couldn't, apparently because of a stricture in the patient's urethra. So he now has a stent that is supposed to remain in place for 6 weeks (ouch!).

I'm curious as to what we might expect from this latest stone. In the best of all possible homeopathic worlds, I assume it will dissolve gradually so it can pass relatively painlessly. But what kind of timeline is involved in this process?

Peace,
Cinnabar

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[Joy Lucas]

You'd want this to resolve quickly within a couple of days, even less
but it is impossible to say as everyone will react differently. To make
sure the rx is correct you might want to monitor on a daily basis and
be ready to change it if necessary. Best wishes, Joy
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[radha rani]

kidney stones are of different types. We need to check the kind of stones by urine examination or other methods in consultation with the nephrologist.The size of the stones too is important. If the size is larger the best way is laser treatment or operation. Both are safe. Homeopathy surely has the treatment.But when the constituional medicine is given the stones get expelled by bursting and pressurising the whole channel. Patients wouldn't be tolerable to bear the pain the medicine would cause as a process of expulsion. the stones might cause pain to the patient naturally during the course of treatment during urination as a result of expulsion.(particularly Nux vom patients), which might drive him to take another medicine ultimately supressing the constitutional drug there by
causing no cure or failure of homeopathy.
The best way of managing the kidney stones is to go for laser treatment or surgery if the size of the stones is larger. if the size is smaller and the kind of stones is diagnised , homeo is the best way of treatment not missing the patient or treatment.one can even take the homeo treatment to get free from the tendency of stone formation after the surgery ( or laser treatment). The size and the stage of the problem is most important in selection of treatment.
classifying the stones is important. berberies v,Terebinthina, nuxvomica, china,sarsaparilla, lycopodium, silica are some of the homeo medicines useful but given on totality of
the symptoms. berb v. is used as a specific.
Vijay Kumar wrote:
Dear list and scholars,

Kindly tell me what is the cure for kidney stones. Can the stones be dissolved by homoeo medication or they could be expelled only ?

Your insight would help me.

Thanks,

Vijay Kumar

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[muthu kumar]

In my experience I have seen stones doing both - getting expelled or
dissolved - after homeopathic medicines. I have not been able to
tell when it does what...
In general the results have been good basing the prescription on
other concomitants... Once a presription was made based on abdominal
symptoms and Carb.veg given...

in another case based on vertigo < on waking ( the latest symptom),
Lach was given...

Treatment varies and you would do better to consult a local
homeopathic doctor and follow up
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stones by urine examination or other methods in consultation with
the nephrologist.The size of the stones too is important. If the
size is larger the best way is laser treatment or operation. Both
are safe. Homeopathy surely has the treatment.But when the
constituional medicine is given the stones get expelled by bursting
and pressurising the whole channel. Patients wouldn't be tolerable
to bear the pain the medicine would cause as a process of expulsion.
the stones might cause pain to the patient naturally during the
course of treatment during urination as a result of expulsion.
(particularly Nux vom patients), which might drive him to take
another medicine ultimately supressing the constitutional drug there
by
treatment or surgery if the size of the stones is larger. if the
size is smaller and the kind of stones is diagnised , homeo is the
best way of treatment not missing the patient or treatment.one can
even take the homeo treatment to get free from the tendency of stone
formation after the surgery ( or laser treatment). The size and the
stage of the problem is most important in selection of treatment.
nuxvomica, china,sarsaparilla, lycopodium, silica are some of the
homeo medicines useful but given on totality of
be dissolved by homoeo medication or they could be expelled only ?

[Vijay Kumar]

Dear list and scholars,

Kindly tell me what is the cure for kidney stones. Can the stones be dissolved by homoeo medication or they could be expelled only ?

Your insight would help me.

Thanks,

Vijay Kumar

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[Jennifer Lennon]

I realize this is a homeopathy list, but I've had great success with
Chanca Piedra (an herb, which translates to "stone crusher"). I'm sure
the reason one would get either oxalate or sturvite stones would need to
be addressed homeopathically. But at least the stone crusher will
dissolve the stones while you address the underlying cause.
That laser business is nasty.
I even had a patient who had stones in his urethra and the Chanca Piedra
cleared him up (confirmed with radiographs). Albeit it was a dog ,
but it is from people learning that I apply to dogs.
...jenn
www.animlawellness.ca

[Dale Moss]

Sorry to disagree, but not all large kidney stones are expelled whole after homeopathic treatment. I've seen stones too large to pass whole dissolve and pass effortlessly after homeopathic treatment, with no allopathic intervention necessary.

Peace,
Dale

[Irene de Villiers]

Dale Moss wrote:

Yep - same with gall stones.
....Irene

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