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Hi
Soroush
You wrote:Please read the ORGANON 101-104
Rgds...
Soroush
Do you mean this bit:
The physician of the old school made it extremely comfortable for himself in this regard. He did not make precise enquiries into all the circumstances of the case; indeed he often even interrupted the patient who was descrinbing his individual complaints so that he would not be distracted in quickly writing the prescription, which was composed of several ingredients who true effects were unknown to him. As we have said, no allopathic physician ever wanted to know all the precise circumstances of a case, and much less did he write any of them down. When he saw the patient again several days later he knew little of nothing of the few particulars he had heard............and this is how people who call themselves doctors, rational physicaicans, practiced what is really the gravest of all occupations, the conscientious and careful investigation of every individual case and the appropriate therapy based on it.... Aph 104
I know he mentions GE, too, but seems to be referring to judging each epidemic on its own merits and to expect each to be different from preceding ones and subsequent ones, even of the same type. The concept is being stretched when it comes to chronic and degenerative disease, imo.
......and to Shannon
I do not, obviously, have a problem with acute prescribing or GE in themselves .Believe me, I would struggle to cope with an English winter if I did! But *if *Epidemic is going to be used to apply to chronic disease and there is an inference that different rules are to be applied in the developed and developing countries it sounds as if someone might be going to be short changed somewhere!
........and to Carol
Sorry, I did not mean to jump down your throat. The remark about complexes wasn't being applied to you (or PC for that matter) but to things like the Narayani complexes, the south american made complex being used for aids in botswana and also the homemade complexes we sometimes hear of, or at least I do. The premise is always the same, that there is no time for individualised treatment (classical treatment often specified), and that results are brilliant. Which makes me wonder why anyone bothers to do anything else. Unfortunately you copped the flak for all the other times i haven't said anything. Not that it was actually intended as flak, but I seem to be having a problem expressing myself so as not to be misunderstood these days. Time for a holiday!
bw
Theresa
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Dear Theresa
I said "read 101 -104" - However, you have qtd the footnote to 104
Here is what I mean - I have included Aph 100 for sake of completeness.
Aph 100
In investigating the totality of the symptoms of epidemic and sporadic
diseases it is quite immaterial whether or not something similar has ever
appeared in the world before under the same or any other name. The novelty
or peculiarity of a disease of that kind makes no difference either in the
mode of examining or of treating it, as the physician must any way regard to
pure picture of every prevailing disease as if it were something new and
unknown, and investigate it thoroughly for itself, if he desire to practice
medicine in a real and radical manner, never substituting conjecture for
actual observation, never taking for granted that the case of disease before
him is already wholly or partially known, but always carefully examining it
in all its phases; and this mode of procedure is all the more requisite in
such cases, as a careful examination will show that every prevailing disease
is in many respects a phenomenon of a unique character, differing vastly
from all previous epidemics, to which certain names have been falsely
applied - with the exception of those epidemics resulting from a contagious
principle that always remains the same, such as smallpox, measles, etc.
Aph 101
It may easily happen that in the first case of an epidemic disease that
presents itself to the physician's notice he does not at once obtain a
knowledge of its complete picture, as it is only by a close observation of
several cases of every such collective disease that he can become conversant
with the totality of its signs and symptoms. The carefully observing
physician can, however, from the examination of even the first and second
patients, often arrive so nearly at a knowledge of the true state as to have
in his mind a characteristic portrait of it, and even to succeed in finding
a suitable, homoopathically adapted remedy for it.
Aph 102
In the course of writing down the symptoms of several cases of this kind the
sketch of the disease picture becomes ever more and more complete, not more
spun out and verbose, but more significant (more characteristic), and
including more of the peculiarities of this collective disease; on the one
hand, the general symptoms (e.g., loss of appetite, sleeplessness, etc.)
become precisely defined as to their peculiarities; and on the other, the
more marked and special symptoms which are peculiar to but few diseases and
of rarer occurrence, at least in the same combination, become prominent and
constitute what is characteristic of this malady.1 All those affected with
the disease prevailing at a given time have certainly contracted it from one
and the same source and hence are suffering from the same disease; but the
whole extent of such an epidemic disease and the totality of its symptoms
(the knowledge whereof, which is essential for enabling us to choose the
most suitable homoopathic remedy for this array of symptoms, is obtained by
a complete survey of the morbid picture) cannot be learned from one single
patient, but is only to be perfectly deduced (abstracted) and ascertained
from the sufferings of several patients of different constitutions.
1 The physician who has already, in the first cases, been able to choose a
remedy approximating to the homoopathic specific, will, from the subsequence
cases, be enabled either to verify the suitableness of the medicine chosen,
or to discover a more appropriate, the most appropriate homoopathic remedy.
Aph 103
In the same manner as has here been taught relative to the epidemic disease,
which are generally of an acute character, the miasmatic chronic maladies,
which, as I have shown, always remain the same in their essential nature,
especially the psora, must be investigated, as to the whole sphere of their
symptoms, in a much more minute manner than has ever been done before, for
in them also one patient only exhibits a portion of their symptoms, a
second, a third, and so on, present some other symptoms, which also are but
a (dissevered, as it were), portion of the totality of the symptoms which
constitute the entire extent of this malady, so that the whole array of the
symptoms belonging to such a miasmatic, chronic disease, and especially to
the psora, can only be ascertained from the observation of very many single
patients affected with such a chronic disease, and without a complete survey
and collective picture of these symptoms the medicines capable of curing the
whole malady homoopathically (to wit, the antipsorics) cannot be discovered;
and these medicines are, at the same time, the true remedies of the several
patients suffering from such chronic affections.
Aph 104
When the totality of the symptoms that specially mark and distinguish the
case of disease or, in other words, when the picture of the disease,
whatever be its kind, is once accurately sketched,1 the most difficult part
of the task is accomplished. The physician has then the picture of the
disease, especially if it be a chronic one, always before him to guide him
in his treatment; he can investigate it in all its parts and can pick out
the characteristic symptoms, in order to oppose to these, that is to say, to
the whole malady itself, a very similar artificial morbific force, in the
shape of a homoopathically chosen medicinal substance, selected from the
lists of symptoms of all the medicines whose pure effects have been
ascertained. And when, during the treatment, he wishes to ascertain what has
been the effect of the medicine, and what change has taken place in the
patient's state, at this fresh examination of the patient he only needs to
strike out of the list of the symptoms noted down at the first visit those
that have become ameliorated, to mark what still remain, and add any new
symptoms that may have supervened.
Rgds
Soroush
Hi Theresa,
Oops, I see where the confusion came in...
Altho, as you point out, AIDS is not exactly an acute (because it goes
on and on), it is not chronic either, in the sense that we are usually
talking about. I think it would fit into the "half-acute" category?
It's not chronic in the sense that psora et al. are.
What's your reason for feeling that "epidemic" is an inappropriate term
for the circumstances? It's caused by same organism (at least the true
AIDS cases are presumed to be) and affecting the same populations in
large numbers at the same time...
No, that's was Chris's misinterpretation! However, as with any
illness, differences in circumstance and constitution may necessitate
different treatment. I don't think there was more to it than that.
But I gather that it has also worked well for at least some AIDS
patients here in the US--I have no statistics or anything like that,
tho.
Shannon
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I guess you don't want to look at it.
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Hi Sheri,
I do want to, and I will... The bit that I've tried so far was
discouraging, because some of it sounds like misunderstanding (similar
to what the Stephen Barrets of the world are doing to homeopathy), and
some of it I have no basis to evaluate--which is why I asked what you
could tell us about who these people are, their backgrounds and
credentials. Because lots of people say lots of things... And as I
said, so much of this theory just seems in direct contradiction to the
evidence (as I've understood it over the past 25 years or whatever it's
been).
And *especially* when you've begun to send similar objections to
*every* disease recently mentioned, it just becomes hard to believe
that it's *all* made up, and since you didn't reply to those questions
in my post from last night, I am no further ahead re West Nile and
whatnot.
Well anyway, later today I hope I can try again to read your links.
Best,
Shannon
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