The similum is not those little sugar pills. It is a principle with wider application.
I need some help with understanding how to treat large second or third degree burns on the torso. I don't have such a problem now, but I am asking because I often use a burn example to explain the homeopathy the principle of the similum to a newcomer to Homeopathy.
My question is, if a person is burned badly on the torso, and you don't have a remedy (even if you have one) do you apply the principle of the similum? That is, do you apply a warm application to the hot burn? The conventional wisdom is to apply the allopathic principle of opposites to burns. So, cold or even ice would be applied to a burn. If anyone has compared treating small burns on their fingers with warm and cold applications, they know that the homeopathic principle is much more healing. Naturally, if the body is told that it is too hot (because of the burn), it will react by healing the burn. If it is told that the burn is actually cold, the vital force will not focus on healing the burn.
If the burn is on the torso, would you still apply a warm compress? Both hot and cold applications look very painful to me (I just saw the conventional treatment on TV). Does it matter that the burn is on the torso?
If anyone knows, I would appreciate some guidance.
Blessings,
Ellen Madono
For your information here is an example of burn healing:
I sometimes use the story healing my husbands burned foot with a warm compress. On the night before my mother-in-law's funeral, I mistakenly drew his bath using only very hot burning water. Luckily only his foot was butned, but the skin was bright red I would have blistered had I not applied the principle of the similum. I heated a towel with hot water and placed it in a plastic bag. Ignoring his howls of pain, I made him sleep the night with the warm compress. In the morning, the skin on his foot looked normal and there was no burning pain. Only between his toes there was a big water blister. Of course the warm compress has failed to reach between his toes. He could wear his shoes and appear as the eldest and only son for the funeral.
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Re: Burns
hi ellen
even some of the allopathic colleagues apply warm compresses in such cases.
marco
Kathryn Ellen Madono wrote:
The similum is not those little sugar pills. It is a principle with wider application.
I need some help with understanding how to treat large second or third degree burns on the torso. I don't have such a problem now, but I am asking because I often use a burn example to explain the homeopathy the principle of the similum to a newcomer to Homeopathy.
My question is, if a person is burned badly on the torso, and you don't have a remedy (even if you have one) do you apply the principle of the similum? That is, do you apply a warm application to the hot burn? The conventional wisdom is to apply the allopathic principle of opposites to burns. So, cold or even ice would be applied to a burn. If anyone has compared treating small burns on their fingers with warm and cold applications, they know that the homeopathic principle is much more healing. Naturally, if the body is told that it is too hot (because of the burn), it will react by healing the burn. If it is told that the burn is actually cold, the vital force will not focus on healing the burn.
If the burn is on the torso, would you still apply a warm compress? Both hot and cold applications look very painful to me (I just saw the conventional treatment on TV). Does it matter that the burn is on the torso?
If anyone knows, I would appreciate some guidance.
Blessings,
Ellen Madono
For your information here is an example of burn healing:
I sometimes use the story healing my husbands burned foot with a warm compress. On the night before my mother-in-law's funeral, I mistakenly drew his bath using only very hot burning water. Luckily only his foot was butned, but the skin was bright red I would have blistered had I not applied the principle of the similum. I heated a towel with hot water and placed it in a plastic bag. Ignoring his howls of pain, I made him sleep the night with the warm compress. In the morning, the skin on his foot looked normal and there was no burning pain. Only between his toes there was a big water blister. Of course the warm compress has failed to reach between his toes. He could wear his shoes and appear as the eldest and only son for the funeral.
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even some of the allopathic colleagues apply warm compresses in such cases.
marco
Kathryn Ellen Madono wrote:
The similum is not those little sugar pills. It is a principle with wider application.
I need some help with understanding how to treat large second or third degree burns on the torso. I don't have such a problem now, but I am asking because I often use a burn example to explain the homeopathy the principle of the similum to a newcomer to Homeopathy.
My question is, if a person is burned badly on the torso, and you don't have a remedy (even if you have one) do you apply the principle of the similum? That is, do you apply a warm application to the hot burn? The conventional wisdom is to apply the allopathic principle of opposites to burns. So, cold or even ice would be applied to a burn. If anyone has compared treating small burns on their fingers with warm and cold applications, they know that the homeopathic principle is much more healing. Naturally, if the body is told that it is too hot (because of the burn), it will react by healing the burn. If it is told that the burn is actually cold, the vital force will not focus on healing the burn.
If the burn is on the torso, would you still apply a warm compress? Both hot and cold applications look very painful to me (I just saw the conventional treatment on TV). Does it matter that the burn is on the torso?
If anyone knows, I would appreciate some guidance.
Blessings,
Ellen Madono
For your information here is an example of burn healing:
I sometimes use the story healing my husbands burned foot with a warm compress. On the night before my mother-in-law's funeral, I mistakenly drew his bath using only very hot burning water. Luckily only his foot was butned, but the skin was bright red I would have blistered had I not applied the principle of the similum. I heated a towel with hot water and placed it in a plastic bag. Ignoring his howls of pain, I made him sleep the night with the warm compress. In the morning, the skin on his foot looked normal and there was no burning pain. Only between his toes there was a big water blister. Of course the warm compress has failed to reach between his toes. He could wear his shoes and appear as the eldest and only son for the funeral.
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Re: Burns
Hn mentions the treatment of burns in the introduction to the Organon
"Thus we find in these examples of successful domestic practice, that it is
not the prolonged application of the degree of cold in which the limb was
frozen that restores it isopathically (it would thereby be rendered quite
lifeless and dead), but a degree of cold that only approximates to that
(homoeopathy), and which gradually rises to a comfortable temperature, as
frozen sour crout laid upon the frost-bitten hand in the temperature of the
room soon melts, gradually growing warmer from 32?33?hr.) to the temperature
of the room, supposing that to be only 55?d thus the limb is recovered by
physical homoeopathy. In like manner, a hand scalded with boiling water
would not be cured isopathically by the application of boiling water, but
only by a somewhat lower temperature, as, for example, by holding it in a
vessel containing a fluid heated to 160?ich becomes every minute less hot,
and finally descends to the temperature of the room, whereupon the scalded
part is restored by homoeopathy. Water in the act of freezing cannot draw
out the frost isopathically from potatoes and apples, but this is effected
by water only near the freezing-point.
So, to give another example from physical action, the injury resulting from
a blow on the forehead with a hard substance (a painful lump) is soon
diminished in pain and swelling by pressing on the spot for a considerable
time with the ball of the thumb strongly at first, and then gradually less
forcibly, homoeopathically but not by an equally hard blow with an equally
hard body, which would increase the evil isopathically."
For first degree burns, I put the affected area under tepid water and then
gradually reduce the cold water through mixer taps until the heat of the
water is unbearable. The area is held under this water for about a minute
and then removed and gently dried.
The pain goes away and the area heals very quickly - much faster than if it
was held under cold water.
Rgds
Soroush
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"Thus we find in these examples of successful domestic practice, that it is
not the prolonged application of the degree of cold in which the limb was
frozen that restores it isopathically (it would thereby be rendered quite
lifeless and dead), but a degree of cold that only approximates to that
(homoeopathy), and which gradually rises to a comfortable temperature, as
frozen sour crout laid upon the frost-bitten hand in the temperature of the
room soon melts, gradually growing warmer from 32?33?hr.) to the temperature
of the room, supposing that to be only 55?d thus the limb is recovered by
physical homoeopathy. In like manner, a hand scalded with boiling water
would not be cured isopathically by the application of boiling water, but
only by a somewhat lower temperature, as, for example, by holding it in a
vessel containing a fluid heated to 160?ich becomes every minute less hot,
and finally descends to the temperature of the room, whereupon the scalded
part is restored by homoeopathy. Water in the act of freezing cannot draw
out the frost isopathically from potatoes and apples, but this is effected
by water only near the freezing-point.
So, to give another example from physical action, the injury resulting from
a blow on the forehead with a hard substance (a painful lump) is soon
diminished in pain and swelling by pressing on the spot for a considerable
time with the ball of the thumb strongly at first, and then gradually less
forcibly, homoeopathically but not by an equally hard blow with an equally
hard body, which would increase the evil isopathically."
For first degree burns, I put the affected area under tepid water and then
gradually reduce the cold water through mixer taps until the heat of the
water is unbearable. The area is held under this water for about a minute
and then removed and gently dried.
The pain goes away and the area heals very quickly - much faster than if it
was held under cold water.
Rgds
Soroush
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Re: Burns
Interesting question, but applying any compress to a second or third degree
burn would, IMHO, be a mistake. The tissue is too damaged and too open to
infection.
I've heard that you can moisten a dressing with sterile water dosed with
Ignis alcoholus (Fire) and apply it to third degree burns. Supposedly,
keeping the dressing moist with the solution allows the burn to heal
underneath without requiring painful debridement.
I haven't tried that, but I do know Ignis is a grand remedy for burns. I
live in glassblowing country, and every so often there are accidents with
molten glass. With Ignis 30c taken internally, pain goes right away and the
burn heals within days. Amazing, as are most homeopathic results!
Peace,
Cinnabar
burn would, IMHO, be a mistake. The tissue is too damaged and too open to
infection.
I've heard that you can moisten a dressing with sterile water dosed with
Ignis alcoholus (Fire) and apply it to third degree burns. Supposedly,
keeping the dressing moist with the solution allows the burn to heal
underneath without requiring painful debridement.
I haven't tried that, but I do know Ignis is a grand remedy for burns. I
live in glassblowing country, and every so often there are accidents with
molten glass. With Ignis 30c taken internally, pain goes right away and the
burn heals within days. Amazing, as are most homeopathic results!
Peace,
Cinnabar
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Re: Burns
Hi Ellen,
Have you read descriptions of using calendula dressings for burns?
They're quite impressive! Re your question about warm compresses, I
would think other issues come into it, such as sterility... But I look
forward to others' thoughts on that!
Shannon
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Have you read descriptions of using calendula dressings for burns?
They're quite impressive! Re your question about warm compresses, I
would think other issues come into it, such as sterility... But I look
forward to others' thoughts on that!
Shannon
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Re: Burns
Hi CInnabar,
I'm happy to have the tip about Ignis! I had not heard of that.
Have you (and all) read about using calendula dressings for severe
burns? It sounds very impressive! What I read (I forget where) is
that you use gauze drenched in calendula solution, and *do not change
the dressing* until substantial healing has taken place; it will look
nasty and stink, but as long as it's kept *damp* with calendula
solution, healing will continue, with (so I read) no scarring even in
very severe burns. Can anyone remember more detail?
Shannon
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I'm happy to have the tip about Ignis! I had not heard of that.
Have you (and all) read about using calendula dressings for severe
burns? It sounds very impressive! What I read (I forget where) is
that you use gauze drenched in calendula solution, and *do not change
the dressing* until substantial healing has taken place; it will look
nasty and stink, but as long as it's kept *damp* with calendula
solution, healing will continue, with (so I read) no scarring even in
very severe burns. Can anyone remember more detail?
Shannon
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Re: Burns
I have used Calendula like this and also as a spray without any
dressing - wonderful stuff (as is pure honey on burns). Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
http://homepage.mac.com/joylucas/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/provings
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dressing - wonderful stuff (as is pure honey on burns). Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
http://homepage.mac.com/joylucas/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/provings
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Re: Burns
Another one is causticum in a C1, some drops on the burned skin.
Marco
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Re: Burns
in a plastic surgery department they used an ointment in which the main component was calendula. It was applied like u mention, letting it on for days
marco
Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
Hi CInnabar,
I'm happy to have the tip about Ignis! I had not heard of that.
Have you (and all) read about using calendula dressings for severe
burns? It sounds very impressive! What I read (I forget where) is
that you use gauze drenched in calendula solution, and *do not change
the dressing* until substantial healing has taken place; it will look
nasty and stink, but as long as it's kept *damp* with calendula
solution, healing will continue, with (so I read) no scarring even in
very severe burns. Can anyone remember more detail?
Shannon
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Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
Hi CInnabar,
I'm happy to have the tip about Ignis! I had not heard of that.
Have you (and all) read about using calendula dressings for severe
burns? It sounds very impressive! What I read (I forget where) is
that you use gauze drenched in calendula solution, and *do not change
the dressing* until substantial healing has taken place; it will look
nasty and stink, but as long as it's kept *damp* with calendula
solution, healing will continue, with (so I read) no scarring even in
very severe burns. Can anyone remember more detail?
Shannon
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Re: Burns
How great to hear! Where is/was this hospital--what country?
Shannon
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