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Simon King LCPH MARH
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miasmatic leaders

Post by Simon King LCPH MARH »

As sulph is to Psora, and as merc is to syphilis, and thuja is to
sycosis, what is to cancer?
(don't say carcinosin - that would be like med is to sycosis, psorinum
is to psor, etc..)

Just wondered...

The answer might be obvious but it's late and the little grey cells are
waning

Simon


Shannon Nelson
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Re: miasmatic leaders

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Um, interesting!!!
Which leads me to wonder, *why* is sulphur the leader for psora rather
than psorinum, and merc rather than syphillinum, and thuja rather than
... um, according to Will Taylor the rx to insert here would *not* be
Med--what would it be?

Musing over my first question--surely the reason is related to why
isopathy tends to be less effective than homeopathy? Which (I muse)
maybe has to do with the difference between "treating the cause" versus
"treating the *effect* of the cause, on the *patient*"??? That e.g.
psorinum is about the disease, but sulphur is about the diseased
individual, something like that?

Shannon


Joy Lucas
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Post by Joy Lucas »

The satellite rx that seem to cling to carcinosin would be contenders
for this but if I had to choose just one (that wasn't a nosode) I think
I would lean towards one of the following - Staph, Conium, Arsenicum,
Phos, Phytolacca.

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Simon King LCPH MARH
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Post by Simon King LCPH MARH »

Certainly staph came to mind first, then foll etc., but then there
seemed to be too many other contenders, then I thought ( after I had
sent the post to minutus) that of course there is no single Rx
relationship ( leader) like there is with the other s maisms because
one of the indications for the nosode carcinosin is more than one
remedy indicated therefore the miasm will, it follows, be represented
equally by more than one Rx

Any way as I said , It was late and the little grey cells had their
jim-jams on:-) lol
Simon
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Joy Lucas
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Post by Joy Lucas »

Because cancer is a malignant capsule that encompasses all the other
miasmatic influences is one reason why so many rx could be the 'leader'
and why carcinosin DOES fit that bill more comfortably than any other
single rx. Best, Joy
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Simon King LCPH MARH
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Post by Simon King LCPH MARH »

Agreed, which is why there is no leader rx in the same relationship to
the ca maism from other remedies , as there is with the psor, syph and
syc miasms

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Shannon Nelson
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Re: miasmatic leaders

Post by Shannon Nelson »

I was wondering why the situation with cancer / carc would be different
from the others, and one thought is that "cancer" is really a
completely different thing from the others! Different causes,
different expressions--could be toxic, infectious, even mechanical.
It's a general category of response, not really a "disease" as such--at
least, that's how it looks to me. So then "satellite remedies" might
be the best we could do...
Shannon


Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: miasmatic leaders

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

Dear Shannon

If you study Peter Chappell's thoughts on miasms, (The Second Similimum ISBN
807103-3-4) one may develop a different perspective on the whole issue of
miasms and their respective remedies.

In the main, Peter regards Miasm as the Chronic Effect of Epidemic Diseases.
(CEEDs)
Hahnemann effectively found specifics for a few of these - for example as
has been mentioned, Merc for Syphilis and Thuja for Gon.
When it came to Psora Hn grouped together a number of diseases all with skin
eruptions with an itch and he called these Psora.
So starting from scabies we have chicken-pox, measles etc etc., the after
effects of which continue to cause further chronic problems.
[This may explain why there are so many anti-psoric remedies as such.]

I think 'Cancer' could fall into a similar category because there are
various types of tumours and different initiating or maintaining causes.
Therefore there cannot be a single anti-cancer remedy. Additionally, cancer
or tumours are just symptoms not diseases. These symptoms indicate that the
body's immune or defence system has failed to recognise a group of cells
that just like terrorists are hell bent of destroying the society and will
use all resources available to do so.

So the treatment of tumours needs a thorough and systematic set of
prescriptions.

Rgds
Soroush


Joy Lucas
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Post by Joy Lucas »

I don't think it is different, it is an amalgamation of the 3 miasms
and thus is just like any other mixed miasmatic state. Also there isn't
just ONE syphilitic remedy, neither just one sycotic rx, there are many
as every remedy has its own particular miasmatic slot, so the leaders
are just representative of its main miasm.

As to the satellite rx, there are others, Sepia would be considered one
probably as well as Nat mur and countless others that are suggestive of
the cancer diathesis - the main focus being suppression of emotions
versus an overwhelming sense of duty the end result of which is often
disappointment, loss of self, deep unresolved sadness etc + (and this
is important) a touch of whatever other miasm/s is present. It is quite
a palette of disease.

If you mix together a diseased state that suggests psora/sulphur + one
that suggests sycosis/thuja and one that suggests syphilis/mercurius
and finally one that suggests cancer, what remedy comes to mind most of
all??

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H. Balasubramanian
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Re: miasmatic leaders

Post by H. Balasubramanian »

Dear,
As per Hahnemann Psorinum for Psora is Idiopathy and not homoeopathy. Idem = same. Homoeopathy = similar and not same. “Chronic diseases”
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