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Rosemary C Hyde
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Rubric help -- holding breath

Post by Rosemary C Hyde »

Hi.

I have a client who complains that he keeps holding his breath unconsciously. He finally feels a "slight suffactive" feeling, and then realizes he needs to breathe out so that he can get more air into his lungs. No sighing. I've looked at "respiration-- intermittent," "respiration - catching" -- are there any other possibilities that strike anyone?

Thanks!

Rosemary

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Ellen Madono
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Re: Rubric help -- holding breath

Post by Ellen Madono »

Hi Rosemary,
These are from Radar 9
MIND - FEAR - suffocation, of
RESPIRATION - BREATHING - holding the breath - agg.
RESPIRATION - ARRESTED
RESPIRATION - DIFFICULT - breathing - deep
Blessings,
Ellen


Robyn
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Re: Rubric help -- holding breath

Post by Robyn »

Rosemary wrote:

I have a client who complains that he keeps holding his breath
unconsciously. He finally feels a "slight suffactive" feeling, and then
realizes he needs to breathe out so that he can get more air into his lungs.
No sighing. I've looked at "respiration-- intermittent," "respiration -
catching" -- are there any other possibilities that strike anyone?

--------------------------------------

Rosemary, how about

RESPIRATION - ARRESTED - forgets to breath

plut-n.srj7
Best

Robyn
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Caro
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Re: Rubric help -- holding breath

Post by Caro »

Dear Rosemary,

You could try:

Respiration, suffocation
Respiration, impeded
Respiration, arrested
Respiration, arrested, forgets to breathe: plut_n (from Synthesis)
Mind, respiration
Generals, breathing, holding the breath: dros, Kali_n, led, meny,
merc, Spig (from Synthesis)

Best wishes,
Caro.


muthu kumar
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Re: Rubric help -- holding breath

Post by muthu kumar »

Hi-
Try -sensation as if he were holding his breath--- Drosera
If you look at HARoberts there are many symptoms around this same
symptom-Something in chest prevented exhalation- Dros,Exhalation
prevented by talking or coughing -Dros,air were withheld when
talking or coughing - Dros
Another one is Oxalic acid - he made a sudden effort to relieve
himself be expelling air from his lungs...

Just out of curiosity - is he anxious? Has any aerophagy? Is this
holding breath happens all the time or under any special
circumstances- how about while sleep? Wakes up with want of breath?
what happens during exercise or running or bathing(showers).. When
is his breathing normal?
unconsciously. He finally feels a "slight suffactive" feeling, and
then realizes he needs to breathe out so that he can get more air
into his lungs. No sighing. I've looked at "respiration--
intermittent," "respiration - catching" -- are there any other
possibilities that strike anyone?


d_barbara_hamilton
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Re: Rubric help -- holding breath

Post by d_barbara_hamilton »

Hi Rosemary,

Apart from the aforementioned Generals, breathing, holding the breath: dros,
Kali_n, led, meny, merc, Spig (from Synthesis) overall - I wonder 'why'
also. In my experience it starts from a shock or frightening event, when it literally
takes the breath away. Upper respiratory breathing is associated with extreme
anxiety leading to breath-holding, but can also take place when concentration
needed - as in fine manual work, etc. Important to define what it relates to, as
Hahnemannian points out.

best wishes, Barbara
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Rosemary C Hyde
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Re: Rubric help -- holding breath

Post by Rosemary C Hyde »

RESPIRATION - ARRESTED - forgets to breath
Hi, Robyn.

Thanks! Darn! That should be the rubric, but it's not the remedy. I'm leaning toward Hydrogen for this client -- total difficulty finding himself in contrast to the wide universe of energy, along with being awakened from sleep every night by restlessness in his legs. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions -- as always it's very useful to learn some of the treasures in the Repertories. :-))

Rosemary


d_barbara_hamilton
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Re: Rubric help -- holding breath

Post by d_barbara_hamilton »

Hi Rosemary,

Have you ruled out Phos - as they also have restless legs that wake them ?
Plus -
Holds breath (66): 3Bell., 3Cact., 3Dig., 3Spig., 3Sulph., 2bry., 2pyrog., agar.,
androc., ang., ant-c., ant-m., ant-t., apis, arg-n., ars., asaf., berb., brom., calc.,
calc-f., cham., chel., chin., cic., clem., coff., conv., corv-c., cupr., dios., dpt, dros.,
gins., glon., grin., heli., hydr-ac., hyper., ip., kali-n., kalm., lac-eq., lach., lap-mar-c.,
led., lob., lyc., lyss., meny., merc., mez., mosch., nit-ac., op., pancreas, phos., prun.,
puls., ruta, sanic., taosc., thuj., verat-v., xan., zinc.

Just a thought.

best wishes, Barbara
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Rosemary C Hyde"
wrote:
toward Hydrogen for this client -- total difficulty finding himself in contrast to the
wide universe of energy, along with being awakened from sleep every night by
restlessness in his legs. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions -- as always it's
very useful to learn some of the treasures in the Repertories. :-))


Joy Lucas
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Re: Rubric help -- holding breath

Post by Joy Lucas »

I would call this suffocative air hunger and because this is a keynote
of Sulphur (both when asleep as in sleep apnoea and when awake) you
could use the rubric 'breathing, difficult, from oppression in
epigastrium' if it fits but it does call in to question why the person
is doing this in the first place. Best wishes, Joy
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