arnica prophylaxis

[muthu kumar]

And is Arnica such a bad thing when the patient is going to bathed
in chemicals and anesthetic gases and injections - come on folks-
get a grip, is all of this OK and Arnica is not?

Why should we think in epidemics prophylaxis could be allowed even
without symptoms? What is the basic assumption - or is it basic
delusion- I know of the collective anamnesis and collective symptoms
and all the jazz...
Remedies like Arnica have been used before symptom similarity and
Hahnemann... and lot of them were used BEFORE any such condition
occurred for which they were indicated as a preventive... Garlic for
example in many cases was used as a general preventive of bronchitis
and TB and is also curative when the conditions occurred... many
cultures have used it so... well of course people would boil my head
for this is a non-homeopathic use...

We all have cases where we give many medicines for the patient
before arriving at the remedy... sometimes we never arrive at the
simillimum - are we not spoiling the cases then? what would Arnica
do to spoil a case that all of this does not?

And we have had cases where Arnica was useful as a PROPHYLACTIC...
as you say Arnica 30 was used in proving and so who knows the
patient is already proving it or whatever and when the insult or
injury occurs some therapeutic protective effect was already in the
making... some of these are only from experience of people and not
necessarily thru proving - and for now there is sufficient anecdotal
evidence to not look down upon such practice...
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Joy Lucas wrote:
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[Joy Lucas]

Who says this level of allopathy is ok?

There is only one question and that is 'why prescribe a rx if there is
no obvious need for it'. There would be in a life threatening epidemic.
An epidemic would be full of symptoms to prescribe on - either
individual or collective.

You seem to be mixing allopathy, preventative medicine and homeopathy
altogether.

Arnica and Valerian and Chamomile and many other substances have been
overly popular ever since their introduction and people get ill from
this over use (if you care to read your MM's).

Boiling your head sounds quite appealing as this sx similarity seems to
be prevailing with you. Joy
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[Soroush Ebrahimi]

My experience with my daughters' wisdom teeth (6) extractions is that after
is MUCH better than before and after.

Rgds
Soroush

[muthu kumar]

Oh Sure - thanks for preaching as expected..

I do not know how to practise and what is homeopathy and allopathy
that I need some Hubris Incarnate to teach me while blithely boiling
my head... Let me take some prophylaxis - oops sorry - I do not know
my preventive medicine either...( Or is it prevenTAtive?)

Joy - you have become a kill-joy...

I do not mind Arnica as prophylaxis and you do not prescribe that
way... let us leave it like that since my head has gone mushy from
too much boiling... ( do you like cabbages with it?)
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Joy Lucas wrote:
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[Shannon Nelson]

I asked mainly from curiosity. If there are pre-surgery symptoms that
seem to need prescribing on, then I would (fear, anxiety, or
preexisting chronic issues)--I haven't seen this to *usually* be the
case, but I haven't seen that many people pre-surgery. A total of
three, I suppose, one of whom was myself!

I've heard several times that in *some* people arnica pre-surgery can
lead to increased bleeding and/or difficulties with anaesthesia. I've
also heard that hypericum pre-surgery can interfere with
anaesthesia--but also that it can be used *instead* of anaesthesia. I
haven't the confidence to try either of these *instead* (not
pre-surgery I mean; I have certainly found arnica effective in place of
painkillers after surgery!), so haven't known what might be the
advantage, weighing against the reported risks, over simply giving the
remedy as soon as practical *after* surgery, while in any case the
patient is still comfortable from the anaesthetic.

Personally I would *not* prescribe any remedy pre-surgery (or
prophylactically in general) unless I had a definite reason; and if I
*did* have a definite reason, then I wouldn't hesitate. I'm just
curious about *why* some people give it before, rather than after; I've
heard about possible disadvantages, but haven't heard anything very
convincing about advantages--again, just curious!
Shannon

[Shannon Nelson]

Hahnemann did allow and even advocate prophylaxis in certain
situations. I recall in the Organon he mentions Bell. for (I think it
was) "the smooth something-or-other of Sydenham", which I think equates
with strep--do others recall other examples?
Shannon