Enlightenment Vs Classical Homosexuality - for Chris

[doctorleelah2h]

My Dear Chris,
thank you for a very enlightening and compassionate post.

MAybe your last stentence was aimed at me, i dont' know - I still
haven't gone through more resposes to my earier posts. I"m sure I"m
going to have a lot of flack.

Just for the record - because i unfortunately haven't interacted with
a gay person on a personal basis (as in close friendship) - I wouldn't
be able to give you personal experience of my responses.
BUt as a practitioner - I dont' "tolerate" gay people. I see them as
People with their (non-sexual) problems just like me - period.

I do not deny the pain and discrimination caused by Chruch, state,
government and family. They have caused any amount of pain towards gay
people over the centuries. It is shameful prejudice - what we all
humans are capable of (not just church, state and government).

You said: "The absolute last thing that I
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I don't think this is at ALL what I was conveying in any of my old
fashioned and freaky posts. (YEs I possibly see myself as a freak on
this list! - see my earlier post to Simon).

What I'm saying is, that homosexuality has nothing to do with
society/church/state. It is a personal sexual experience at the level
of the soul. Why it happened to a particlar person, is what none of us
really know.
But, from my perspective, it still has to do with expereincing the
love of God in ones soul. What one does with that then, is to
understand what this love is about and what God is about. Despite the
prejudice and discrimination in society.
When one reaches that point, one automatically reaches the point of
deciding, how do I feel about continuing as a homosexual. One makes a
choice - to continue to not to - influenced by various personal factors.

IF the choice is not to for various reaosns (and not only becasue it
is labeled as "deviant"), the power to change is possible - has
anyone ever been told that? ITs a tough road but its possible.
IF the choice is to remain that way - it is a matter between that
person and God.
Society really has no right to infringe on this relationship.

I as a person have a relationship with God. I do a lot of 'deviant'
things - I am aware of what they are. They may not be homosexual, but
they are a lot more deviant than being sincerely homosexual. Of course
as you said - I get away with it socially while you do not. Its sad.

So really, If I am a "compassionate and charitable Christain", its not
because you are "deviant" and I am not.
It because i do realise that heck - I'm just about as "deviant" as any
human being is - I'm working on myself as well becasue i choose to.
But in it all, I'm at peace - not becasue society accepts me, but
becasue I have found an inner peace in my relationship with God,
deviant as I am.

Today it seems so easy to slam the Church, reject the values
expressed, etc. It seems like a torrid mess. I feel like Lord God, how
did your LOVE get so, so distorted???!!!

Dear Chris, I think this response goes beyond the scope of this list.
Since you brought this up and since I value you as a homeopathic
colleage, I thought it OK to post on the list.
I do apologise for being on the "rejected and slammed Church freak"
side of the fence. But I couldn't apologise for talking about the Love
of God. It means everything to me.

From the homeopathic perspective, I totally agree with your post, and
that would the level at which I interact with my (homosexual) patients
and do their case analysis.
With sincere love,
Leela
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