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Soroush Ebrahimi
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homeopathy

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

Soroush is a male name.

Ebrahimi = From 'Ebrahim' or 'Abraham'.
I live in UK.

What I have in mind is that we organise proper supervision for you whilst
you are taking a homoeopathic remedy.

We will give you our selected remedy daily until you develop symptoms. It
should not take too long.

We will need to know where you are to organise volunteer homoeopaths to
supervise the proving.

Thank you for volunteering.

Regards
Soroush


Tanya Marquette
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Re: homeopathy

Post by Tanya Marquette »

dont know who wrote this (no information provided) but thought you would like it
tanya

Homeopathy

Johnson, come in here!
Yes sir?
Look here Johnson, we've genetically engineered most crops, so now we own the seeds. We?ve outlawed vitamins with our Codex trick. We?re driving herb companies out of business with new regulations. We have government regulatory agencies in our pocket. So what?s left?
Well sir, there?s still the homeopathy problem. More people are using it all the time. Eventually it will turn people away from our drugs. What?s more, they have successful homeopathic hospitals in England for the last hundred years, apparently curing people.
Homeopathic hospitals in a major industrialized country? A member of the G8? Not good. Got to get rid of those! What have we been doing Johnson?
Well sir, our propaganda machine has been attacking homeopathy for years, but the people still want it. They believe it?s safe, effective and affordable.
We have to change those beliefs, Johnson. We?ll just do a study showing homeopathy doesn?t work.
But sir, the people believe it works.
Then we?ll bypass the people, go right to the funding source. What is it, the Primary Care Trusts? Yes, undermine it to them. We have some academics on payroll and friends in the media.
But what if we do a study and it proves homeopathy works?
Don?t worry, we?ll rig the study, the same way we rig all our own research. In fact, let?s take some of their own studies and do a fake Meta-analysis. We?ll use their own strengths against them. Hahahha. I learned that one from Karl Rove.
I don?t understand sir. Scores of studies appear to show homeopathy does work?
You obviously didn?t grow up on a farm, Johnson. Cherry picking my boy, cherry picking. There?s a good man, Shank, is that his name?
Shang, sir.
Oh yes. Ring him up. He?ll do a Meta-analysis and make it appear he used a hundred or more studies, but really, cherry pick a handful that don?t give good results. That Ernest fellow can follow up with articles trashing homeopathy. He?s got himself planted as a friend of complementary medicine hahaha! A real wolf in sheep?s clothing.
I think he?s Earnst, sir, not Earnest .
He?s clearly not earnest, eh Johnson? Hahaha!! While he?s at it, maybe he can neutralize the Prince of Wales. The Prince, has been a thorn in our side for years, with his high profile and support of homeopathy. Ernst can write an article, something like, ?It?s not the Prince?s business to talk about medical care?. That should do it.
Oh, and maybe the Lancet can produce a good headline. Something dramatic and final. Let me see?Oh yes, ?THE END OF HOMEOPATHY?..Yes, yes ?....that has a nice ring.
Very creative sir, if I must say so . But sir, the Lancet actually did a meta-analysis some time ago showing homeopathy works.
You?re only good as your last act boy. This will be a NEW study.
Do you think people will believe such a big lie?
The bigger the better Johnson. I learned that from a master.
One year later:
How are we doing with that homeopathy thing Johnson?
Well sir, we really spooked those Primary Care Trusts, got many to stop referrals. But?
But what Johnson? !
Well sir, the people started paying out of pocket. We can?t seem to stop them. Homeopathy is getting bigger all the time, like grass growing between the cracks. I think the tide may not be with you on this. It?s cropping up in other countries too, a real populist movement. And sir, there?s one other thing.
What?s that?
Well, my son struggled with asthma for years. Frightening really, choking in the middle of the night. Got sick from the medicines. Finally, I took him to a homeopath. And he was cured. Really cured. Doesn?t need drugs anymore.
Nonsense Johnson. Probably never had asthma! I want you to start a new campaign now. Do more studies , make people afraid of homeopathy, just like we did with vitamin E. Buy us more professors, get more negative press. What do you think Johnson?
Well sir, I think?I think?.I quit.


Elizabeth Brandegee
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Re: homeopathy

Post by Elizabeth Brandegee »

It's called 'Up through the cracks' by Alan Schmukler - from Hpathy.
Here is the link:
http://www.hpathy.com/ezine/editorial/2008sep.asp

Liz

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "tamarque@..." wrote:
would like it
we own the seeds. We've outlawed vitamins with our Codex trick. We're
driving herb companies out of business with new regulations. We have
government regulatory agencies in our pocket. So what's left?
using it all the time. Eventually it will turn people away from our
drugs. What's more, they have successful homeopathic hospitals in
England for the last hundred years, apparently curing people.
the G8? Not good. Got to get rid of those! What have we been doing
Johnson?
years, but the people still want it. They believe it's safe, effective
and affordable.
showing homeopathy doesn't work.
is it, the Primary Care Trusts? Yes, undermine it to them. We have
some academics on payroll and friends in the media.
research. In fact, let's take some of their own studies and do a fake
Meta-analysis. We'll use their own strengths against them. Hahahha. I
learned that one from Karl Rove.
does work?
boy, cherry picking. There's a good man, Shank, is that his name?
used a hundred or more studies, but really, cherry pick a handful that
don't give good results. That Ernest fellow can follow up with
articles trashing homeopathy. He's got himself planted as a friend of
complementary medicine hahaha! A real wolf in sheep's clothing.
maybe he can neutralize the Prince of Wales. The Prince, has been a
thorn in our side for years, with his high profile and support of
homeopathy. Ernst can write an article, something like, "It's not the
Prince's business to talk about medical care". That should do it.
dramatic and final. Let me see…Oh yes, "THE END OF HOMEOPATHY"..Yes,
yes …....that has a nice ring.
did a meta-analysis some time ago showing homeopathy works.
stop referrals. But…
stop them. Homeopathy is getting bigger all the time, like grass
growing between the cracks. I think the tide may not be with you on
this. It's cropping up in other countries too, a real populist
movement. And sir, there's one other thing.
choking in the middle of the night. Got sick from the medicines.
Finally, I took him to a homeopath. And he was cured. Really cured.
Doesn't need drugs anymore.
new campaign now. Do more studies , make people afraid of homeopathy,
just like we did with vitamin E. Buy us more professors, get more
negative press. What do you think Johnson?


Tanya Marquette
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Re: homeopathy

Post by Tanya Marquette »

thanks for the link. its always good to know the original source.
tanya


sanjay gupta
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Re: homeopathy

Post by sanjay gupta »

respected sir i want to learn about ardawan sahardar method with regards dr sanjay


Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: homeopathy

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

Dear Sanjay
I have forwarded your email to Dr Nader Moradi. He ran a course on this method.
Rgds

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sanjay gupta
Sent: 11 August 2012 08:44
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] homeopathy
respected sir i want to learn about ardawan sahardar method with regards dr sanjay


Roger B
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Re: homeopathy

Post by Roger B »

Homeopathy is suggestive, not coercive. Allopathy is coercive.

In EXACTLY the same way, I want society and government to stop being coercive and become suggestive. Right now government is coercive. The Department of Education lays down rules, and if you don't obey them, they will and have pulled guns on people, but their usual mode of coercion to withhold funds if a school district does not do what they want them to do. A suggestive Department of Education would establish standards to publish those standards. Then parents could see, hey, our district is not below the standard, and the do something about it.

That is my kind of socialism.

Roger


Ellen Madono
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Re: homeopathy

Post by Ellen Madono »

Education is in a terrible state and has been forever. Academic tests have different versions for different levels. DIstricts know where they are and they buy the appropriate test so they can present a front for the voters.


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