At 12:41 PM 7/16/2005, you wrote:
Dear Dr. Leela,
The first mention of the reversal of symptoms is found in the
theoretic part of the Chronic Diseases published in 1828. Hering then
expanded on the subject in 1845 in the preface to the American edition of
the Chronic Diseases. This lead to Kent speaking in terms of "Hering's
Laws". In Hahnemann's rendition, however, he added conditions to the
reversal of symptoms by saying that in suppression, drugging and old
one-sided local affections may not follow the strict reversal of the
timeline. In some cases, an old local affection or one-sided pathology
manifestation my not be removed until the health and vitality are restored
in most other respects. I have been such things several times. Hahnemann
even offers a special method of adjusting the dose to remove these
lingering one sided states.
The symptoms tend to "peel off" in layers that demonstrate the reversal
of the order that they developed. The most recent symptoms leave first and
the oldest symptoms last. In comes cases old suppressed symptoms my return
in the form of a mini crisis that mimics the original disease before
suppression. Old malaria fevers will appear for a short time, old
discharges will come back, an old mental symptoms or a forgotten traumas
may appear. These many not all follow the exact order due to reason's
Hahnemann mentioned but the time flow is in the general direction of
reversal from disease toward health. In this way, many of the original
causes will show themselves. An old suppressed skin or discharge will
reappear and repressed emotions will arise while awake or in a dream. This
is a natural healing crises.
The reason this happens is because it is innate in the human
constitution and temperament. Psychology works the same way as the process
of analysis usually runs in the reverse order until the causal rubrics are
uncovered. If the patient can relive the original experience in a similar
but not identical manner as the original experience their mental and
physical health improves. This is all according to homeopathic law. Most
successful psychology is based on similars will that which is based on
opposites produce repression rather than cure.
I can't comment on an individual cases because I don't know the causes,
symptoms and circumstances involved. I can only say that when the process
of healing moves from within to without, from the more important to lesser
spheres, from a above to below, from the mental to physical plane, and in
the reverse order of symptoms the case is moving in the correct direction.
When the symptoms move from without to within, from the less important to
more important spheres, from below to above, from the physical to the
mental, and new symptoms appear the case is getting worse.
Sincerely, David Little
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Dear David,
Thank you for your detailed explanation. YEs in this particular case
I'd say the situation would be described as you stated here"
"In comes cases old suppressed symptoms my return
in the form of a mini crisis that mimics the original disease before
suppression. Old malaria fevers will appear for a short time, old
discharges will come back, an old mental symptoms or a forgotten
traumas may appear. These many not all follow the exact order due to
reason's Hahnemann mentioned but the time flow is in the general
direction of reversal from disease toward health. In this way, many of
the original causes will show themselves. An old suppressed skin or
discharge will reappear and repressed emotions will arise while awake
or in a dream. Thisis a natural healing crises. "
So in this case of Reiters syndrome in an allopathic MD physician
(joint pains, chest pain, joint swellings, balanitis, urethritis,
etc... along with chronic amoebiasis - that he kept taking antibiotics
for) he has been on Lycopodium for 2 years, doing very well. HE felt
about 95% cured and was off all allopathic support for pain. HE
thought he was finally cured.
Till a suddenly in May, some old symptoms came up that simply wouldn't
respond. (he restarted his painkillers) ON re-working the case, he was
clearly in Sycotic miasm still so Nat Sulph seemed well indicated.
Especially at this point his mental state was concentrated on grief
remembering a disppointed love of about 7 years back.
One dose seems to perform miracles (physically and mentally),
Unfortunately he took it upon himself to repeat a 30C daily.... So I
have no idea what the NAt SUlph did, though the grief passed off.
But it aggravated his physical symptoms into a sharper picture that
suggested Sepia both physcally and mentally. By now he was right in
the middle of this "healing crisis". Despair of recoevery, depressed,
etc. Tihs lasted almost a month - waiting for the slow improvement. My
only explanation to him was to explain about this Healing Crisis.
SInce he is an MD, he knew anyway with allopathy he was doomed - so he
may as well hang on to my hopefulness.
My instinct was to think - after Lyco, Sulphur ... but Sulphur was not
indicated in the totality ..... Finally after Sepia seemed to clear
the picture a little more and some symptoms became more prominent
others improved - YEs as you stated, in the direction of Herings LAw
of Cure, the picture developed into a stark an obvious Sulphur (mind
and physicals)!!!
It happened the day I asked you the question.
HAs it been a week already?! The SUlphur has moved things towards cure
and about 50% improvement in symtpoms already (physically and
mentally). (thank God!)
So if you see this progression - I was surprised at the number of
remedies he had to go through to get here. Of course since he is an MD
, he'd hardly recall how much of suppressive treatment he has
inadvertnatly taken over the last 10 years for various small symptoms,
since his onset of Reiters syndrome.
I continue to wonder whether the Lyco will be indicated again, but
clearly it seems to have completed its action. Sulphur seems to be the
last lap on his journey! What fun to see this miasmatic healing!
Your comments are welcome. thank you!
Leela
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, David Little wrote:
restored
Hahnemann
reversal
first and
return
traumas
dream. This
process
rubrics are
similar
Most
causes,
process
lesser
and in
direction.
important to
Homoeopathy
in any
this
arising out
consequential,
howsoever
no more
Homoeopathic
Thank you for your detailed explanation. YEs in this particular case
I'd say the situation would be described as you stated here"
"In comes cases old suppressed symptoms my return
in the form of a mini crisis that mimics the original disease before
suppression. Old malaria fevers will appear for a short time, old
discharges will come back, an old mental symptoms or a forgotten
traumas may appear. These many not all follow the exact order due to
reason's Hahnemann mentioned but the time flow is in the general
direction of reversal from disease toward health. In this way, many of
the original causes will show themselves. An old suppressed skin or
discharge will reappear and repressed emotions will arise while awake
or in a dream. Thisis a natural healing crises. "
So in this case of Reiters syndrome in an allopathic MD physician
(joint pains, chest pain, joint swellings, balanitis, urethritis,
etc... along with chronic amoebiasis - that he kept taking antibiotics
for) he has been on Lycopodium for 2 years, doing very well. HE felt
about 95% cured and was off all allopathic support for pain. HE
thought he was finally cured.
Till a suddenly in May, some old symptoms came up that simply wouldn't
respond. (he restarted his painkillers) ON re-working the case, he was
clearly in Sycotic miasm still so Nat Sulph seemed well indicated.
Especially at this point his mental state was concentrated on grief
remembering a disppointed love of about 7 years back.
One dose seems to perform miracles (physically and mentally),
Unfortunately he took it upon himself to repeat a 30C daily.... So I
have no idea what the NAt SUlph did, though the grief passed off.
But it aggravated his physical symptoms into a sharper picture that
suggested Sepia both physcally and mentally. By now he was right in
the middle of this "healing crisis". Despair of recoevery, depressed,
etc. Tihs lasted almost a month - waiting for the slow improvement. My
only explanation to him was to explain about this Healing Crisis.
SInce he is an MD, he knew anyway with allopathy he was doomed - so he
may as well hang on to my hopefulness.
My instinct was to think - after Lyco, Sulphur ... but Sulphur was not
indicated in the totality ..... Finally after Sepia seemed to clear
the picture a little more and some symptoms became more prominent
others improved - YEs as you stated, in the direction of Herings LAw
of Cure, the picture developed into a stark an obvious Sulphur (mind
and physicals)!!!
It happened the day I asked you the question.
HAs it been a week already?! The SUlphur has moved things towards cure
and about 50% improvement in symtpoms already (physically and
mentally). (thank God!)
So if you see this progression - I was surprised at the number of
remedies he had to go through to get here. Of course since he is an MD
, he'd hardly recall how much of suppressive treatment he has
inadvertnatly taken over the last 10 years for various small symptoms,
since his onset of Reiters syndrome.
I continue to wonder whether the Lyco will be indicated again, but
clearly it seems to have completed its action. Sulphur seems to be the
last lap on his journey! What fun to see this miasmatic healing!
Your comments are welcome. thank you!
Leela
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, David Little wrote:
restored
Hahnemann
reversal
first and
return
traumas
dream. This
process
rubrics are
similar
Most
causes,
process
lesser
and in
direction.
important to
Homoeopathy
in any
this
arising out
consequential,
howsoever
no more
Homoeopathic
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Re: miasms - PSORA
Dear Ellen,
JAn Sholten's charts are tremendously helpful to have an insight into
the homeoapthic working of various elements and salts.
Yes they (including Scholton) have been working on identifying the
constitutients of plants in order to probably make up a comparitive
materia MEdica of sorts, just as you mentioned below. MAybe that will
give us deeper insight into the whole concept of remedy relathioships!
IF Zincum is indicated, Rhus V may also be indicated at some point ...
SO its good to have these remedy relationships in mind for
prescribing. Finally though one still has to hely on the symptoms
picture predominanting as the main guide to indicate the remedy. When
we pay attention to detail (emotional or physical modalities), the
indicated remedy becomes clearer.
Eg: in chir choice between ZIncum or Rhus V at a particular point of
time, Rhust V would be indicated not just becasue it contains a high
quantity of Zinc, but becasue in its procing picture, it brough up
emotioanl or physical modlaities that indicate it at that point of
time, of couse in relationship to Zinc.
Is that a little convoluted?
HEre is the link to the article I was refering to. MAybe it will have
some answers.
http://www.hpathy.com/philosophy/dsouza_miasm6.asp
THough I'd be working on Schoton, Snakarn, and "central disturbances"
in future articles. I'd appreciate feedback.
thanks!
D.r leela
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of remedies and wondering how one uses that information. I have hear
Vermeulen say that for example Rhus-v contains a lot of zinc, so it
makes sense that when zinc didn't work then he would try Rhus-v. I
would be asking him, how much zinc is a lot since different elements
appear in all plants, and some appear in most etc.
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JAn Sholten's charts are tremendously helpful to have an insight into
the homeoapthic working of various elements and salts.
Yes they (including Scholton) have been working on identifying the
constitutients of plants in order to probably make up a comparitive
materia MEdica of sorts, just as you mentioned below. MAybe that will
give us deeper insight into the whole concept of remedy relathioships!
IF Zincum is indicated, Rhus V may also be indicated at some point ...
SO its good to have these remedy relationships in mind for
prescribing. Finally though one still has to hely on the symptoms
picture predominanting as the main guide to indicate the remedy. When
we pay attention to detail (emotional or physical modalities), the
indicated remedy becomes clearer.
Eg: in chir choice between ZIncum or Rhus V at a particular point of
time, Rhust V would be indicated not just becasue it contains a high
quantity of Zinc, but becasue in its procing picture, it brough up
emotioanl or physical modlaities that indicate it at that point of
time, of couse in relationship to Zinc.
Is that a little convoluted?
HEre is the link to the article I was refering to. MAybe it will have
some answers.
http://www.hpathy.com/philosophy/dsouza_miasm6.asp
THough I'd be working on Schoton, Snakarn, and "central disturbances"
in future articles. I'd appreciate feedback.
thanks!
D.r leela
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of remedies and wondering how one uses that information. I have hear
Vermeulen say that for example Rhus-v contains a lot of zinc, so it
makes sense that when zinc didn't work then he would try Rhus-v. I
would be asking him, how much zinc is a lot since different elements
appear in all plants, and some appear in most etc.
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Dear Dr. Leela,
It is so nice to see your picture on your site. I am almost talking to you.
We need a book called Miasms Expressed as Physiology. Dr. Vijaykar is clearly pushing the science into that direction. I did not realize predictive homeopathy II and III were out. That's very encouraging. I'll read them.
I have been taught to put a lot of effort into identifying the chief complaint. In reality, the patient may say one thing and I try very hard to cover that complaint, but rarely base the case on the chief complaint as the patient describes it. The chief complaint can be only a small aspect of the central disturbance. As Sankaran describes the central disturbance, you don't have to be an MD or to have an extensive medical background to find it. The analytical process for me is more like a combination of analogy and analysis. This physiological and biological background that you and Dr. Vijaykar are bringing to the table is a big help to the imagination.
I have also been getting much help from Mangialavori to develop this trajectory of central disturbance into our images of the remedies. The other day I did an analysis of tarantula where I looked at the physiology and behavior of the animal. I was amazed to see how much the "signature" is related to the proving symptoms. They even suggest symptoms that are not in the proving. These thoughts were based on Mangialavori's work. If the image of the central disturbance does not go all the way into our understanding of remedies, it is all a lot of theoretical talk. I wonder if I could possibly edit down the length of this paper and send it to you to possibly be put in your zine?
Blessings,
Ellen Madono
It is so nice to see your picture on your site. I am almost talking to you.
We need a book called Miasms Expressed as Physiology. Dr. Vijaykar is clearly pushing the science into that direction. I did not realize predictive homeopathy II and III were out. That's very encouraging. I'll read them.
I have been taught to put a lot of effort into identifying the chief complaint. In reality, the patient may say one thing and I try very hard to cover that complaint, but rarely base the case on the chief complaint as the patient describes it. The chief complaint can be only a small aspect of the central disturbance. As Sankaran describes the central disturbance, you don't have to be an MD or to have an extensive medical background to find it. The analytical process for me is more like a combination of analogy and analysis. This physiological and biological background that you and Dr. Vijaykar are bringing to the table is a big help to the imagination.
I have also been getting much help from Mangialavori to develop this trajectory of central disturbance into our images of the remedies. The other day I did an analysis of tarantula where I looked at the physiology and behavior of the animal. I was amazed to see how much the "signature" is related to the proving symptoms. They even suggest symptoms that are not in the proving. These thoughts were based on Mangialavori's work. If the image of the central disturbance does not go all the way into our understanding of remedies, it is all a lot of theoretical talk. I wonder if I could possibly edit down the length of this paper and send it to you to possibly be put in your zine?
Blessings,
Ellen Madono
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point ...
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If Zincum is indicated and if Rhus V is indicated because it has high
zinc then would all the other salts of Zinc also be indicated?
After all they also have a high conc. of Zinc... I simply do not
understand this logic...Rhus V might have high quantity of Zinc but
then it has so many other alkaloids and other substances... yes some
of the characters might be the same but that is it ....I like eating
chicken so I must also like eating crows because both are birds...and
have feathers... have a beak...and two wings...
point ...
been removed]
If Zincum is indicated and if Rhus V is indicated because it has high
zinc then would all the other salts of Zinc also be indicated?
After all they also have a high conc. of Zinc... I simply do not
understand this logic...Rhus V might have high quantity of Zinc but
then it has so many other alkaloids and other substances... yes some
of the characters might be the same but that is it ....I like eating
chicken so I must also like eating crows because both are birds...and
have feathers... have a beak...and two wings...
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As Dr. Leela said, the rest of the case has to match. I don't remember the details, but other symptoms matched too. I, however, have something related to your problem imagining how Jan Sholten expects us to make use of his information on the content of different elements in remedies. What is high or low is relative to what is the general condition for plants, I suppose. He doesn't give us that sort of information and I was mystified by the charts. The above example came from a lecture by Vermeulen on "interviewing a substance."
Please don't fly away. We need you here as a human.
Blessings,
Ellen
Please don't fly away. We need you here as a human.
Blessings,
Ellen
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Dear Ellen,
JAn Scholton is a chemist by (earlier) profession. HEnce these
connections and informations are of interest to him. So whether they
finally filter down into something clinically helpful remains to be seen.
HE has enough of brilliance to see the connection...If it exists.
Leela
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remember the details, but other symptoms matched too. I, however,
have something related to your problem imagining how Jan Sholten
expects us to make use of his information on the content of different
elements in remedies. What is high or low is relative to what is the
general condition for plants, I suppose. He doesn't give us that sort
of information and I was mystified by the charts. The above example
came from a lecture by Vermeulen on "interviewing a substance."
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JAn Scholton is a chemist by (earlier) profession. HEnce these
connections and informations are of interest to him. So whether they
finally filter down into something clinically helpful remains to be seen.
HE has enough of brilliance to see the connection...If it exists.
Leela
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Ellen Madono" wrote:
remember the details, but other symptoms matched too. I, however,
have something related to your problem imagining how Jan Sholten
expects us to make use of his information on the content of different
elements in remedies. What is high or low is relative to what is the
general condition for plants, I suppose. He doesn't give us that sort
of information and I was mystified by the charts. The above example
came from a lecture by Vermeulen on "interviewing a substance."
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