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Dana Ullman, MPH
Posts: 411
Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:00 pm

Re: FDA

Post by Dana Ullman, MPH »

Dear Friends,

Lucy asked if I can provide nosodes to people outside of the US. The
answer is "yes, but." The "but" part is that the pharmacies must then send
the medicines to us in Berkeley first...and then, we send them to you.
Because of this, there is an extra $6.00 shipping charge for the cost to
ship the medicines to us. People in the US can get their nosodes from us
and have them sent directly to them at no additional shipping cost.
Also...to clarify, we can get nosodes, but we cannot get "prescription
remedies" in tincture form (such as Cratageus).

As for the "logic" of why Cratageus "homeopathic" tincture isn't
available and the herbal tincture is available (even though they are exactly
the SAME!) is that any homeopathic product is an OTC drug, while herbal
products are considered "foods." Because OTC drugs must have an INDICATION
for use on it that is of an OTC nature (defined as a self-limited condition
that doesn't require an MD-diagnosis), there are no such indications for
Cratageus.

And finally, it is not as simple just getting lawyers to "fix" this.
Any change would require change in federal laws, and once you open that up,
you risk some politicians changing things for the worse.

Dana Ullman, MPH
Homeopathic Educational Services
2124 Kittredge St.
Berkeley, CA. 94704
(510)649-0294
(800)359-9051 (orders in the US only)
(510)649-1955 (fax)
dullman@igc.org OR mail@homeopathic.com
http://www.homeopathic.com
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Soroush Ebrahimi
Moderator
Posts: 4510
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2002 11:00 pm

Re: FDA

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

FDA is a majorly discredited organisation on many front.

However, those outside of US can buy these remedies from UK

Try Helios. www.helios.co.uk or www.ainsworths.com

Rgds
Soroush


Tom Cotter
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:16 pm

Re: FDA

Post by Tom Cotter »

Hi Shannon,

I've been using Crataegus for patients with CHF and hypertension for over 20 years. I prefer the higher potencies (30 to 500) as a rule, but have found that there's some time needed before there are clinical indications of success with the remedy. I did a lot of study and am interested in molecular nutrition, and yet I've found that some Russian scientists, formerly with the KGB, have done a lot of work for us, so that we now know that the genome contains more than DNA influencing RNA influencing proteins. They found that it was three layered with the DNA to RNA to proteins as the lowest and most difficult to change dimension. As you may know, we often use protomorphogens (PMGs) to provide mineral skeletons to show the way the tissues in glands and organs should be rebuilt to overcome chronic defects. Of course, in homeopathy, we often use energetic sarcodes to accomplish this. The Russians found that the second layer, more subtle than the DNA consists of information that could be described as holographically inscribed on the genome. This appears to be where we can provide healing through our homeopathic remedies. Finally, they found a very subtle layer that was influenced by thought, and may be the means by which we can accomplish healings by positive thoughts and prayers. Were this just theory, I suspect we'd all just say, "What a nice idea," and wait for the book or movie to come out. But they're using this technology to re-grow limbs on dogs and cats (humans only three years away, they think) and have already done wonders with rapid skin growth and even pancreas regeneration in humans. (Forgive me, as I tend to digress as I get older).

My point being that though I am a classically trained homeopath with over 25 years experience, I still envy the allopaths their specifics and look for them in our armory whenever I can. Frequently, I find that patients exhibiting combination heart and hypertension symptoms can be assuaged and comforted with either Spigelia anthelmia or Naja tripudians. Usually start checking them with potencies of around 30 in each and go up or down depending upon their responses. Then so many of our cardiac remedies become likely second and third prescriptions. Cactus grand. comes up more often than Caateus, for example but either (among many others such as Digitalis pur.) can over time restore the patient to good health without the daily dosing of allopathic hypertension meds. And while about confessing to my weakness for specifics, I get a lot of patients in who've been allopathically diagnosed, and I find it easier to confirm the diagnosis sometimes rather than start from scratch (if I choose to bother) and then we have a goodly symptom grouping started.

For patients severely ill with liver illness, as a further example, I tend to say, "Lycopodium or Carduus M.?" Usually a good intercurrent is Chelidoninum (probably our most mispronounced remedy). I realize that such practice deviates from the goal of classical prescribing. But to me, the most important of Dr. Hahnemann's pronouncements was that the sole duty of the physician is to get the patient healed. If I were as smart as Hahnemann or Hering or Kent, then I could probably hit on a single dose of a simple remedy and add enough tincture of time and be very proud of myself. I'm not that smart, but I think I want to get my patients as well as any other doctor, so I find these aberrations acceptable to me and to my patients.

Well, as my old cowboy partner (and best man at my wedding) used to say, "I asked you what time it is and you told me how to build a clock!"

Best wishes,

Tom


H.T. Cotter
Posts: 53
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:18 pm

Re: FDA

Post by H.T. Cotter »

My Friends,

Some years ago I was the chairman pro-tem of a new biotech company. We had the winner of the Humberg prize (more prestigious than the Nobel prize) and one of the top neurologist/neurosurgeons in the world. We were meeting at Loma Linda near Redlands, California, so one of my colleagues, the late, great Dr. Thomas Lile and I (Tom passed away on father's day, just past) were there for the evening and for a board meeting and observation of some neurosurgery the next day. One of the deans of that fine university is a jerk who's on the quack busters roster. I didn't realize it at the time. Well, the schools Seventh Day Adventist, so they scorn drinking people, and the only way we could abide some of these people was to load up on some Scotch and Vodka. Anyway, the next day, Dr. Silayi introduced us to the dean who asked how I liked the local community. I told him I'd fallen in with bad company (which I'd taken a long time to find), got drunk, and for a few hours was good looking, could sing and dance, was out of debt and could borrow money.

He told me rather pedantically that drinking solved no problems and I said that I'd amen to that. "But," I told him, "I'm a homeopath, so I have some high potency Nux vomica, and in a few minutes, I'll be right as rain." This jerk was Jarvis and I expect he's still mad at his star and his star earner for letting a rebrobate homeopath set foot on the campus, much less gown up for surgery. Frankly, I think the whole bunch of quack busters are totally lame and always have been.

And, as an aside to friend Dana... yeah, I know lawyers and bureaucrats don't make the laws, but realize that most congressmen and senators are lawyers, and I still want to hunt them! I think that a re-examination of the federal laws in light of all the Patients bill of right laws in the various states should bode well for a resurgence for Homeopathy and other alternative healers.

To all my friends, who're keepers of the Hahnemann/Hering lamp, kindly tilt one for my dear old friend Dr. Thomas Lile. The world is a lonely place now with him gone from it.

Tom


Fran Sheffield
Posts: 676
Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:00 pm

Re: FDA

Post by Fran Sheffield »

Hi Tom,

This is very interesting. Where would I go to find more about this?

Friday, July 1, 2005, 4:17:22 AM, you wrote:

I did a lot
TC> of study and am interested in molecular nutrition, and yet I've
TC> found that some Russian scientists, formerly with the KGB, have
TC> done a lot of work for us, so that we now know that the genome
TC> contains more than DNA influencing RNA influencing proteins. They
TC> found that it was three layered with the DNA to RNA to proteins as
TC> the lowest and most difficult to change dimension. As you may
TC> know, we often use protomorphogens (PMGs) to provide mineral
TC> skeletons to show the way the tissues in glands and organs should
TC> be rebuilt to overcome chronic defects. Of course, in homeopathy,
TC> we often use energetic sarcodes to accomplish this. The Russians
TC> found that the second layer, more subtle than the DNA consists of
TC> information that could be described as holographically inscribed
TC> on the genome. This appears to be where we can provide healing
TC> through our homeopathic remedies. Finally, they found a very
TC> subtle layer that was influenced by thought, and may be the means
TC> by which we can accomplish healings by positive thoughts and
TC> prayers. Were this just theory, I suspect we'd all just say, "What
TC> a nice idea," and wait for the book or movie to come out. But
TC> they're using this technology to re-grow limbs on dogs and cats
TC> (humans only three years away, they think) and have already done
TC> wonders with rapid skin growth and even pancreas regeneration in
TC> humans. (Forgive me, as I tend to digress as I get older).
Best regards,
Fran mailto:FranSheffield@homeopathyplus.com.au


H.T. Cotter
Posts: 53
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:18 pm

Re: FDA

Post by H.T. Cotter »

Hi Fran,

Dr. Oleg Yasko, who has a busy alternative practice in NYC is working with these folks. they're using my 501c(3) to raise some grant funds and asked me to go on their board. They've been shooting a movie about alternative systems with Dr. Yasko (an old pupil of mine) and I were supposed to be there for inclusion the end of June. I didn't make it so I might now be off their A list. We'll see. Dr. Yasko did do the filming and interviews, so I'll know more when I go there later this month. I don't know of any website where this is being discussed, but it is my intention to write about it as I learn more. I will save your email and respond again when that happens. It could be a huge boon to the war injured. I am equally interested in their present ability to regenerate pancreas in humans, which should be a huge boon to type I diabetics.

Best wishes,

Tom (Dr. H. Thomas Cotter)


Elizabeth Byszeski
Posts: 4
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:21 pm

Re: FDA

Post by Elizabeth Byszeski »

I received this from someone, is it correct? Why would they keep doing this process over?
Elizabeth Byszeski
FDA ON HOMEOPATHIC PRODUCT REGULATION
The FDA is considering regulating homeopathic products and has announced a public hearing to obtain information and comments about the current use of human drug and biological products labeled as homeopathic. The products include prescription drugs and biological products labeled as homeopathic and over-the counter (OTC) drugs labeled as homeopathic. The FDA issued a second extension of the 60 day comment period to November 9, 2015.

As a matter of background, the FDA is evaluating its current enforcement policies for drug products labeled as homeopathic from scientific, risk and process perspectives. The FDA was soliciting opinions about whether and how to adjust the current enforcement policies to reflect changes in the homeopathic product marketplace over the last 25 years.

One of the main issues is if these products should be regulated by the FDA the same way as
pharmaceutical products. At this point, the FDA continues to gather information and has not made a decision on whether to change their regulatory approach.

It is important to keep on top of this legislation and continue to monitor and provide
updates after the comment period is closed.


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