Cause of PSORA ??

[Piet Guijt]

I wrote:

David:
You say that psora, sycosis and syphilis are symbols for three innate fixed
patterns of illness. This is your theory. Hahnemann psora's originates in
the itch disease and suppression. That is what it says in the Chronic
Diseases (1828). This hypothesis has been proven in the clinic by medical
histories and the reversal of symptoms.

Dear David:

I believe the disease psora is not only caused by certain micro-organism
and suppression but also by environment and constitutional factors.
The part Hahnemann states that everyone gets psora, and it has a dynamic
influence immediate after contact etc. is in my opinion a weak part in his
theory. He wanted to bring everything down to one cause.
Hahnemann tried to combine two theories of his time to one (miasmatism and
cantagionism ).
But I'm convinced you already know this, and it doesn't matter because it
has no implications for the practical side in treatment.

What I said about: "Every individual is basically tri-miasmatic, 'psoric',
'sycotic' or 'syphilitic' this indicates nothing more than a certain
tendency of the vital force"
This not my theory. I came to this with the help of: Paschero, Candegabe,
Whitmont, and van der Zee.
It is not a theory at all, but an objective fact.
Not only are "psora, sycosis and syphilis are symbols for three innate fixed
patterns of illness", but also patterns in health.
This tri-miasmatic analogy of life we see also in the human cells.
(P.Vijayakar) .

Any living thing in this world has to degenerate and it does so in a
particular way this is taught to us in school also it is taught that there
are 3 basic functions of any cell :
1. Homeostasis .
2. Growth .
3. Defence .

Organisation: deficiency: when disturbed ---> Psora
Generation : excess : When disturbed ----- > Sycosis .
Defence: destruction: when disturbed -----> Syphilis .
Yes it is very interesting.

Kind regard,
Piet Guijt

[David Little]

At 12:36 PM 11/25/2001 +0100, you wrote:
Dear Piet,

Hahnemann did not bring it down to one cause. He had three categories
of causation, i.e. the exciting, maintaining, and fundamental. He also had
acute, half-acute and chronic miasms. He explained that these were all
contagious diseases and gives examples that relate exactly to what modern
medicine teaches. At least homoeopaths should give Hahnemann credit for
being the founder of modern epidemiology. Allopathic historians do not.
Hahnemann told Hering that he divided psora into psora and pseudopsora just
as he earlier divided VD into sycosis and syphilis. This is recorded in
Hering's introduction to the Hempel's edition of the Organon. This is a
historical fact. Most homoeopaths think Allen introduced pseudopsora as a
mixed miasm. This is not the case. Pseudopsora was Hahnemann's term for the
TB miasm. In Paris (1835-1843) he treated much TB as it was just becoming
epidemic.
The above is not Hahnemann's definition of miasms but it does reflect
certain universal truths. The word, miasm, means a fault, pollution or
taint, which is basically negative. The innate triune principle was called
the "three pneumatic forces" in the ancient Greek tradition. They are the
natural force, which is made up of earth and water. The vital force, which
is made up of air and fire. The psychic force, which is made up of ether.
Hahnemann got the terms psora and miasms from the ancient Greeks and
brought them into homoeopathy. They have been terms for certain disease
states for 2, 500 years. Outer phenomena, human beings and disease states
can be categorized by the 3 forces and five homoeomeries. This is true in
the Pythagorean school as well as the India's Aryur Veda and Yoga.

The positive, negative and neutral forces as seen in protons, electrons
and neutrons are not a pollution or taint and were never called miasms.
They are a manifestation of the three pneumatic forces. The three forces
are innate to all phenomena as part of the five elemental homoeomeries. The
principles of 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 are inherent in all manifestation. This
includes non miasmatic and miasmatic diseases. The number 1 is the
universal pneuma; 2 is the forces attraction and aversion; 3 is the three
forces; four is the four humors; and five is the five elements. All of
nature is made from them. That is what homoeomeries means, i.e. the
similars of which everything is composed.

Hahnemann based homoeopathy on the works of the Hippocrates. This
includes the doctrine of similars. I bring such material up to date rather
than change the essential meanings of words already found in the
dictionary. I use the archetypal homoeomeries because they are defined as
the underlying fundamental principles that make up all
phenomena. Hippocrates used the homoeomeries for the universal archetypal
forces and he introduced the word miasms to stand for certain polluted
disease states. These are the original meanings the words, homoeomeries and
miasms, based on their derivations. They have been in medicine since at
least 500 B. C..

I prefer not to mix terms or change meanings unnecessarily. What I am
saying is in harmony with medical history, the ancient Greek tradition, the
Chronic Diseases, and the modern dictionary. The three forces and the five
homoeomeries are the underlying alchemical forces rather than the miasms
that are a polluted by-product. Hahnemann got the terms similars, vital
force, constitution, temperament, organism, tuning, mistuning, psora and
miasm from the ancient Greeks and brought it up to date for his times. That
is what I am trying to do in mine. I see no reason to rewrite history or
the dictionary in the process. I do, however, understand the need to find
such truths but I believe the ancients already did a much better job. It is
a matter of rediscovering our roots.

Sincerely, David

PS, Where does Whitmont say the miasms are the primordial three forces?
Give the quote reference or quote.
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medicines."

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[Piet Guijt]

Dear David,
I was only talking of his explanation of psora.
I do.

The word, miasm, means a fault, pollution or
taint, which is basically negative.

Yes, I know but I'm trying to show also an other aspect.
Yes OK, but I hope you understand that to continue the discussion this way
is impossible.
Psyche and substance: I have to translate from dutch:
"We can see the miasm as structural or archetypal force fields of energy.
They are destructive to life activity, but must somehow be integral factors
of the human constitution which reinforce life and consciousness."
(last page on last chapter 'the chronic miasm'.)

Kind regards,

Piet Guijt

[Wendy Howard]

> >PS, Where does Whitmont say the miasms are the primordial three forces?
factors

The original version (from 1st edition - don't know if it was changed in the
2nd):

"What are miasms, really? In view of their analogy to the effects of the
potentized drug and their capacity to be engrafted (note also that the
remedy effect can be engrafted as well upon non-living substance, such as
glass, cork, and sugar granules), we might consider them structural or
archetypal fields of force, vortices of energy. They are capable of
destructuring living activity but must in one way or another also be
integral life and consciousness enhancing factors of the human
constitution."

Regards
Wendy

[Piet Guijt]

Wendy

Thanks for this,
the result of the translation of a translation was not real bad.

regards, Piet Guijt

[David Little]

At 08:34 PM 11/26/2001 +0100, you wrote:

Psora is an ancient name for a variety of skin diseases which was brought
into homoeopathy by Hahnemann for the itch disease. I take Hahnemann's
definition first and then integrate what medical history and progressive
thought have to offer.
I believe that Hahnemann's Chronic Diseases (1828) was a early review
of the affects of infection on the immune system and vital forces of the
human organism. He once called the miasms "miasmatic animalcule" showing
that they were microorganisms. This study is a precursor to the modern
concepts of idiosyncratic reactions, auto-immune diseases and
immuno-deficiency disorders but with a much broader prospective as to the
potential signs, symptoms and disease states. There is little doubt that
some of the hardest to treat diseases are idiosyncratic reactions,
auto-immune disorders and immuno-deficiency syndromes. This material has
important clinical ramifications when brought up to date. These areas
should be brought into balance with the more spiritual views of the miasms.
That is all I am saying. For some, the miasms are so "spiritual" that they
have little connection with Hahnemann original study.
I am not telling YOU what to say? It says, "I prefer". You can "prefer"
whatever you like and say whatever you want. I will do the same. Miasms are
a reflection of the primordial homoeomeries on their level, which is a
pollution or fault. It is the same with all diseases. I don't make ALL long
term diseases "chronic miasms". If a disease is psychosomatic I call it
that. If it is traumatic I call it that. If the signs and symptoms seem to
carry the group characteristics of the chronic miasms, or I can trace the
history of infection, I called it miasmatic. I use a version of
Boenninghausen's seven levels of causation. That's my approach.
The miasms carry archetypal disease forces which Whitmont says are
"destructive to life activity". The Syphilitic genius/madness is very
archetypal. And yes, the overcoming of chronic miasms strengthens the
constitution and temperament. Dying weakens them. This statement does not
make protons, neutrons and electrons, "tri-miasmatic". The three pneumatic
forces (+/0/-) are precursors to the diseases (and miasms), which represent
distorted energy forms. I have integrated what you are speaking of in a
different manner based on European medical history, Hahnemann's writings,
and modern medicine. Our view of life is similar but our terminology and
clinical approach is slightly different. I just don't make everything a
"miasm". That all. What else is there to say?

Sincerely, David
---------------
"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more
medicines."

Samuel Hahnemann

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Academy at
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[Piet Guijt]

David wrote:
the miasms.

Dear David,

Yes I agree, I don't exclude the micro-organism and their effects at all,
but trying to 'walk' the middle path.

psychosomatic I call it

Neither do I make ALL long term diseases "chronic miasms"., I know their are
non-miasmatic diseases, such as diseases from bad hygienic conditions of
living, your examples etc.
And Yes, 'miasmatic' in case of the group characteristics or history.

Whitmont (thanks to Wendy):
The original version (from 1st edition - don't know if it was changed in the
2nd):

"What are miasms, really? In view of their analogy to the effects of the
potentized drug and their capacity to be engrafted (note also that the
remedy effect can be engrafted as well upon non-living substance, such as
glass, cork, and sugar granules), we might consider them structural or
archetypal fields of force, vortices of energy. They are capable of
destructuring living activity but must in one way or another also be
integral life and consciousness enhancing factors of the human
constitution."
Yes exactly, 'genius' is a part of the Syphilis miasm, just as the 'madness'
is.
But in our books on the subject, we find almost only the negative aspects
mentioned.
(for example: Indications of Miasm, H.Cloudhury/ Miasmatic Diagnosis,
S.K.Banerjea).
But there are also qualities (H. van der Zee , Miasm in labour):
Psora: curiosity, initiative, expectation, knowledge.
Sycosis: honesty, modesty, endurance, empathy, adaptation, tolerance,
friendship, forgiveness.
Syphilis: creativity, courage, altruism, responsibility, love, service.

Also looking to those aspects, will broaden our vision and understanding.
I'm only trying to contribute to what you also want:
"These areas should be brought into balance with the more spiritual views of
the miasms."

Kind regards,

Piet Guijt

[Phosphor]

Piet said....

interesting...are u saying here that the negative qualities [eg madness in
syphilis] are more or less the good qualities [eg genius] gone astray?
have u seen such fundamental switches after givign the miasmatic remedy? I
mean not just restoration of health, but a manifestation of super-healthy
[maybe we can say 'spiritually evolved'] mental characteristics?

Andrew

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Did Van Goff become a fine painter before or after he got Syph?

Soroush

[David Little]

Hello,

I will tell you how I see the situation. The genius of syphilis is
usually an unbalanced genius not a truly healthy one. The grand ideas and
inspiration of psora is usually not in harmony with reality. Sycosis may be
brutally honest to the point of hurting others. There are, however, people
who react to a disease situation as a test of the soul. They do not
surrender to the miasmic negativity but unconsciously compensate with the
opposite positive qualities. These is not the symptoms of the miasms per
say, but rather, compensations of the Unconscious. These reactions are a
balancing process produced by the autonomic dynamism. They are not,
however, completely natural positive qualities as seen in the state of true
health. They often have a contrived element, an overbearing presence, or
unnaturalness about them. They are not the same things as a perfectly
spontaneous healthy state. i.e. one which is no longer miasmatic. I have
seen such compensations to the miasms many times and I wrote about this
phenomena.

For example, I presented a case where the patient had the teeth, face,
and bony structure of syphilis. She grew up in a family with alcoholism as
well as physical and sexual abuse and she was suffering from a vaginal
discharge and ovarian pains. She had all the classic symptoms of the
inherited syphilitic miasm. She felt so tainted by the negativity of her
family that she reacted by acting very pure. She felt so dirty
subconsciously that she kept herself spotlessly clean. She felt that what
happened to her was so amoral that she acted extremely ethical and
spiritual. These were compensations not a spontaneous state of health. You
could say that the syphilitic miasm made her more "spiritual, clean and
pure" but it was not a perfectly natural or a true state of health. To most
people these looked like her positive qualities. I considered them
compensations to her miasmatic disease state and prescribed on them.

Her symptoms of compulsive cleanliness and purity (out damn spot!) lead
me to Syphilinum. I gave her the nosode in 1M potency and she developed a
painless ulcer on her sexual parts! This was a clinical confirmation of the
diagnosis. Although the syphilitic miasm was inherited she developed a
surrogate chancre of the infection in her ancestors. After this her mental
and physical state went through a great change. She no longer felt so
tainted that she had to act so pure. She no longer felt so dirty that she
had to be the "cleanest person". She no longer feel so amoral she had to
act so spiritual all the time. Her discharge and ovarian pains stopped. She
became more naturally spontaneous and the true qualities of her soul shined
through without negative or positive distortions. Her daughter born after I
gave the remedy showed no signs of the syphilitic miasm in her body or
mind. The miasm had been removed from the generations.

The miasm symptoms and the compensations of the unconsciousness
energetic forces often produce opposite states. This also may manifest as a
bipolar state where the negative states and positive compensations
alternate. I do not think that the pseudo-positive qualities produced by
compensations are the same things as a true spontaneous state of health.
Granted that they are more healthy than the negative qualities which they
compensate but they are not without distortions. They are a coping
mechanism. The state of true health is not a positive compensation for
negative influences. Nevertheless, disease sometimes strengthens the
character and can contribute to evolution in the spiritual sense. Sometimes
it seems to almost destroy the soul. This is how I see this
negative-positive phenomena in the clinic. I have many more similar case
histories. So in this way, our views are similar but not the same. The true
undistorted individual does not appear until the miasm is gone and the
spontaneous state of health is reinstated. .

Sincerely, David
---------------
"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more
medicines."

Samuel Hahnemann

Visit our website on Hahnemannian Homoeopathy and Cyberspace Homoeopathic
Academy at
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David Little © 2000