Measurements in the Organon 2

[David Little]

At 10:20 AM 3/7/2005, you wrote:
Dear Gaby,

I don't remember you passing on this information but...???
There are fluid ounces and weight ounces. Fluid is by volume and weight is
by heaviness. The SI measurement conversion table is based on distilled
water. In modern SI measurement:

Can anyone confirm if these are the correct modern SI measurements:

1 cubic centimeter (cc) = 1 ML = 1gram

1. Fluid ounce is 30ML = 30 grams = 600 grains
2. Tablespoons is 15ML (1/2 fluid ounce) =15 grams = 300 grains
3. 1 teaspoon is 5ML = 5 grams = 100 grains
4. 1 coffeespoon is 2.5 ML. = 2.5 grams = 50 grains
5. 1 drop is 0.05 ML = 1 grain
6. 20 grains = 1gram =1ML
7. 0. 05ML to a drop makes 100 drops to a teaspoon.

Normally, 3 teaspoons make a tablespoon. This is universal. According to
what you have written above:

1. tablespoon is 1/2 ounce = 240 grains.
2. teaspoon = 30 grains.

The 30 grains (teaspoon) to 240 grain (tablespoon) is a completely
different ratio than 1 to 1/3 associated with a tablespoon and teaspoon?
What you have written is that a teaspoon is 1/8 of a tablespoon. Shouldn't
a teaspoon be 80 grains?
Yes, 0.062g = O.062ML x 240 = 14.88, which is almost 14.9ML. This is
almost the same as the modern SI measurements which is 15ML = 1/2 ounce =
15 grams = 300 grains.

It looks like the modern SI measurements simply averaged out the old
European system to the nearest round figure. In the old German measurements
the grain is slightly bigger but they used less of them to make a tablespoon.
Other than the teaspoon to tablespoon ratio I understand.

Sincerely, David Little

[maly suissa]

Dear David,
David Little wrote:

Can anyone confirm if these are the correct modern SI measurements:
*** Only about the first item:
1 cubic centimeter (cc) = 1 ML = 1gram
1 cubic centimeter (cc) and 1 ml are one and the same, since both are volume measures. Now, about the weight of this quantity:

By definition, 1 ml distilled water weighs 1 gram at standard temperature and pressure conditions.

If you dissolve anything in the water [e.g. alcohol or any other electrolyte], or use non-distilled water [which is the same] - you get a chemical solution - and this has a different weight per cc, which depends on its concentration and other variables such as temperature and pressure.
Best regards

Maly
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[Gaby Rottler]

Dear David,

The Unzen mentioned above are of course what was used in those ancient
times (and these differed even then depending of country etc.)
Therefore I think the Gran is the best way to calculate, as this is the
smallest unity.

I wondered about that, too, I admit, as I'm also used to seeing a tsp as
about 4-5 ml.
But he explicitely writes:

- einen Theelöffel (cochl. pro thea) ein halbes Quentchen
(1 tsp.= 1/2 Quentchen).

1 Quentchen defined as having 3 Skrupel,
1 Skrupel defined as having 20 Gran.

So 1 Quentchen = 60 Gran.
1/2 Quentchen would be 30 Gran.

According to Hahnemann's Apothekerlexikon.

In ml this would be 1,86 ml.

So I went, filled a syringe with 1,8ml of water. took out one of my
normal tea-spoon, gave the water onto the tea-spoon:
yes, the normal tea-spoon gets filled with this quantity. There is still
a little bit of space left, but just the normal one, necessary not to
spill it when taking it to the mouth.
Best,

Gaby

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Gaby Rottler
Germany
rottler@curantur.de

http://www.curantur.de
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[David Little]

At 12:58 AM 3/10/2005, you wrote:
Dear Maly,

Thank you for answering my post. As to: 1 cubic centimeter (cc) = 1 ML
= 1gram. Yes, this is for distilled water under standard stable conditions.
I presume that the others are correct then?

Sincerely, David Little

[maly suissa]

David Little wrote:
At 12:58 AM 3/10/2005, you wrote:
{{{ Sorry, that should read: Only about ... I have any idea . I know only the metric system of measurement and whenever seeing ounces etc. I need a conversion table - let alone when it becomes complicated with old vs. new systems of measurement.

Especially I don't have any clue as to grans/grains or whatever it is [weight?/volume?/?]

Those things will need somebody else's help.

Best regards

Maly

...I presume that the others are correct then?

Sincerely, David Little
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