Request for HELP! with potency in a case

[Irene Müller]

Dear Charlotte!
What about just smelling at the opened bottle?
Don´t know, where this idea came from in the beginning, but I´ve heard it several times.
If this is still too much, you might try: touch the closed bottle or only look at it or even just think of the remedy.
(In Berlin there´s a group of homeopaths who do provings of remedies just by calling the "spirit of the remedy". This works with sensitive people.)

Irene

[Rosemary Hyde]

I also have an extremely sensitive patient, who has ended up smelling the
remedy. At first even that overwhelmed him, until several people suggested
shortening the inhalation time and holding the bottle further away. He also
waits until the effects of each inhalation start wearing off before
repeating the process, and this is usually two or three times longer than
with most people. However, the case has been progressing very well using
this method, so obviously it works. For this patient, holding the bottle
for more than a couple of seconds produced overwhelming aggravations, and
the very short inhalation at a distance has been the method he could
tolerate successfully.

Rosemary C. Hyde

[Sheila Parks]

i myself had to smell a remedy for a while. and for very short,teeny
smells. barely a whiff. and it worked. this was an lm remedy i was smelling.
intersting to me, a year later or even more, i was able to take the remedy -
again in lm potency - and not have any aggravations. luc de schepper also
taught to put the remedy - in water - on the person's lips. when my mother
was dying i did that, pellet dissolved in water , and it worked. as a her
dying went on, i could not do even the lips because she could not swallow
anything and i was afraid a drop might be swallowed and i was told to put
some of the remedy, again in water, on her cheeks. this also worked very
well. sheila

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[Dr. R. Swift]

Charlotte,

I am new to Minutus so let me introduce myself. My name is Russell Swift and
I am a veterinarian and classical homeopath practicing in Florida, USA. I am
the US representative for the Predictive School of Homeopathy im Mumbai,
India.

In response to your question on the Apis case, I think the apis is
suppressive. The case is one affecting deep tissues i.e. nervous system
(vertigo) which I believe is deeper than the irritability (emotional
concomitant). As such, the vertigo should disappear early with an
intesification of more superficial symptoms as per Hering's Law. If the
remedy is curing, the more superficial symptoms should return first and
gradually. It seems her symptoms are returning too soon, too severely and
too deeply to be the similimum.

With the symptoms going right to the nervous system and her sensitivity to
remedies, I think of a "hysterical" constitution.

I know this is not the type of response to your question you were seeking,
but perhaps you will find it helpful.

be well

russell swift, dvm

[Piet Guijt]

Hello all,

I had the same experience with the smelling method.
The method comes from Hahnemann (Organon §248).
There a funny anecdote about this:
Hahnemann treated a patient with the smelling method, and after the
consultation he charged some money.
The patient took his money out his purse, held it under Hahnemann's nose,
let him smell it and.. walked out the door!
A good lesson for us.
Its amazing how this method can work, I used it with bottles filled with C
or LM fluid. Sometimes the bottle had to be held 1 Meter from the nose, and
the inhalation had to be very slight (barely noticeable).
Smelling at a globule seem to be not that sensitive, I think it is the
alcohol in the solution what gives the quick 'transport' of the remedy. So
maybe the reduction of the dose can be archived by reducing the amount of
alcohol in the solution?
I've also experience with holding tubes with globules of the remedy pressed
against the stomach for a few seconds.
I came to this by coincidence, after a 'iris session' to find the best
suited potency. I saw the skin became smoother and the look in the eyes was
better. I decided than to wait, and the remedy acted.
I have the idea that holding different potencies at the stomach this way,
will give the vital force the chance to pick up the most optimal potency,
because it is more sensitive to the most suited potency.
Because this potency is stronger, it will take over the effect by the
previous less optimal potency.
(that's my theory).

Organon §26:
"This depends on the following homoeopathic law of nature which was
sometimes, indeed, vaguely surmised but not hitherto fully recognised, and
to which is due every real cure that has ever taken place:
A weaker dynamic affection is permanently extinguished in the living
organism by a stronger one, if the latter (whilst differing in kind) is very
similar to the former in its manifestations."

Although I'm still experimenting with this I've not seen a homeopathic
aggravation yet, only a to strong reaction due to soon repetition.
About only thinking about a remedy, I don't think this a usable method
because this brings the remedy not in real contact with the patient.
When someone has the same or similar experience, let me know.
I still think this all is a bit fuzzy, but it is also very interesting.

Kind regards, Piet

[Dave Hartley]

Hahnemann & Boenninghausen both used "olfaction."

It sounds like Charlotte's case is very near correct posology.
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[Dave Hartley]

I've been using this and similar methods of potency selection (also assists
in remedy selection when two remedies both seem well indicated.) --as taught
by David Little, who ties the practice of the methods in with Hahnemann's
Organon aphorisms related to dynamism, also giving us historical basis from
the last 80yrs for these methods & direct research relationship with
homeopathy; also giving benefit of his personal observations of 25yrs in
practice with these methods.

My experience has been such that I've never seen a severe aggravation in any
client after having tested with these methods.

You'll find on David's website in "the Little Online Library" some
discussion of method & background:

www.simillimum.com/Thelittlelibrary.html

See "ART" in the section "Impoderabilia & Dynamics"
http://www.simillimum.com/Thelittlelibr ... s/ART.html
and
http://www.simillimum.com/Thelittlelibr ... amics.html
regards,

Dave Hartley
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[Soroush Ebrahimi]

I think Smelling the remedy is in the Organon - right towards the end
Soroush

[Ruby]

My sister in law uses remedies a lot as sprays in a little 1 or 2 oz bottle, topically on the body, and sometimes as an aura spray. She says se sees profound results.
Jennifer

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Jennifer Ruby

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[Dave Hartley]

Yes, Olfaction is discussed (also absorption by skin) in Aphorisms 284-285.
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