Pregnancy nausea and vomiting

[Rochelle Marsden]

I have a patient about 8 weeks pregnant - constitutionally Sepia - who has nausea and vomiting. We tried a Sepia 200 a couple of weeks ago and she felt a little better and then went and took another one hoping it would make her completely better and that was it she got worse again. We haven't managed to stop it yet!! we tried Colch 30 because she is < smells of any kind. She was hospitalised last week for a couple of days (didn't phone me ) as she had blood in her urine and given antibiotics and put on a drip to rehydrate her. Yesterday we tried 3 doses of Cocc-30 no change so today I have asked her to try Ipec -30 and I am going to order Symphoricarpus. She is still cutting down on the Seroxat and is now on 10mg one day and 5mg the next. She doesn't think she needs it anymore but one of the reasons she originally came to see me was depression - wanting to conceive and having withdrawal symptoms cutting down on this drug. She was on 20 mg daily when she first saw me.

Anyone any other suggestions. We have tried the ginger, small meals etc. She can only keep food down in the evening.

Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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[matthiaswaeger]

Hi Rochelle,

I dont know if the following is of any help to you. My wife is currently pregnant and had been suffering from nausea quite badly (although fortunately no vomiting). various homeopathic remedies did relieve on some occasions and aggravate on others. What we have learned in the meantime is that - apparently - nausea in pregnancy is triggered by low blood sugar levels. So what we are doing now with quite some success is freshly squeezed vegetable juices or a light meal, whenever the sickness starts (in other words, we just take it as a sign for hunger) plus foot massages of the reflexology points of stomach and intestins. Not much homeopathy, I am afraid, but it does the trick within a few minutes and is maybe something you want to share with your patient.

kind regards,
Matthias

[Venkat]

Rochelle,
Imo she is still in sepia domain. Think of 1m or
change to a different scale like LM.

The smells agg is also sepia.

Only if she doesn't respond, then think of Bry and
others. Do you have accoucher's manual by Yingling ?
There ought to be many useful hints.
Reg
Venkat
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[Chris Wilkinson]

Also, you can try umeboshi plums, or sucking on an umeboshi plum stone.

Patient I had a few days ago with debilitating nausea going on into 4
1/2 months I treated with Follic (200 single dose) mainly for her
general state, but the nausea completely went after a day. Maybe worth
looking at if there is any general indication for Follic? Or even
looking away from the acutes to a more general or even chronic
prescription.

Good luck! Chris

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currently pregnant and had been suffering from nausea quite badly
(although fortunately no vomiting). various homeopathic remedies did
relieve on some occasions and aggravate on others. What we have
learned in the meantime is that - apparently - nausea in pregnancy is
triggered by low blood sugar levels. So what we are doing now with
quite some success is freshly squeezed vegetable juices or a light
meal, whenever the sickness starts (in other words, we just take it as
a sign for hunger) plus foot massages of the reflexology points of
stomach and intestins. Not much homeopathy, I am afraid, but it does
the trick within a few minutes and is maybe something you want to
share with your patient.

[Shannon Nelson]

And Rochelle, another non-homeopathic ide in line with Matthias's
thinking, would be licorice capsules to support adrenal function, which
also supports blood sugar levels (very markedly, in my experience). If
she takes two capsules, three times a day, she should know by the next
day whether it's going to help her. I'd keep up the ginger, too, and
also have her find a protein supplement that agrees with her.
Shannon

[Rosemary C Hyde, Ph.D.]

Hi, Rochelle. For what it's worth, there are only two remedies complementary to Sepia that are in the rubric nausea in pregnancy and also are ameliorated in the evening: Carcinosin and Pulsatilla. Might one of those work? They're not in the rubric STOMACH-NAUSEA odors, but they're both in NOSE-ODORS imaginary and real. Pulsatilla (but not Carc) is also in a couple of "Sensitive to Odor" rubrics. Might be worth a try?

Thanks to others for some of the non-homeopathic suggestions, such as licorice and the general need to raise blood sugar, which I'll keep filed away for future use when needed. I've found that some women's nausea during pregnancy is devilishly difficult to figure out homoepathically, so all suggestions are helpful. In the "blood sugar" area, I've often found that canned apricots and/or apricot nectar are very helpful. They're very soothing to the stomach and do help calm nausea, from whatever cause.

Rosemary

[Shannon Nelson]

Just a PS--I would say *regulate* blood sugar rather than "raise" it!
Instability of the levels can be *just* as big a problem as
consistently low levels (and of course consistently high levels could
be even worse). But both licorice and adrenal support in general
should help to regulate the blood sugar levels nearer to normal.
Shannon

[Rochelle Marsden]

Thanks - yes I do have Yingling's manual. I find it helpful for problems during the birth

Rochelle

[Rochelle Marsden]

Thanks for that. I think I would prefer the Puls than Carc in pregnancy and I think it is more indicated.
I spoke to her today and although the Cocc 30 didn't make any real difference she does feel a bit better today after 1 Ipec 30 and being sick. She was going to try to have something to eat and see if she could keep it down. She has cut down to 5mg daily of the Seroxat and really doesn't think she needs them so will not take any tomorrow and 5 mg the next day and see how she does. On reading through the symptoms of Symphoricarpus with her I have ordered some today in 200 C as it sounds as if it might fit. Helios suggested Apomorphia in a 6C so I ordered some of that while I was at it!!

Thanks also to Chris , Matthias(hope your wife gets over it soon) and whoever suggested Liquorice.

Will keep you informed. (Not heard anything about the reflux baby today as yet)

Rochelle

[indu masoor]

Rochelle,
Nausea and vomiting is common symptom of pregnency.Generally it does not need any treatment and it sttles in few days .But sycotic constitutions it troubles very badly and needs hospitalisation and drips to avoid dehydration,
I generally prescribe Medorrhinum -30 on first day and 200 on second day in single doses.
and support with Rehydration programme.(not synthetic substutes) .Soft rice mixed with buttermilk and pinch of salt whose staple food is rice .Barley water with butter milk and salt ,fruit juices if they have desire for sour,Diet of her liking avoiding spicy and oily.I encourage to drink and eat even though there is vomiting by reasonig,even by vomiting some thing will be leftout which avoids dehydration
In one woman to prevent this problem I prescribed Medorrhinum 1M when they decided to have child(that is before conception as preventive ) ,Vomiting and nausea was at minimum
Ramachandra,
Hyderabad,INDIA

Rochelle Marsden wrote:
Rochelle Marsden wrote:I have a patient about 8 weeks pregnant - constitutionally Sepia - who has nausea and vomiting. We tried a Sepia 200 a couple of weeks ago and she felt a little better and then went and took another one hoping it would make her completely better and that was it she got worse again. We haven't managed to stop it yet!! we tried Colch 30 because she is < smells of any kind. She was hospitalised last week for a couple of days (didn't phone me ) as she had blood in her urine and given antibiotics and put on a drip to rehydrate her. Yesterday we tried 3 doses of Cocc-30 no change so today I have asked her to try Ipec -30 and I am going to order Symphoricarpus. She is still cutting down on the Seroxat and is now on 10mg one day and 5mg the next. She doesn't think she needs it anymore but one of the reasons she originally came to see me was depression - wanting to conceive and having withdrawal symptoms cutting down on this drug. She was
on 20 mg daily when she first saw me.

Anyone any other suggestions. We have tried the ginger, small meals etc. She can only keep food down in the evening.

Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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