Bipolar/schizoaffective dissorder

[Elizabeth Morgan]

Hello all,

I'm new to the list. I am looking for info on homeopathic approaches to
dealing with bipolar...(possibly schizoaffective disorder). I am presently
using vitamin/mineral/amino acids and fish oils.
Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

cheers,
elizabeth
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[Elizabeth Hull]

Hi,
I'm an Elizabeth also, very very new student. Also
doing the vitamin mineral fish oil amino acid thing,
would be interested in knowing what you are doing by
private e-mail in that line.
I have been reading voraciously on net for the last
two weeks and read somewhere (maybe in book, it's all
a blur) that when using homeopathic remedies for
something of this nature it is best to do with out the
vitamin/supplement route and see if they are needed???
The author went on to say that the human body can
become dependent on the supplements whereas the
homeopathic remedy may be able to take away the need
for a supplement. Clear as mud huh????????
My own personal unlearned opinion, do what works,
Pus
Sulp
Ignatia
come to mind first off.
By the way I am studying to be a LPN-rn and then
hopefully a Nurse practitioner. Just couldn't go the
wholly naturalistic or alternative route although it
will certainly be a part of my repetoire if not the
whole ball of wax. Translation, a job and clients
would be nice, we live in redneck USA.
Elizabeth Hull
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[Tanya Marquette]

Dear Elizabeth,

I can understand your confusion. Homeopathy actually is a very clear protocol with a very well defined philosophy and understanding about healing. The understanding is quite opposite that of allopathic functioning. As a "very, very new student," it has got to be confusing to be trying to learn both perspectives simultaneously. It is also too difficult to try and deal with a personal serious pathology by yourself. As in many professions, homeopaths always recommend having your case professionally taken by someone else--and this goes for people who have been in the field for many years. It's impossible to gain the detached and objective perspective needed.

I do not know where you live, but I am sure that you could hook up with a good homeopath. Many will do phone consultations.

The allopathic approach operates out of a contro and conquer mentality and that includes vitamin therapy as well. What Homeopathy tries to do is have the body make self-corrections that will be permanent and that will not require ongoing treatment. Inother words, it seeks cure instead of control.

In most cases, I find, energy based healing is far deeper and more profound than allopathy. In my area, I recommend a nutritionist who uses bio-feedback with her clients along with nutritional support. This, too, is an energy based protocol. She uses it for diagnosis and for treatment when appropriate. It can rebalance different functions of the body.

Getting your nurse practitioner's license will certainly offer you some mainstream stability and will probably hook you into the insurance payment for treatment path. But you may have a difficult time using homeopathy if the md's you work with are not supportive.

Just some things to think about. Hope it helps.

tanya

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

This subject has come up many times before.

The patient needs to be seen by an experienced homeopath and a full case
needs to be taken.

There are NO SHORT CUTS.

Soroush

[Shirley Reischman]

Check out http://www.healthy.net/content/Rbullman/ . It's the web site of
Judyth Reichenberg-Ullman, N.D., M.S.W., DHANP and her husband, Robert
Ullman, ND, DHANP. They are homeopaths, naturopaths and have a background
in psychology and psychiatry. They've written several books which include
homeopathic approaches to bipolar disorders and other psychiatric illnesses.

Shirley

Message: 9
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:38:26 -0800
From: Elizabeth Morgan
Subject: Bipolar/schizoaffective dissorder

Hello all,

I'm new to the list. I am looking for info on homeopathic approaches to
dealing with bipolar...(possibly schizoaffective disorder). I am presently
using vitamin/mineral/amino acids and fish oils.
Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

cheers,
elizabeth

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Briefly, how is this approach any different to approaching any other
complaint please??

Soroush

[Rosemary Hyde]

In my experience, often the considerations of remedies and supplements are
in different areas. For instance, it's known that cold water fish are an
important source of certain kinds of lipids important in the total spectrum
of human nutrition (flax seed -- not oil -- is another source of some of the
same elements. If one is not ingesting any important sources of these
elements in one's daily diet (e.g., 3-4 servings of cold water fish a week
or about a half cup of flax seed daily), then it makes sense to supplement,
because over a long time, the consequences of the dietary imbalance will
cause symptoms. On the other hand, if one IS consuming a totally balanced
diet (which, experts say would demand about 3500 calories a day to even be
possible -- too much for most women and many men with today's occupations),
then theoreticaly no supplements should be necessary. The question of
treating an illness is different, given that basic nutritional needs are
accounted for either with diet or supplements, and that's where homeopathy
comes into play. Hahnemann was very clear about the need first for adequate
diet, exercise, rest, discipline as a necessary prerequisite for treating
illness successfully, because faults in the basic regimen will constitute
"maintaining causes" for the illness to continue, regardless of treatment.
Often counseling patients about their nutritional needs goes hand in hand
with taking and managing their case.

I guess one could say that in the absence of a totally adequate diet in
every respect, one's body would indeed be "dependent" on supplements. It IS
dependent on some source of the nutrients its needs, in any case.

Rosemary Hyde

[Elizabeth Hull]

Dear Tanya,
Thanks for input, I know the alternative-homeopathic
combo is difficult if not impossible but seems the way
to go. I hope I can get a MD that is supportive,
having some in family and whining may help. Actually
I was told to take this course of action by family
members who are RNs and NPs. I hope to know more
after I talk to more local health practitioners.
I have consulted a homeopath and he reccomended
Lachesis 10 M. which is naturally not available
locally.
The main reason this direction started to intrigue me
is the positive reaction my father with Alzheimers had
to Ginko Bilboa (sp?) it did quite a bit more for him
than the aricept in my opinion. I know that's not a
homeopathic remedy but it certainly wasn't in the MDs
gameplan although he OKed it. If I had known about
homeopathy years ago when I started caretaking for my
parents maybe I could have actually helped more.
Thanks,
Elizabeth
Ps write me in private if ya like, I'm sure no one
else is interested in herbs etc. I would appreciate
hearing more about the energy based healing.

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[isali ben-jacob]

I have found a distinction in bi-polar cases. The common presentations are: very talkative; either remarkably active or exhausted; hi libido; likes being naked. The key distinction I have found is the window of expression of action vs fatigue. It seems to reflect the nightshade family: stromonium; belladonna; and hyosniger.

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