Dear Julian
At many points when Peter has asked, he has refused to go beyond what has
been advised already. He says it is his 'trade secret'.
I have asked him to safe guard it somewhere in case God Forbid something
happens to him and the knowledge is lost.
Rgds
Soroush
Message: 17
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:47:52 +0000
From: Julian Winston
Subject: Re: Peter Chappell's stuff
At 9:04 PM -0800 2/13/05, Rosemary C Hyde PhD wrote:
[snip the whole thing]
OK. I'll say it. I just do NOT get it at all.
I would love someone to explain to me HOW this AIDS remedy is made.
All I get is that Chappell has come up with a mathematical formula
(however that was done) and potentized it (however that was done).
I AM familiar with radionics, but everyone says this is NOT radionics.
So what is it?
How do you make the stuff? And if Chappell wishes to remain mum on
this it's fine with me-- but it just raises my level of disbelief one
more notch.
Would someone explain in good old common English what this is all
about? I'm tired of hearing "new age" lingo being tossed about. It
makes as much sense to me as mud.
JW
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PC remedies
Re: PC remedies
I personally believe we have enough rx in our materia medica to treat all known diseased states (so far), and I would stick my neck out to say we probably don't need any more. We just need to be truly excellent homeopaths to utilise them. This really is my last word on this.
Can I also ask that people stop sending me private emails about this subject, I have had enough!
Joy
Can I also ask that people stop sending me private emails about this subject, I have had enough!
Joy
Re: PC remedies
Two things get my goat here, slipped in amongst the intellectualism.
1) By saying that people don't understand and that when they do they will
realise that this is true homeopathy. Plenty of us DO understand and still
discard this as being non homeopathic.
2) Emphasising that certain diseased states are difficult to cure. There is
no logic in that. Homeopathy either works or it doesn't. When we fail in a
case it is because we are not expert enough at our job - not that homeopathy
fails.
By saying that certain diseased states are difficult to cure is like saying
Homeopathy needs to be revamped and this is the way to do it folks,
Hahnemann would have wanted it and then you re-write the Organon so that the
semantics fit. Homeopathy is failing and we need to advance it along this
way. Blah blah blah.
As I have said before I am really concerned about this subtle deconstruction
of classical Homeopathy that is perfectly alright as it stands now. We
already have hundreds of rx made directly from a disease description - the
description comes from the provings, the provings come from potentised rx,
the potentised rx come from material that will eventually describe the
disease. The almost perfect circle.
When you have words like 'conceptual' in the Organon (148) doesn't mean you
can change the meaning of it to suit.
Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
Andy wrote
((( I might not call it a different layer, but a different (dissimilar)
totality (when it is as such, which is not always the case (e.g. Eizayagas
lesional and fundamental layers covered by the same rx, or Banerji's
totality matches; or as your example, a complement to the typical
psychosomatic totality which was identifiable before the disease began--is
known). MS is approachable with the individual simillimum, and is curable
with it. CFS the same. But both diseases can also be very difficult to
treat with the individual simillimum. And there are many other diseases
untreatable or treatable unsatisfactorily (e.g. elephantiasis, ALS, etc
etc). When the Host VF has been overcome by the Miasmatic VF, the DISEASE,
as Hahnemann defines it in 148, sixth edition and that miasmatic VF cannot
be encompassed by a HOST plus DISEASE or DISEASE ONLY remedy totality, then
we fail to restore the client.
edited
The situations in
which these PC rx become especially useful are in cases with a complex or
dissimilar disease for which it is difficult to find a remedy totality (for
EITHER a "lesional" totality OR one which encompasses lesion and patient).
Or situations in which the disease pace is so fast that zigzagging is
unacceptable. Or a situation such as AIDS--a pandemic with millions of
sufferers, only a fraction of whom will have opportunity for individual
casetaking. Once the "back" of the miasmatic complex has been broken by the
PC group totality rx, then the constitution will come to some new
equilibrium as after any prescription, and individualized prescribing can
resume.
Best,
Andy
1) By saying that people don't understand and that when they do they will
realise that this is true homeopathy. Plenty of us DO understand and still
discard this as being non homeopathic.
2) Emphasising that certain diseased states are difficult to cure. There is
no logic in that. Homeopathy either works or it doesn't. When we fail in a
case it is because we are not expert enough at our job - not that homeopathy
fails.
By saying that certain diseased states are difficult to cure is like saying
Homeopathy needs to be revamped and this is the way to do it folks,
Hahnemann would have wanted it and then you re-write the Organon so that the
semantics fit. Homeopathy is failing and we need to advance it along this
way. Blah blah blah.
As I have said before I am really concerned about this subtle deconstruction
of classical Homeopathy that is perfectly alright as it stands now. We
already have hundreds of rx made directly from a disease description - the
description comes from the provings, the provings come from potentised rx,
the potentised rx come from material that will eventually describe the
disease. The almost perfect circle.
When you have words like 'conceptual' in the Organon (148) doesn't mean you
can change the meaning of it to suit.
Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
Andy wrote
((( I might not call it a different layer, but a different (dissimilar)
totality (when it is as such, which is not always the case (e.g. Eizayagas
lesional and fundamental layers covered by the same rx, or Banerji's
totality matches; or as your example, a complement to the typical
psychosomatic totality which was identifiable before the disease began--is
known). MS is approachable with the individual simillimum, and is curable
with it. CFS the same. But both diseases can also be very difficult to
treat with the individual simillimum. And there are many other diseases
untreatable or treatable unsatisfactorily (e.g. elephantiasis, ALS, etc
etc). When the Host VF has been overcome by the Miasmatic VF, the DISEASE,
as Hahnemann defines it in 148, sixth edition and that miasmatic VF cannot
be encompassed by a HOST plus DISEASE or DISEASE ONLY remedy totality, then
we fail to restore the client.
edited
The situations in
which these PC rx become especially useful are in cases with a complex or
dissimilar disease for which it is difficult to find a remedy totality (for
EITHER a "lesional" totality OR one which encompasses lesion and patient).
Or situations in which the disease pace is so fast that zigzagging is
unacceptable. Or a situation such as AIDS--a pandemic with millions of
sufferers, only a fraction of whom will have opportunity for individual
casetaking. Once the "back" of the miasmatic complex has been broken by the
PC group totality rx, then the constitution will come to some new
equilibrium as after any prescription, and individualized prescribing can
resume.
Best,
Andy
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Re: PC remedies
At 1:07 PM +0000 3/30/05, J Lucas wrote:
Gets all my animals too!!!
[snip]
Yes.
Absolutely! You are right on, Joy! Too much intellectualism. Wanking
with words.
Read the Organon. THAT is the definition of "Homeopathy". All else isn't.
JW
(still fighting the battle)
Gets all my animals too!!!
[snip]
Yes.
Absolutely! You are right on, Joy! Too much intellectualism. Wanking
with words.
Read the Organon. THAT is the definition of "Homeopathy". All else isn't.
JW
(still fighting the battle)
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Liz Hennel
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Re: PC remedies
At last! the voice of reason!
Julian - you have encapsulated my own feelings about this "new" method - I believe even Peter states that this is NOT a homeopathic method.
All this bitching apears to have lost sight of what homeopathy IS - and I am deeply disapointed that individuals have chosen to highlight your own predicament as justification for promoting a highly dubious method.
Regards.
Liz
Julian Winston wrote:
At 1:07 PM +0000 3/30/05, J Lucas wrote:
Gets all my animals too!!!
[snip]
Yes.
Absolutely! You are right on, Joy! Too much intellectualism. Wanking
with words.
Read the Organon. THAT is the definition of "Homeopathy". All else isn't.
JW
(still fighting the battle)
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Julian - you have encapsulated my own feelings about this "new" method - I believe even Peter states that this is NOT a homeopathic method.
All this bitching apears to have lost sight of what homeopathy IS - and I am deeply disapointed that individuals have chosen to highlight your own predicament as justification for promoting a highly dubious method.
Regards.
Liz
Julian Winston wrote:
At 1:07 PM +0000 3/30/05, J Lucas wrote:
Gets all my animals too!!!
[snip]
Yes.
Absolutely! You are right on, Joy! Too much intellectualism. Wanking
with words.
Read the Organon. THAT is the definition of "Homeopathy". All else isn't.
JW
(still fighting the battle)
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Re: PC remedies
Agreed
Thanks Joy and Julian for articulating this so well
Sheri
At 11:33 PM 3/30/2005 -0800, you wrote:
believe even Peter states that this is NOT a homeopathic method.
am deeply disapointed that individuals have chosen to highlight your own
predicament as justification for promoting a highly dubious method.
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Thanks Joy and Julian for articulating this so well
Sheri
At 11:33 PM 3/30/2005 -0800, you wrote:
believe even Peter states that this is NOT a homeopathic method.
am deeply disapointed that individuals have chosen to highlight your own
predicament as justification for promoting a highly dubious method.
and educational benefit of its members. It makes no representations
regarding the individual suitability of the information contained in any
document read or advice or recommendation offered which appears on this
website and/or email postings for any purpose. The entire risk arising out
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caused.
subject of 'Digest' to ashahrdar@yahoo.com to receive a single daily digest.
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