PC ME - my first report

[J Lucas]

Over the years I have treated many cases of ME - all of them cured (2 are
presently ongoing). All received different simillimums.

We do not know what is in the PC ME remedy - if we did you would be able to
realise which rx was curing your client and that previously you had not
given her the correct rx. Simple enough.

We all need to be better homeopaths and all we need is classical
Hahnemannian homeopathy.

Joy

http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
Soroush wrote
Dear Peter

This is the report of my patient's reaction to your PC ME remedy.

The patient (already discussed briefly on Minutus) is a young lady about 16
now - came to me in Autumn 2003 with the diagnosis of ME and Headaches and
very poor sleep - was on Prozac.

Nat-m helped a little and she gradually came off Prozac but symptoms of
tiredness and weakness persisted and did not really respond to any of the
indicated remedies I came up with. Headaches also eventually improved from
constant to a few episodes in a week. Sleep was also improved but nothing to
write home about.

When I told the patient and her mum about the PC remedies, both wanted to
give it a try.

2 weeks ago, I gave her 1 dose of PC ME (1 pill in a dropper bottle, 1 drop
in table spoon of water - hold in mouth for 5 secs)

Immediately the next day she was FLOORED. WEAKNESS, achy joints and
muscles. Just wanted to curl up and rest and not move. (We discussed this at
your class if you remember).

Since then I have monitored the case and there has been a steady
improvement.

Tonight I spoke with her and she now sleeps for 10-12 hours with good
quality of sleep. (making up for lost sleep?)

Some weakness is still there and she gets tired if she has to carry anything
heavy and muscles ache. However she said I feel good.

I spoke to Mum as well and she said " She is more of herself, Happier,
Brighter, seems to have more energy and has a Spring in her step." [None of
my other prescriptions had caused such a reaction or response.]
I think this is a fantastic result so far. It will be interesting to see how
long she will go on the only dose she has had and what will happen if she
has to take another dose.

I shall keep you posted with developments.

With my thanks and regards
Soroush

[Julian Winston]

At 7:06 PM +0000 2/21/05, J Lucas wrote:

After being away, coming back to over 200 e-mails, and then reading
them, I am still muddled about all this.
If Soroush has success with the remedy-- great. If the patient is
better-- great.
The bottom line is still: IS IT HOMEOPATHY?
There are many therapies that are not "homeopathic" that are not only
useable, but helpful. Many people use them and have successes.

But... in this case, the therapy does NOT fulfill the basic
requirements of homeopathy-- other than its administration.
There is no problem with this.
But don't CALL IT HOMEOPATHY!!!

Joy summed it up well a few days ago. Read the Organon. Follow the directions.

JW

[Shannon Nelson]

It sounds to me as tho it is (?) still a case of like treating like,
but the manner of "recording" or achieving that likeness are different
from what we're accustomed to--via Fourier transform (egads!!) and
electronics, rather than dilute/succuss.

But since we've discussed in the past that e.g. applying heat to a burn
is homeopathy, and also that crude substances may be used
homeopathically, it would seem that the process of dilute/succuss is
not essential to the process, but simply one of our tools.

Peter is (I gather) using a different *means* of achieving similarity;
but if it *is* based on similarity--and if provings of his prepared
remedies bear this out--then I don't see a problem with calling it
homeopathy.
??
Shannon

[Julian Winston]

At 9:25 PM -0600 2/21/05, Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:

[snip]
IF the proving is done, and bears out some kind of symptomology-- then OK.
But until then... NOT Homeopathy. Simple as that.

JW

[J Lucas]

For those of you who don't know what a dander is, = temper. There are other
meanings and I hope that Simon doesn't mean any of those

But comedy aside (and I have tried, honestly), I have found these recent
nuances to be depressing and I obviously feel passionate about the situation
because if I didn't I wouldn't bother, I am far too busy to bother and I am
struggling to keep that passion going. It is as simple as that. I feel that
this one is going to go on and on.

I always felt I had initiated considerably, in the past anyway and will try
to find more time to do so in the present. But what it comes down to is
preserving that which I feel strongly about but I am not going to bash my
head against the wall, and I don't wish to witness this current trend. There
is little I can do about it on a grand scale so I would rather shut my eyes
and ears, ostrich like.

Best wishes, Joy

http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
Simon wrote:

I wonder how many posts there would be if one were to go back over the
last month or so, that related EXCLUSIVELY to classical homeopathy?

It seems to me that most respondents enjoy the comparison of differing
forms of practice, using them as foils against which to parry, not
least of all you Joy, don't you secretly enjoy getting your dander up?

Otherwise why not initiate more posts purely on classical homeopathy
yourself and reverse the trend?

Perhaps you have no questions at all on classical homeopathy and so can
only enjoy the list in teacher mode, in which case surely you need
students, those of a less experienced or classical bent than yourself
without whom there'd be no discussion, so why the complaint?

C'mon, you know you love this list, and I for one would miss your posts!
Simon

[Simon King LCPH MARH]

That's *pecker* not dander! LOL!

Then you must feel a little like I do about the lack of organisation
by the organisations regeistering homeopaths re:marketing etc

passion is good, but others have their passion too. It doesn't have to
deplete yours

Simon

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