PC's and question for Didi and other PC users

[Ellen Madono]

Hi,

I have tried to follow this thread. Sometimes with difficulty. I have some
questions which may be repeats. If so, I'm sorry. It's a long complex
thread.

It's odd to me that the reverse engineering works with specificity to
"races" (questionable concept) and geography. Does it work where there has
been excess dosing with chemicals such as antibiotics or steroids etc?
Didi, in the shanty towns aren't you also seeing self prescription of
blackmarket antibiotics etc? In that case, is it just a matter of tuning in
to that specific cesspool? Nosodes don't work with such specificity, as far
as I have heard. Why would these engineered remedies be so specific?

Also, are people like Didi in Kenya using them in combination with classical
homeopathy and her own herbal etc improvizations? Does she differentiate
them from classical homeopathy in terms of the application and clinical
results?
Blessings,
Ellen

[peter chappell]

Ellen Madono wrote:

Hi,

I have tried to follow this thread. Sometimes with difficulty. I have some
questions which may be repeats. If so, I'm sorry. It's a long complex
thread.

It's odd to me that the reverse engineering works with specificity to
"races" NOT TRUE ITS NOT AT ALL RACE RELATED (questionable concept I AGREE) and geography. NOT TRUE Does it work where there has
been excess dosing with chemicals such as antibiotics or steroids etc?NOT SO COMMON IN AFRICA SO I DONT KNOW WITH RESPECT TO AIDS
Didi, in the shanty towns aren't you also seeing self prescription of
blackmarket antibiotics etc? In that case, is it just a matter of tuning in
to that specific cesspool? Nosodes don't work with such specificity, as far
as I have heard. Why would these engineered remedies be so specific?

Also, are people like Didi in Kenya using them in combination with classical
homeopathy and her own herbal etc improvizations? Does she differentiate
them from classical homeopathy in terms of the application and clinical
results?

THIS RACE THING AROSE I PRESUME BECAUSE I SAID MY AIDS REMEDY DID NOT WORK ON WHITE PEOPLE
THIS WAS SHORTHAND FOR SAYING ON GAY GUYS AND EX DRUG ADDICTS ETC WHO ARE THE COMMON AIDS PATIENTS IN UK AS THEY HAVE A MUCH MORE COMPLEX SITUATION REQUIRING MUCH MORE COMPLEX PRESCRIBING AND INVOLVING MANY MORE DISEASES HEP FOR EX AND MANY MORE COMPLICATING FACTORS

THERE ARE LOTS OF RESULTS WHERE NOTHING ELSE BUT PC1 WAS USED IN AFRICA
OBVIOUSLY IF YOU COMBINE TREATMENTS YOU MAY GET BETTER RESULTS BUT YOU MAY NOT BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT DID WHAT
KIND REGARDS
PETER
Blessings,
Ellen
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[Shannon Nelson]

So it would (?) work for, e.g., a European or American who had been
infected by a partner, but who did not him/herself live that lifestyle,
or for a child born with AIDS?
Shannon

[peter chappell]

Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:

So it would (?) work for, e.g., a European or American who had been
infected by a partner, but who did not him/herself live that lifestyle,
or for a child born with AIDS?

WELL YES BUT I STILL HAVE RESERVATIONS AS YOU CANT PUT TIGHT BOUNDARIES AROUND PEOPLE

PARTNERS and children ARE STILL LIKELY TO GET COFACTORS AND OTHER MICRO CONTAMINATIONS THAT AFFECT THEM
SPERM< AMBIOTIC FLUID< MOTHERS MILK KISSING ALL PASS ON MICROORGANISMS

eg for CFS but read AIDS

and publications indicate that in addition to mycoplasmal infections, CFS/ME and FMS patients have other chronic infections caused by other intracellular bacteria and viruses. For example, patients with Lyme Disease, caused by intracellular Borrelia infections, have been diagnosed with CFS/ME. Also, CFS/ME and FMS patients can have intracellular Chlamydia species infections. These patients can also have infections by other bacteria that enter their bodies through 'leaky gut' problems. Chronically ill patients often have inflammatory bowel syndrome and other gut problems, and this can allow pathogenic bacteria to enter their systems.

Bye

Peter
Shannon
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[Shannon Nelson]

Interesting!
I know that PC1 is being used by some US/European homeopaths,presumably
on pts with these added factors (gay lifestyle and/or drugs), and
there have been some promising results (I don't have more info than
that). Have *you* been given reports on those results, and do you have
any comments about what part PC1 might play in this arena, or do you
feel that AIDS pts from these circumstances are at present better
treated on a "presenting picture" basis, more classically?
Shannon

[Didi Ananda Ruchira]

At 20-02-2005 Sunday, Shannon wrote:

Ellen wrote
Hi Shannon, Ellen and all,

ALF is. I believe we have, over the last 5 1/2 years, treated well over 2000 HIV+ patients.

Sorry, I'm only now been reading after two weeks on the road. It's really too much to read. Then I saw a thread directed to me. If there is a email earlier than Ellen's on this thread I didn't find it. So I'm just jumping in without knowing all that's being discussed. If I'm going over ground discussed forgive me.

"Epidemically speaking": Clients seem to circle around the big polychrests: Phos, Rhus t, Ars, Merc, Nat m., Puls (for men & women both). I think Phos tops the list for "most popular". No special surprises about these "super 6".

This is not to say that we don't take a case or give other big or small rx if they present themselves. However, some pt's pictures are so common we can prescribe with confidence after a few questons.

Over the years we ran through a number of **Eureka-This-Is-It! Discoveries**, including Mur-ac, Helon, and a few obscure others. None of them did the job of a universal "epidemic". Except-

As I've mentioned before on this list we found HYDROGEN to be very effective as an "epidemic" Rx. I wish others would expore it too. I was using it regularly before "switching over" to PC1. We put 1 pill of Hydrg. LM1 into a 20 ml dropper and pts took 2 drops twice a day. There was a near-universal improvement excepting a near-universal aggravation of "scratchy, sore throat". Reducing the dose generally got rid of the throat problem.

Today, our usual methodology here in Kenya combines homeopathic, herbal tinctures, and "aggressive naturopathic/nutritional therapy" .

Most of our homeopaths prescribe single rx at a time, but no one is rigid on this point. We may prescribe multiple rx if he/she sees it that way.

Remember, too, the context of Africa where our therapy may be the ONLY nutrition & support, etc a patient gets. In richer countries you expect the patient to be eating well & carefully, taking vitamins or other supplements, etc.

Usually, once we find a patient is regaining their stamina & general health (on the above combi), we switch them over to PC1+tincture +N.therapy, where they usually continue improving. Sometimes, if there is no virulent pathologies, we may put them directly on PC1 along with some good "immune boosting" herbal tincture.

For patients who opt for it, we offer intravenous hydrogen peroxide treatment which also is very effective. I highly recommend it with side-by-side homeopathic follow through.

The "immune boosting" herbals we use (singly, not together) are:
Neem 2x
Hypoxis 2x (also known as "african potato" - a S. African herb found effective in reducing HIV). this product is now being produced & marketed by Abha Light. You can order it!! see our website from next week!

We've had experience with both these tinctures- used exclusively they, too, have returned a number of patients to health. Not known if they, exclusively, returns HIV-undetectable results.

Exclusive use of naturopathic therapy also has returned a number of patients to health. Not known if it, exclusively, returns HIV-undetectable results.

We've had a small number of cases (those who could afford the tests) return back to us reporting "hiv undetectible" soon after finishing the PC1.

We hope to use some of our funding in 2005 to test a larger group of patients and get "real statistics".

Sorry folks, the eternal question of "how do you know what is working if you are combining everything?" is not a urgent issue with us.

Over the years we've tried every method & approach - single dose, multiple dose, split dose, plussing dose, high potencies, low potencies, Bach, tissue, "classical" style, constitutional style, poly-pharmacy style, clinical therapeutics style, "mix and match" style, "throw everything in the kit at them" style, "pendulum'ing" style, and any other knowledge-contributions our visiting volunteers brought with them.

[by the way, THANK YOU Volunteers for all you've contributed to ALF]

We now have a some sense born from experience about what is and isn't working.

Conclusion:
~~ Africa we can't ignore the fact that thousands upon thousands are affected and waiting for treatment. Quicker, timely mass treatment is urgent.

~~That homeopathy can rise to the need of shouldering this great task.

~~So the need for discovering an "epidemic" remedy is of the essence. We should not hold back merely on "points of order". Try it. (PC1) If it works, use it.

~~We found PC1 works best when the patient has been cleared as far as possible of other obstructive stuff eg, virulent infections, over-dosing of drugs, suppressed diseases, etc.

~~We found that PC1 may cause adverse reactions (aggravations? but how to know without a clear proving) - therefore we prefer to clear the way first, so to speak, and supervise the first month closely.

~~We are mostly convinced that it is PC1 that is doing the final job of restoring health- from trial and observation. That "classical", constitutional or therapeutic treatment eventually "fell down" - that is
the patient was better, then worse, then again treated for the next round of infections then better then worse again etc. In other words no real permanancy to their condition.

~~There are no test results yet to show whether PC1 is a permanent cure or whether HIV still remains in the system to grow again. It appears, however to restore health for a long stretch of time. We do not see back our patients because they have regained their health.

~~Nevertheless, polychests (as mentioned above) + PC1 go a long way towards enabling mass treatment of the AIDS pandemic.

~~So. Ultimately we found, in Kenya, 30-200's prescriptions combined with low-potency tinctures and naturopathic therapy, later followed by PC1 to be the cheapest, **rapid'est, gentlest and permanent'est restoration of health**.
More questions:
Ellen wrote:

I would say "cultural-economic" would be more accurate.
Even in general (non-hiv) practice we find great cultural-economic gaps. We have found here that mentals-physicals pyramid of hierarchy is somewhat reversed here. Physicals takes much more precedence than mentals. I say this not racially, but economically.

You see, here (as anywhere there's poverty) physical SURVIVAL takes precedence. Where you find your food for TODAY (its not even about tomorrow) is first in so many people's lives. Whether or not you'll be robbed, raped, attacked is a daily issue. Whether you have a place to sleep is a daily issue. Whether the rains will come in time for your year's crop of food is an issue.

In developed countries where the population is more educated, more "white collar" and has money for higher education, luxury items, etc. the issues come more into the psychic sphere- who's snatching my promotion? which secr'y is gossiping about me? how can I sell more shoes? who has offered a better idea? what did the maid say about my cooking?

Even "blue collar" (labour) is more and more pushing buttons in a factory or driving a tractor (as opposed to pulling the plow yourself).

That's why we find it relatively easy to prescribe on the physicals here with much less emphasis on the psychic world of the patient. Also, patients respond quickly to the rx and in low-medium potencies.
if "it" is PC1, I will say it is more difficult with drugging, but not impossible. same as other hom rx.
not necessarily blackmarket. but yes, a lot of self-prescribing, and botched prescribing by allopaths too. particularly of malaria & typhoid drugs.
don't really understand your question. Tuning PC1? or hom antidoting the effects of drugging? specific as what and when?

Taking a guess at the meaning of your question- when we take a case and see a clear thread of over-drugging, we neutralise it "classically" with single remedies such as nux, sulph, china sulph or whatever comes up in the patient's casetaking.
Sincerely,
Didi Ananda Ruchira
Director, Abha Light
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tel: +254 20 787310 / cell: 0733-895466

[Ellen Madono]

Dear Didi,
Ah a breath of fresh air. Thank-you so much for your very grounded assessment of PC1. I am getting the picture. No doubt, complex situations require complex responses.
Blessings,
Ellen

[J Lucas]

As I understand it for HIV and AIDS to take hold there has to be, apart from
the obvious susceptibility, considerable damage to mucous membranes. This
suggests a syphilitic tendency and/or a deep suppression of syphilis with
antibiotics etc. Interestingly Syphilis was heavily suppressed during the
second world war and maybe this is one reason why the following generations
have showed an explosive susceptibility to HIV and AIDS.

I would be wanting to study many of the syphilitic rx such as Ars iod; Aurum
iod; Ceanothus; Hura; the Euphorbias; Kali iod; Ledum; Osmium; Selenium.

For what its worth. Best wishes, Joy

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[peter chappell]

>>people in Africa dont get much access to antibiotics
its more malnutrution and unguarded sex
theres no susceptability issue of note, if you have sex with the infected person, you usually get it.
thats why tens of millions have died
bye
peter

J Lucas wrote:

As I understand it for HIV and AIDS to take hold there has to be, apart from
the obvious susceptibility, considerable damage to mucous membranes. This
suggests a syphilitic tendency and/or a deep suppression of syphilis with
antibiotics etc. Interestingly Syphilis was heavily suppressed during the
second world war and maybe this is one reason why the following generations
have showed an explosive susceptibility to HIV and AIDS.

I would be wanting to study many of the syphilitic rx such as Ars iod; Aurum
iod; Ceanothus; Hura; the Euphorbias; Kali iod; Ledum; Osmium; Selenium.

For what its worth. Best wishes, Joy

http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com

[Sheri Nakken]

Haven't gotten involved in this whole conversation ........
But again, there is NO proof HIV causes AIDS or causes anything.
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