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Jean Doherty
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Hirsuitism

Post by Jean Doherty »

For what its worth, never used it here ,an old lady who knew Margaret
Blackie amd whose Father a lay homeopath told me that Sycotic Co 1M a
real money spinner in this condition. Jean


Jean Doherty
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Re: Hirsuitism

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Would like to add to earlier letter that Sycotic Co is one of the
bowel nosodes. I do not advise using it unless it otherwise fits the
picture. Hamish Boyd has a write up . As hirsuitism can be due to
polycystic ovaries it may be relevant.
BY John Paterson M. B., Ch. B., D. P. H. (Camb.), F. F. Hom.
Presented by Médi-T.

SYCOTIC CO. (Paterson)

This organism is not of bacillary form but is a non-lactose fermenting
coccus found in the intestinal tract. The details of this organism and
the manner in which it was identified) is to be found in the original
work published in the British Homœopathic Journal of April, 1933.

The keynote for the nosode Sycotic Co. (Paterson) is "irritability" and
this has special reference to mucous and synovial membrane.

Mentals. Nervous irritability ; tempery (cf. Lycopodium) ; fear of dark
; of being left alone ; twitching of facial muscles, blinking of eyelids.

Head. Irritation of meninges, sub-acute or chronic ; headache from
infection of sinuses ; persistent headache-particularly in a child-which
may be the prodromal sign of a tubercular meningitis (cf. Hellebore).
Sweating of head at night, profuse.

Digestive System. Chronic irritation of the whole alimentary tract ;
catarrhal conditions ; acute or chronic gastroenteritis in the child ;
loose offensive stool, excoriating (cf. Medorrhinum) ; urgent call to
stool as soon as rising out of bed ; constipation unusual ; diarrhœa
common ; nausea or sickness after eating eggs (Cf. Ferrum met.).

Respiratory. Acute, sub-acute, chronic bronchial catarrh ; catarrh of
mucous membranes of nose, throat (enlarged tonsils and adenoids in
child). Irritable cough at night, 2 a. m.

I regard Sycotic co. (Paterson) as a pre-tubercular remedy.

Circulation. Anæmia and hydræmia, usually in the adult.

(The Sycotic patient is always anæmic looking, never carries much colour
in the face.)

Neuro-muscular System. General rheumatic fibrositis, aggravated from
dampness, alter a period of rest (Cf. Rhus tox.). Feet painful when
walking, as if walking on loose cobble stones, pain in the me tarsal
bones, fidgety feet at night in bed.

Skin. Sallow complexion, oily skill) vesicular or varicellar type of
eruption on face or body : (After administration of Sycotic Co.
(Paterson) to children, a rash varicellar in type, resembling, and often
mistaken for chicken-pox may appear.) Warts on mucocutaneous surfaces.

Genito-urinary System. Sycotic Co. (Paterson) has marked action of the
whole of the genito-urinary tract causing irritation of mucous membranes
from the kidney to the urethral tract ; albuminuria ; pyelitis ;
cystitis ; urethritis ; vulvo-vaginitis ; balanitis.

Female. Pain in left ovary at menstrual period ; tic ovaries ; tubal
infection (tubercular or gonococcal) ; profuse leucorrhœa.

It will be evident that this coccal organism of the intestinal tract is
related morphologically and clinically to the Gonococcus. Hahnemann
related what he called "The Sycotic Miasm" to the disease, Gonorrhœa,
but this disease is only one form of catarrhal infection of the mucous
membrane of the urinary tract. There are many other non-gonorrhœal
organisms associated with the symptom picture of "catarrh" and I suggest
that the miasm "Sycosis" may be considered synonymous with "Catarrh".
Gonorrhœa is an infection of mucous membrane (i. e. it is a sycotic
manifestation) but catarrhal manifestations (Sycotic) are not all due to
gonorrhœal infection.

These are the nosodes prepared from the non-lactose fermenting organisms
of the bowel which are most generally called for in practice, but there
are two other members which are found occasionally in the stool and
which are not well proved and seldom used.
Copyright © Médi-T 2002
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Dale Moss
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Re: Hirsuitism

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I have a female patient in her early 20s with PCOS (polycystic ovaries), amenorrhea, and hirsuitism. Tests show her thyroid and testosterone levels normal, although her DHEA is a bit high.
I saw her some months back, at which time I gave Sepia 1M. Very clear picture. Her period has since come back (the first time it has not been induced with hormones, which create problems for her), and her mental state has greatly improved. I won't go into details, not having permission, but she let out a lot of justifiable anger.
Her mom is thrilled at the changes in her daughter, as is the young woman. Except for the hirsuitism, which actually aggravated a bit under the Sepia. I can tell her it will get better over time, but this is something that really, really concerns her. She basically plans her day according to whether she'll have to shave once or twice -- and not just her face.
I don't want to interfere with the Sepia, but I was wondering if there might be anything she could use that would help her regain her feminity. Anyone have experience with low potencies of Oleum-jecoris-aselli or any other remedy that might help? Is there anything non-homeopathic, non-hormonal that might be useful?
Peace,
Dale


Rochelle Marsden
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Re: Hirsuitism

Post by Rochelle Marsden »

I have to admit that I have had no success with hirsutism with PCOS homeopathically. The only I think does help in some cases is a PCOS diet which is similar to an Atkins one
Rochelle

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Subject: [Minutus] Hirsuitism
I have a female patient in her early 20s with PCOS (polycystic ovaries), amenorrhea, and hirsuitism. Tests show her thyroid and testosterone levels normal, although her DHEA is a bit high.
I saw her some months back, at which time I gave Sepia 1M. Very clear picture. Her period has since come back (the first time it has not been induced with hormones, which create problems for her), and her mental state has greatly improved. I won't go into details, not having permission, but she let out a lot of justifiable anger.
Her mom is thrilled at the changes in her daughter, as is the young woman. Except for the hirsuitism, which actually aggravated a bit under the Sepia. I can tell her it will get better over time, but this is something that really, really concerns her. She basically plans her day according to whether she'll have to shave once or twice -- and not just her face.
I don't want to interfere with the Sepia, but I was wondering if there might be anything she could use that would help her regain her feminity. Anyone have experience with low potencies of Oleum-jecoris-aselli or any other remedy that might help? Is there anything non-homeopathic, non-hormonal that might be useful?
Peace,

Dale


Hennie Duits
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Re: Hirsuitism

Post by Hennie Duits »

Maybe you could consider Bach or other flower essences?

Hennie

'DALE MOSS' dale.moss@verizon.net [minutus] schreef op 27-7-2014 0:36:


Jean Doherty
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Re: Hirsuitism

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I once had an elderly lady whose father and self were greatly into Homeopathy and who knew Marjorie Blackie at one time tell me that Sycotic Co 1M was a remedy for hirsuitism.
I would think that one must find other keynotes.
Complete Rep FACE; HAIR; lip, upper, in women (12) : calc., cortico., hydrog., med., nat-m., ol-j., psor., sep., sulph., syc-co., thuj., thyr.
FEMALE; TUMORS; cysts (18) : 2apis, 2aur., 2graph., 2kali-br., 2sabin., 2sil., bar-c., calc., carbn-s., carc., coc-c., hep., kali-c., lyc., nit-ac., rhod., sep., sulph.
Very interested as watching a pubescent girl at the moment but not wishing to intervene, Jean


healthinfo6
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Re: Hirsuitism

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DHEA converts to testosterone and estrogen and made in adrenal glands, gonads, brain
Chrysin from passion flower, an aromatase inhibitor is used by body builders to inhibit the conversion to estrogen while enhancing testosterone but more recent studies say may not work that well but may be a COX2 inhibitor and good for inflammation.
She seems to need the opposite to prevent her high DHEA from converting to testosterone.
Testosterone TOTAL "normal" levels range from 400-800,
Need to measure FREE testosterone, which is what is actually available for use.
The blood test panel includes both.
Sex hormone-binding globulin or SHBG needs to be measured as it controls estrogen and free/total testosterone
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/may ... tus_01.htm
She could be anywhere between HI normal to LOW normal TOTAL testosterone
Then need to know her FREE testosterone.
A general MD isn't usually knowledgeable on sex hormone interaction/management and just looks if test results say HI or LOW out of range. Needs an endocrinologist or other hormone specialist for better interpretation.
The DHEA-sulfate test is often done in women who have male body characteristics (virilism) or excessive hair growth (hirsutism). It is also done in children who are maturing too early High DHEA is associated with PCOS.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency ... 003717.htm
DHEA is the only steroid hormone sold OTC in health food and drug stores from 1mg to 50mg high potency and added to some supplements.
It may be FDA regulated in the future When I had adrenal fatigue, I took DHEA upto 25mg but now can't, don't feel well from it and my DHEA levels are normal.
I guess she's not taking any supplemental DHEA?
DHEA is a steroid hormone.. High doses may cause aggressiveness, irritability, trouble sleeping, and
the growth of body or facial hair on women http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehydroepiandrosterone
Didn't know about high DHEA, more common as deficiency but seems it may be contributing to her hirsuitism
PCOS is associated with insulin resistance which is why Atkins may be a diet for her as Rochelle mentions.
Very interesting, Vitamin K1 is mentioned as helping PCOS and insulin resistance.
This likely why I feel SO good after taking K2 as I wrote here other day. .
Glad you brought this up as I'll up the K2 more often and try double doses.
Insulin resistance now portends diabetes in her 40 especially if in her family history.
She should have fasting blood insulin levels done to see how high her insulin is.

Metformin, the #1 diabetes drug, derived from galegine, an alkaloid from French Lilac aka Goat's Rue
is being used for anti-aging and PCOS as it reduces insulin resistance.
The herbal Galega officinalis which some use for diabetes is available.
I've been taking metformin since 2004 when first became diabetic and take up to the max amount 2550mg/day.
Otherwise I have little energy.. I've tired stopping it but can't yet.
During homeopathic treatment, at times, I can reduce doses, now more recently on Lachesis which seems to be helping with the diabetes stuff along with allowing me to reduce Atenolol for high blood pressure and high heart rate.
Possibly Lachesis has adrenal action and reduces norepinephrine, another adrenal hormone, which I feel causes my tachycardia.
Then Lach may affect cortisol and DHEA which are also adrenal produced.
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid= ... resistance
Susan


bored_chick
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Re: Hirsuitism

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how many remedies are there for lack femininity? can someone have pcos with all other symptoms but no ovarian cysts?


Dale Moss
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Re: Hirsuitism

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Thanks, Rochelle, but this woman is vegetarian. Going on a diet like Atkins would create other problems for her.
Peace,
Dale


Dale Moss
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Re: Hirsuitism

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Interesting. Thank you, Jean.
Peace,
Dale


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